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I don't know about this new version of Windows. Im placing money that for the first six months, security will be pretty slack. Then Microsoft will roll out the updates and "fix" everything. I was hearing about Vista sending information to other PC's using Vista. That kinda scares me, if you didnt know that that happened before, what is to stop a hacker using a keylogger to track the keys. They can just pretend its an increse in Packet Number. Though GUI looks very nice. I think that it is the Ellegence of Linux without the power!
QUOTE(EJay @ Dec 30 2005, 06:08 AM)  I don't know about this new version of Windows. Im placing money that for the first six months, security will be pretty slack. Then Microsoft will roll out the updates and "fix" everything. I was hearing about Vista sending information to other PC's using Vista. That kinda scares me, if you didnt know that that happened before, what is to stop a hacker using a keylogger to track the keys. They can just pretend its an increse in Packet Number. Though GUI looks very nice. I think that it is the Ellegence of Linux without the power! OK here is my take for what it's worth: WINDOWS VISTA SUCKS *arse* Here is why: I have been playing around with it for about a week now and the experience was definitely NOT WORTH IT. INSTALLATION: In pure style Micro$oft: cryptic, frustrating, exceedingly long. It starts with a welcoming screen that asks you what you want to do (install, upgrade, make coffee, have a bj) Of course since i am installing it from the DVD image off the Micro$hit website and booting the pc with it, the only option available is that of installing from scratch! (ludicrously unnecessary waste of my patience to let me read all that crap to find out I CAN DO ONLY ONE THING!!) I chose to format the C: drive and of course i expect the next thing would be to see some message like "Formatting Drive C:" or some *BLEEP*... NOTHING. I am almost on the verge of losing my patience because the freaking interface is not changing and then i realize at the last minute (with no feedback whatsoever) that the NEXT button which was supposed to give the OK and proceed with the installation is still there as if i never even clicked it. I hate sloppy seconds. I click it again and finally it starts... I WISH! Or better... it DOES start without even telling me anything! The only thing barely alive on the screen is a freaking green bar advancing at 0.0001 microns/hr! At this point i assume that it's probably: - checking the drive C for integrity, - formatting the drive, copying the files, - sending a few e-mail to Redmond with my picture profile, - getting off on my porn collection on my storage drive, - buying Amazon.com stocks with my personal Humpa Lumpa's credit card, - registering the installation, - creating the menus, - saving settings, - stalling for time some more, - telling dirty jokes to another computer in Palo Alto, - and finally welcoming with the screen where i can finally type my name, the name of the computer, have my *arse* prints taken (for Bill's personal gratification), and finally accessing the desktop! Now here it comes the scary part USING THE DAMN THING: You couldn't believe what the file manager (or whatever the hell they turn it into) looks like even if i told you! What a mess!! It makes my head spin, along with the wacky interface, as if i was standing in the middle of a busy highway at noon!! It takes me at least 20 minutes to figure out that there is no UP or DOWN arrows to climb or descend the folders and the familiar dear old normal folder view (yes, THAT one!) is gone forever... sob... sigh... sniff-sniff... Where am i? What kind of dream is this? Why, oh why, cruel world!?! Everything is replaced by these huge freaking huber-icons so detailed i can see the preview of the Micro$oft contract agreement license down to the fine prints! (Yes... i could read THAT part too... the dirty, dirty one.) Everything moves so slowly... until i begin the slow and painful procedure of... INSTALLING THE DRIVERS@#$%*&^@!!!: Audio drivers: pretty standard stuff, i got a universally known AC97 on board device. I tried every single driver in the universe, and still i had the same result. It sounds like *BLEEP* until i set it to quadriphony... if i try anything like Surround Sound or 5.1 it either crashes horribly (freezing) or doesn't sing anymore... nice. The internet is the only thing that seems to be working normally. Of course i installed immediately Firefox and Thunderbird (The hell with Explorer, as if i didn't have enough pains in my *arse*). I got cable and that was my only source of happyness. WinRAR is not allowed to be installed, only 7Z, no complaints there, except what if i wanted the freaking choice for such a simple software??? Oh and by the way... the hardware is no pussy: 64 bit AMD Opteron 1400Mhz, nVidia Quadro 2000, 1Gb of DDR ram and still friggin' slow!! Photoshop? Maya? Forget about it! I got deadlines damn it! support for RAID? eh... YOU WISH! Norton Antivirus? Tried that... freezes the system or refuses to install (nont necessarily in that order) Screw Windows Vista, i wish i could say screw M$ too but i can't, i still need this piece of *BLEEP* because all the highend software out there only works on it except for a few proud ones like Maya... So i am going back to Win XP Pro 64 bit (which didn't give me half of the dumb *BLEEP* Vista gave me) and stay with it until M$ either changes its *BLEEP* attitude about treating customers like CRAP or the big movers come up with more friggin' software for Linux which (mark my words) i am prepared to pay double it's worth as long as i don't have to see the Windows logo again!!! oh and btw... dd you take a look at the official retail prices for Vista? Don't ask... just go look and enjoy the joke! I won't buy that for a dollar. CONCLUSIONS: You like M$? Stick with Win2000 or XP Pro, go no further. You wanna be free? Petition for Adobe, Autodesk and the other guys to MAKE SOFTWARE FOR LINUX! Took me 1hr to install Fedora Core 5 and use it, run it for 3 months solid after having used Fc3 and Fc4 for two years solid on my crappy laptop. Documents, spreadsheets, graphs, presentations, emails, web surfing with all the bells and whistles, every little thing you M$ whipped pussies do with windows i did it faster, better and without fear of freaking virii, malware and all that other crap! 300 bucks in antivirus software and spyware software??? 200$ in the operating system?? Are you insane? In my world i prefer to invest in hardware and in software that pays my bills like graphic software and programming packages! Screw OS licenses! And anyway everybody knows that virii and spyware come from the very same people that claim to make software that is supposed to defend us! Right Symantec and McAfee??? With all those billions worth of market shares they could cure AIDS and feed starving children until they begin developing eating disorders, damn it!
QUOTE(higherminds @ May 14 2006, 03:54 PM) OK here is my take for what it's worth: WINDOWS VISTA SUCKS *arse* Here is why: I have been playing around with it for about a week now and the experience was definitely NOT WORTH IT. INSTALLATION: In pure style Micro$oft: cryptic, frustrating, exceedingly long. It starts with a welcoming screen that asks you what you want to do (install, upgrade, make coffee, have a bj) Of course since i am installing it from the DVD image off the Micro$hit website and booting the pc with it, the only option available is that of installing from scratch! (ludicrously unnecessary waste of my patience to let me read all that crap to find out I CAN DO ONLY ONE THING!!) I chose to format the C: drive and of course i expect the next thing would be to see some message like "Formatting Drive C:" or some *BLEEP*... NOTHING. I am almost on the verge of losing my patience because the freaking interface is not changing and then i realize at the last minute (with no feedback whatsoever) that the NEXT button which was supposed to give the OK and proceed with the installation is still there as if i never even clicked it. I hate sloppy seconds. I click it again and finally it starts... I WISH! Or better... it DOES start without even telling me anything! The only thing barely alive on the screen is a freaking green bar advancing at 0.0001 microns/hr! At this point i assume that it's probably: - checking the drive C for integrity, - formatting the drive, copying the files, - sending a few e-mail to Redmond with my picture profile, - getting off on my porn collection on my storage drive, - buying Amazon.com stocks with my personal Humpa Lumpa's credit card, - registering the installation, - creating the menus, - saving settings, - stalling for time some more, - telling dirty jokes to another computer in Palo Alto, - and finally welcoming with the screen where i can finally type my name, the name of the computer, have my *arse* prints taken (for Bill's personal gratification), and finally accessing the desktop! Now here it comes the scary part USING THE DAMN THING: You couldn't believe what the file manager (or whatever the hell they turn it into) looks like even if i told you! What a mess!! It makes my head spin, along with the wacky interface, as if i was standing in the middle of a busy highway at noon!! It takes me at least 20 minutes to figure out that there is no UP or DOWN arrows to climb or descend the folders and the familiar dear old normal folder view (yes, THAT one!) is gone forever... sob... sigh... sniff-sniff... Where am i? What kind of dream is this? Why, oh why, cruel world!?! Everything is replaced by these huge freaking huber-icons so detailed i can see the preview of the Micro$oft contract agreement license down to the fine prints! (Yes... i could read THAT part too... the dirty, dirty one.) Everything moves so slowly... until i begin the slow and painful procedure of... INSTALLING THE DRIVERS@#$%*&^@!!!: Audio drivers: pretty standard stuff, i got a universally known AC97 on board device. I tried every single driver in the universe, and still i had the same result. It sounds like *BLEEP* until i set it to quadriphony... if i try anything like Surround Sound or 5.1 it either crashes horribly (freezing) or doesn't sing anymore... nice. The internet is the only thing that seems to be working normally. Of course i installed immediately Firefox and Thunderbird (The hell with Explorer, as if i didn't have enough pains in my *arse*). I got cable and that was my only source of happyness. WinRAR is not allowed to be installed, only 7Z, no complaints there, except what if i wanted the freaking choice for such a simple software??? Oh and by the way... the hardware is no pussy: 64 bit AMD Opteron 1400Mhz, nVidia Quadro 2000, 1Gb of DDR ram and still friggin' slow!! Photoshop? Maya? Forget about it! I got deadlines damn it! support for RAID? eh... YOU WISH! Norton Antivirus? Tried that... freezes the system or refuses to install (nont necessarily in that order) Screw Windows Vista, i wish i could say screw M$ too but i can't, i still need this piece of *BLEEP* because all the highend software out there only works on it except for a few proud ones like Maya... So i am going back to Win XP Pro 64 bit (which didn't give me half of the dumb *BLEEP* Vista gave me) and stay with it until M$ either changes its *BLEEP* attitude about treating customers like CRAP or the big movers come up with more friggin' software for Linux which (mark my words) i am prepared to pay double it's worth as long as i don't have to see the Windows logo again!!! oh and btw... dd you take a look at the official retail prices for Vista? Don't ask... just go look and enjoy the joke! I won't buy that for a dollar. CONCLUSIONS: You like M$? Stick with Win2000 or XP Pro, go no further. You wanna be free? Petition for Adobe, Autodesk and the other guys to MAKE SOFTWARE FOR LINUX! Took me 1hr to install Fedora Core 5 and use it, run it for 3 months solid after having used Fc3 and Fc4 for two years solid on my crappy laptop. Documents, spreadsheets, graphs, presentations, emails, web surfing with all the bells and whistles, every little thing you M$ whipped pussies do with windows i did it faster, better and without fear of freaking virii, malware and all that other crap! 300 bucks in antivirus software and spyware software??? 200$ in the operating system?? Are you insane? In my world i prefer to invest in hardware and in software that pays my bills like graphic software and programming packages! Screw OS licenses! And anyway everybody knows that virii and spyware come from the very same people that claim to make software that is supposed to defend us! Right Symantec and McAfee??? With all those billions worth of market shares they could cure AIDS and feed starving children until they begin developing eating disorders, damn it! Huh well lets see Vista is a FRIKEN BETA! Give it a break, if you wanted a completely stable os use XP until Vista is ready. If you would have read the liecence agreements and disclaimers you would have known that it is a beta, and that it is for testing purposes ONLY its not something you should be downloading for your primary computer and expect it to be perfect. MS TREATING ITS CUSTOMERS LIKE CRAP??? Pull your head out, you didnt buy it ITS STILL A BETA, you can continue to say all that crap but you just sound more and more like an idiot. Also if it was that slow why dont you get some more ram, you were probably below the system requirements or if you have a 512mb flash drive you can use it to speed up your system, I got one on sale for $12 and my computer, with vista, has no troubles. Before you go off discrediting a program or OS do some research. ITS A BETA. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD ITS A BETA, SOME PROGRAMS AREN'T GOING TO WORK WITH IT, Microsoft didnt block anything, the code just isn't 100% compatible because its a BETA!
Windows Vista Beta 2 is like Windows XP 64-bit .. it works just like it it was just a proof of concept. It doesn't really work and it's very slow. Furthermore, it's too bulky and it looks just like MacOS X.
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I think from the screen shot I have seen of Vista it will be awesome.
I've got it downlaoding like but it's going to be a few days even with my PC running 24/7. I can't wait to get it. Has anybody else tried downloading it? What do you think it will be like? What are your thoughts on Windows bring a new OS out? 
Hey Windows Vista will be out this month(November , 2006). It will be out with the Enterprise Edition right now. I am going to get that for sure or should i wait for Ultimate in January, 2007 thats 2 months away. I am getting tooo excited for this. I just love Vista and it is surely the best I believe. Anyone going to try this baby out in November. Please post if you do.
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windows vista really looks cool but i doubt that it will be as fast as windows xp ,there seems to be a lot of graphics in windows vista but i don't mind using it it looks great
Have you got windows vista?
i am interested in getting this, when released in the UK. f you have got vista, what do you think? I've been hearing things such as it is slowing people's computers down. I was wondering if i have the right system requirements to run this OS on my system: 500GB Hard Drive 1GB Dual Channel Memory GOOD graphics card Intel Pentium D Processor 4MB internet access 3.0 GHZ bla bla bla. is it good enough, especially to run the AERO effect of vista Thanks
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