CinnamorollTK
Feb 23 2007, 10:26 PM
Recently I purchased an Emachines computer with Windows Vista installed. I thought "the newer the better." I was horribly wrong. Once I got it, it took an hour or two just to get the thing started and updated. Then it had tons of start-up files on it that I had to shut off with the msconfig file. Once that was over, I went to check the games that were pre-installed from a comany called WildCoins. I played Diner Dash and got addicted to soon find out that after two free plays, you have to pay to play or play online. That was upsetting since I couldn't get internet until three weeks later. I (and my fiance) took time to calm down and tried to install his old computer games like Final Fantasy XI to find out the majority wont work. The higher tech it is, the less likely it will install. Supposedly some security features cause games to not work. iTunes, on the other hand, only took two tries to install and then it worked. He downloaded many games that wouldn't work except for Ragnarok Online which worked (although I'm not sure how he got it to work). Overall thought: Avoid Vista. Even XP is much better than it.
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JDameron91
Feb 23 2007, 11:32 PM
Wow, thanks for the info man.  I was curious as to see what Windows Vista is like, possibly upgrading to it from XP. But hearing you makes me want to change my mind. xD
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MIGUE2k7
Feb 24 2007, 03:47 AM
I have the same opinion of Vista by now  It was too hard to make the drivers work properly with Vista installed, i had to reinstall my graphics card driver about 6 times  and some games werent going to start up due to the incompatibility with the new graphic render controller or something like that... well, im back to XP now too, at least until is are released all the utilities needed to run properly my common programs and games. By the way, your PC may be way too advanced like for running your old applications
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FolkRockFan
Feb 24 2007, 05:10 AM
Vista's been out for, what, a couple of weeks now? Of COURSE it's going to be littered with bugs. I believe that Vista will be a stable, decent OS in about a year. Until then, though, I'm avoiding the stupid thing the way that I avoided XP during the first year of its release. Micro$oft has always been too in love with releasing software before the major bugs are resolved.
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street
Feb 24 2007, 06:04 AM
Well my friend has vista and it runs real smooth on his computer he had upgraded his windows. Also of course the windows vista is going to have bugs all new things have bugs there has never been anything in the world that comes out perfect on the opening day. Ex:Windows Xp everyone was complaining about the security on how xp is not going to be all that good and look at it now one of the best OS. So Vista is going to be stable just give it a few more months and it will be good.
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ghostrider
Feb 24 2007, 04:51 PM
I've heard a lot of bad things about Windows Vista, but some goods things too. As said above, its only been 3 weeks since its been out, and in most software there are some bugs at the first release. QUOTE It was too hard to make the drivers work properly with Vista installed, i had to reinstall my graphics card driver about 6 times Windows Vista is a new operating system. Things are going to be different, hopefully for the better. Some drivers might be incompatable. I don't know whether Microsoft changed the way its OS deals with drivers in Vista, but its possible some techincal details have been changed with drivers. Its not always the person who writes the operating system that causes the bug, bad or incorrect programming by software programmers can cause errors, too. As for this: QUOTE and some games werent going to start up due to the incompatibility with the new graphic render controller or something like that.., Windows Vista has a new graphics processor. This is once again the job of a software programmer, not a system programmer, to fix. I haven't looked at the technical details of Windows Aero, which I believe the new Graphics System in Vista is called, but if they made it incompatable than there probably are a lot of changes. I am designing an Operating System from scratch, and it is not easy. However I find its not a bug in my in my OS code, its usually a bug in the code I'm writing for my OS.
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CinnamorollTK
Feb 26 2007, 09:53 PM
QUOTE(street @ Feb 24 2007, 01:04 AM)  Well my friend has vista and it runs real smooth on his computer he had upgraded his windows. Also of course the windows vista is going to have bugs all new things have bugs there has never been anything in the world that comes out perfect on the opening day. Ex:Windows Xp everyone was complaining about the security on how xp is not going to be all that good and look at it now one of the best OS. So Vista is going to be stable just give it a few more months and it will be good. Maybe it runs smooth for him since he has not tried to install any games or has not used any help files from older applications. The older help files (win32hlp.exe if I remember correctly) wont work with Vista. By the way, did your friend upgrade to Vista Home Basic or another version? My opinion is that Windows Me is the best.
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shigajet
Feb 28 2007, 03:49 PM
QUOTE(CinnamorollTK @ Feb 27 2007, 06:53 AM) My opinion is that Windows Me is the best. Are you kidding? Windows Me was actually a step down from Win 98.
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CinnamorollTK
Mar 3 2007, 01:31 AM
QUOTE(shigajet @ Feb 28 2007, 10:49 AM) Are you kidding? Windows Me was actually a step down from Win 98. Me had that unzipping application installed, plus a few other things I can't remember that got me mad since XP didn't have them and neither did 98 or 95. Plus, its just my opinion, and I haven't dealt with 98 much. Also, I've just recently gotten a laptop with 98 and it seems so limited (maybe since its 10 years old) 10 years old meaning the laptop and not the programming
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cangor
Mar 4 2007, 05:35 PM
Uh, yeah, I kinda guessed Vista was trash. Windows keeps coming out with newer and newer operating systems and they just kill your system further and further. XP was definately a step down from 2000, and Vista just sounds like its getting worse.
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bluedragon
Apr 24 2008, 08:18 AM
I just wish MS had released a SP3 or some kind of upgrade instead of Vista. and as if this was not enough, theres no Direct X 10 version for Windows XP. I've been waiting for so long to play some games with DX10 but when i got this news I decided to let it rest. Even though all of my hardware supports Vista 100% I will stick with XP untill the support for XP is removed like they did with 98  I wish Microsoft ppl had more brains 
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Saint_Michael
May 8 2007, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(hateheals @ May 8 2007, 04:43 AM) Vista is a RAM sucker.My pal says even with 1.5 GB RAM.It slows down his performance by a lot,the system alone consumes a bout 300 MB,not recommended for us 512 MB RAM users . And as if that wasnt enough,drivers for Vista are very hard to come by and connection to the internet is a pain.The games are decent but i think i prefer good old solitaire.If you are stuck with a pirated version of vista,cracking is a PAIN and if improperly done,can screw up your data...stick to good old XP is my advice What I found funny about that was my parents dell computer which is 512MB of course, can handle vista premium, which I was in complete shock when I saw it. Even 1.5 Gigs of ram is still slow, most likely once you start turning stuff off it won't be such a problem, but of course I plan to drop 2 gigs on a desktop to run vista smoothly. Especially with all the resource hogging programs I got on my computer I would need at least 2 gigs; now if I had the cash I might drop in 4 gigs of ram, but I might go with 2.5 if possible I have to ask in my pc hardware course in a few weeks. QUOTE(dwayne12 @ May 8 2007, 07:30 AM) Vista is definitely trash without a doubt. It's riddled with flaws I mean the product activation was cracked so quickly and it was all Microsoft's fault. I definitely agree with the people who say vista isn't anything exciting to me it just seems like eye candy more than a new operating system. Well I think the reason it got cracked is that people who got the beta OS through the MSDN accounts had it loaded it up on torrent sites, so hackers, crackers, phreakers and phrackers had there sweet time in working out the details to see what they could fine. Or they were doing these activities themselves and see what they can do. Of course I find it funny that no one has called Vista another ME, because of how bad ME was. Of course word has it, MS is already working on the new OS and it's supposed to be in beta in like 2009-2010 or something like that, so it could be interesting that vista could be like ME just prettier.
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Kubi
May 8 2007, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(CinnamorollTK @ Mar 7 2007, 04:02 PM) The cheapest Vista, with tax, is $391 on a new computer at Best Buy where I live. It comes with the speakers, keyboard, and mouse so you can use your own old monitor (or buy a used one at Goodwill like I did for $8.95). That's IF you get it from the wrong place. I can find one for less then 100 bucks. Yes, premium edition. No, not the upgrade. As for the bugs, ofcourse! It's 3 weeks old! Give it a break. nothing is perfect when it first comes out. WinMe and XP both come with WinZip....I don't understnad why you say it doesn't. If you don't like Vista, WAIT
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dwayne12
May 8 2007, 11:30 AM
Vista is definitely trash without a doubt. It's riddled with flaws I mean the product activation was cracked so quickly and it was all Microsoft's fault. I definitely agree with the people who say vista isn't anything exciting to me it just seems like eye candy more than a new operating system.
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hateheals
May 8 2007, 08:43 AM
Vista is a RAM sucker.My pal says even with 1.5 GB RAM.It slows down his performance by a lot,the system alone consumes a bout 300 MB,not recommended for us 512 MB RAM users . And as if that wasnt enough,drivers for Vista are very hard to come by and connection to the internet is a pain.The games are decent but i think i prefer good old solitaire.If you are stuck with a pirated version of vista,cracking is a PAIN and if improperly done,can screw up your data...stick to good old XP is my advice
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