i have no problem with your views and I tend to agree. The whole sexist attitude comes from unmature people who have nothing better to do than act a total *BLEEP*. I don't think Sexism is a big problem we face today like you said. I think we've been getting more accustomed to women tackling a "mans" job today than we were back then. Women have been given better roles in society and they really do make great impacts. Like Hillary Clinton. I think the states rights prohibit certain things that maybe sexist. Then the church does that too. Some things are ok for a man to do but not a women. Especially inthose freaky religions that allow polygamy and stuff.

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There are a lot of women who didnt have a say in regards to the feminist movement cause they werent even born. Also there are women like myself who secretly would love to be a happy housewife but that view is looked down by men and women alike. "Or you're JUST a homemaker?" could almost here them dripping with discust. "Why not use your brain and do something important." So I went out into the working world. Homemakers or full time parents wish to be valued and respected as highly as a man who puts in 40 hours a day at work outside the home! Many women pay day care workers to take care of their own children. These Professionals get paid to do what women get looked down upon for doing. Raising children. How ridiclous is that?

I have worked hard outside the home and it bothered me during my dating life that some men said they believed in sharing responsibilities early on in the relationship but down the road they expected me to wait hand and foot on them. I would have much rathered them say. Im old fashioned I was raised not to do this task or cook dinner, that way I would know what role I was expected to play in the relationship.
I wonder why some men pretend to be all for equal rights but when its all said and done they are nothing but frauds. I am flexible. Most women are flexible and expected to be so otherwise they are lables bit**es. I had this problem with a couple men in the past and they acted like spoiled brats when I said if you say you are going to share in the duties share in them not just in the beginning of the relationship and later treat me like an unpaid field hand.

Im in a great longterm relationship and my guy said something to me that made me smile. He said he wish he made enough money that I could stay home, raise the children and not have to worry about money ever again. Some may say that is sexist I dont. I believe this is how things were meant to be. I also know that many women feel this way and they are in a tug of war with their emotions especially when they have to return to work after having a child. We are told to suck it up and do whats got to be done. Deny our natural born need to nurture our children and make money. Most men do not make enough to support an entire family, nor women for that matter.

See I am independant. I have never lived with a man or had a man take care of me. I did everything on my own. Im not materialistic. I buy my own clothes, pay for my salon treatments, my rent my bills. If I see something that I like I buy it. I never waited on a man. My father skipped out on his responsibilites and seperated from my mother when I was one. I learned early. Men like to play but don't like to stay.(my experience) Something inside of me tells me that its wrong, that its not supposed to be that way. Why men seek out women and vice versa. Just to procreate? Then why do people fall in love. We do we want to share our lives with a significant other. Ive seen the learning channel. I learned biology and chemistry at school, sure we are drawn together but its more than just to make babies and more babies.

If you are familiar with the bible...Adam and Eve, Eve was formed from Adam as a help mate for him. Women have an important role. Why did Adam a helper?Why couldnt he do things on his own. Some may say cause men are dumb(joking, feminist rant.) I am not a feminist, bet you are not surprised. I dont believe that women are superior or that men are either. We, men and women have gifts that are meant to be shared with each other. I wish that men and women could respect each other more, their decisions, roles, choices and their right to go against majority dictates.

Is I sound somewhat confused. You know what I am? Sometimes I want to go this way other times I want to go another. Seems that I cant please anyone even myself at times. Its merely a reflection of todays society.

 

 

 

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I am also going to give Milk a compliment. This issue needs more honest opinions - both from men and women. I personally have always believed that its not just women that need to be emancipated but also men, but in a different way. Men need to realise that they need to work harder to promote eqaulity in thier relationships in order to be appriciated.

One thing is for sure, and I feel strongly about this.

Man or women, if you see somone being bullied or bothered then you should step up to the plate no matter who you are and intervene. Only in a world where people care about others and bother to correct inapropriate behavior can we get rid of this kind of thing.

word of warning - ask if the person is being bothered first before helping and being a hero.

to others: don't act tough or be afraid to ask for help, or say 'yes'when someone offers help.

ps. for the record (not that it should matter): M

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I come from a long line of assertive women .... right back to my great-great granny.... one of my ancestors was a female pirate.... truly!.... I've never expected not to have the same rights as men.... and I very rarely have found it to be an issue.... occasionally men can be a bit "threatened" and act accordingly, but most guys take you as they find you ..... if they are threatened, that's there problem, not mine....

But I'm not naive enough to believe that sexism isn't alive and well in the 21st Century. However, I'm optimistic that if the current and future generations try to bring up their children to believe that all people are created equal.... no matter their sex, color, creed etc , eventually society will reflect these changes, though it may take some time to achieve this Utopia .....

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I totally agree with you, everyone should be equal, it just won't happen though mainly because there are people from both genders, who will always abuse this, you've got the guys who only use women for sex, like some kind of object, and all that, or dont realise that the woman is in fact a person and has feelings and opinions, I sure you are all femiliar with it (for which I would now like to apologize, on behalf of all men). But you also have the women who abuse the system, like dont realise that equality works both ways, or when things dont you there way the cry sexism, for instance on the news a few weeks back a woman was sueing a company for £1m because she didn't get a job, and there's the just plain weired ones, like one time at college I held a door open for this girl ans she says 'I'm female not disabled' (which if you think about it is prejudiced towards disabled people), you see the thing is I hold the door open for everyone, I'ts the way I was brought up (with manners), any way I'm going to stop now and apology's if that is confusing I have no idea what I wrote, I just kind of go and see what happens, I am a big fan of the bible comment though (but thats a story for another more anti-religion post)

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lol....thanks for agreeing with me, but I didn't say everyone should be equal. There is no such thing as equality and no one wants equality, nor will it happen. If there was equality, people would stay the same. Our society wouldn't depress, but it wouldn't progress either... Equality is non-existant and will never happen.

What I (hopefully) said, was that people don't want equality but respect. To be equal is to be the same. Therefore, no one looks up to you, but no one looks down on you either. There has to be different levels in order for progression or success to occur. It is in human nature to always be better than someone else, so equality is always out of the question. It is the human quest to earn respect...to earn honor....to earn dignity. Without these beneficiaries, there would be no point in man to continue on if there was nothing in it for him.

All human strive to be better. My talk about women was that women are often the ones who are disrespected. I hate feminazis and people who say they want equality, because what they really want is something that makes them better than others. When people say they want equality, what they're really searching for is a boost up so that they can therefore achieve a higher platform than those who are treating them unequaly.

In other words, I suppose you could say that I'm saying women are malicious, vicious, self-centered brats who want everything to be at access for them, whether it be respect or money or love....

Anyways, point is, (on topic...) women want respect, not equality. I know it sounds like I'm speaking for them like I know exactly what they want, but fact of the matter is, girls/women are humans and humans have one thing in mind that makes them continue to reach goals and to go higher, and that is to gain the respect of their peers and any other human around them. So basically, humans are superficial freaks who ultimately just want power. Of course, there are those passive people who could care less, but they're not being addressed in this topic at this point.


Are you an old man? lol, sorry if I offended you. Would you feel better if I said the bible is composed of letters and whatnot written by travelling popes/priests/whatever who's mission in life was to become missionaries and convert everyone to their religion because if not they were going to be sent to hell?

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Hey! I'm in college ( not old to me ). Also, the way you're saying it, you're an Atheist.

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Oh really? you certainlty don't speak for the masses ..... the majority of women I know most definately expect equality..... not superiority, just equality thankyou very much ....

oh and, you're not imlying that there's anything wrong with being an atheist are you NovaTerrra, or have I just misunderstood your last post?

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The Bible specifically states in Galatians 3:28 that neither race or background or gender make you different, we are all one in Christ Jesus once we are born again. In 1 Samuel 16:7 it says that man looks on the outward appearance but God looks on the heart. If people like you would follow His will there would be no prostitution and putting others down like that for your own self-interest, it's because people rebel against God and live immorally that He did give the Old Testament Law.



It's because this world is so evil that God has appointed a day in which to judge it in which all not born of faith who have been changed so they have the love of God in their hearts will be cast out so they cannot ruin the new creation He will make.

If you would read the Bible you would learn of those specifically appointed by God to be even judges like Deborah and who even saved the nation of Israel like Esther.

One who was quite active with Paul in his missionary journeys was Priscilla. So often I hear people attacking the Bible without the slightest clue of what it says. If you did indeed read Genesis as you say you would notice God punished both Adam and Eve, he didn't single out either one but considered both responsible for their sin.

Society is like it is because of rebellion against God by people like you, and yes, like me, we are all guilty of death, the difference you do not realize with that last post of yours where you say Christianity is about missionaries trying to convert people so they won't go to Hell, is that going to Hell is not dependent on what you can do.

We are all going to Hell regardless unless we trust in Christ alone for our righteousness, if we are trusting in what we can do, good works, we will never find eternal life. God loves His children (born again believers) and expects them to serve Him out of love, not fear. Through Christ the punishment for sin was laid on Him, if we accept Him as Lord and Saviour, else we are still the enemies of God because of our rebellion against Him, and His wrath abides upon us.

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Heh...sorry anyways. No, I'm not atheist. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god or gods. That basically means that you are not Christian (or any of it's sects), Jewish, a...greek god believer(what's it called?) or any of that stuff. I never said that I didn't believe in <i>a</i> god, I just 'meant' I don't believe in the Christian God. Capice?


I wasn't talking about women in that post though. I may have mentioned it and gotten confused, but I was talking about humans in general. You may not realize it, but the women that you know want respect...I wasn't necessarily talking about superiority, having power over you? No no, don't mistake me. Respect comes in different forms. It's quite a flexible word if you ask me anyways. There is no such thing as equality, trust me. If everyone/thing was equal...well, I'm sure you can just imagine it. Nothing wrong with it, but never possible.

jzyehoshua, I would argue more with you on your Christianity, but this topic isn't about that. Besides, if it's because of "people like me" who 'rebel' against organized religions, then you can blame your popes from the past. Maybe your God should have been a bit brighter, allowing who to teach their 'interpretations' of 'God's' words, rather than letting anyone do it. It's not my fault that the Bible's words have become so twisted in the centuries late.

And I wasn't serious about that missionaries bit. I know they're trying to spread their religion to 'gather people to the good side' or whatever, but maybe the books and speaches that are put out have laid that impression on me, and because I cannot go back in time to actually see what happened....

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