hellgate
Apr 16 2005, 07:10 AM
| | i think the whole point of being an vegetarian is you help beasts. BUT, why should you do it if no one else do it and the cows will die!! there have to be much more vegetarians if you want to stop it. so plz post here if you have to say it that i am right or not right:) |
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heavensounds
Apr 16 2005, 07:52 AM
Look...It is all about how you feel when you eat animals and I think in what you believe...let me explain: First you have to know that most of those chickens you eat live 15 days maximum and is that healthy meat?- i'll leave it to your judgement! So first thing is health - Men were not made to eat animals because our teeth are made for vegetables but lets say that is not a problem. The next thing is your believe, if you believe in karma than if you kill an animal this is bad karma and you will suffer in this live or some next because of it - so you don't kill animal neither you eat them, because they had to die because of you! But here is the catch...I think that if you just eat meat and that animal died anyway, this is not and cannot be bad karma, bcause you were not the cause of her death! (If you didn't buy it, someone else would). And so for me the only thing that keeps me mostly from eating meat is the compassion and knowing the way this animals are killed (i saw the procedure a few times - AND IT IS NOT AN ACT ON A LEVEL OF A HUMAN BEING!). So it is up to you in what you believe, but here are a few thing you might keep in mind;) greetz
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cse-icons
Apr 16 2005, 02:20 PM
I agree with heavensounds over there. But its all how u perceive the act of eating meat. Firstly human teeth are not meant for eating meat neither are they natural hunters. Another idea is if everyone thinks that he should eat meat since lot of others are eating too and that only his being vegetarian would not make the difference then think again, coz if everyone thinks the same way no one would ever stop eating meat. It is just an endless cycle. There is another thread that speaks of vegetarianism vs non-vegetarianism. http://www.trap17.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7712Also I feel that there are a variety of ways in which tasty vegetarian food can be cooked and eaten, and do not feel that eating meat is the only way to survive. Cheers.
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Shoobi
Apr 16 2005, 03:07 PM
Well I am fairly vegetarian.. lol that sounds a bit weird but you see, I try to be and sometimes.. when you go to your friends houses and their mothers feed you vegetables and rice.. it gets too much.. i eat only chicken occasionaly but try to avoid it.. It was a funny story how I came about being a vegetarian.. I wasn't always a vegetarian.. My mother was taking me to the supermarket and there was a butcher type thing there and i saw what the chickens looked like. I didn't actually think much to it before that and i asked my mother what it was and she told me and i have been shocked and off meat ever since! .. and then once i had cravings and i go to my mum.. the chicken is dead anyway
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dodgerblue
Apr 16 2005, 03:55 PM
QUOTE(cse-icons @ Apr 16 2005, 10:20 PM) I agree with heavensounds over there. But its all how u perceive the act of eating meat. Firstly human teeth are not meant for eating meat neither are they natural hunters. Also I feel that there are a variety of ways in which tasty vegetarian food can be cooked and eaten, and do not feel that eating meat is the only way to survive. Cheers. Well, that's subjective too - who is right to say that human teeth "are not meant for eating meat"? Or that they aren't "natural hunters"? How do you define "natural"? By birth? Or learnt? Secondly, you don't have to hunt to eat meat. You can eat carcasses. Like vultures. Kinda gross, but if you were starving in the jungle, you probably would. Next, nobody's saying that eating meat is the *only* way to survive... But personally I think you can't have a healthy diet overall by just eating vegetables alone, or just eating meat alone. Moderation's the key.
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hellgate
Apr 16 2005, 04:16 PM
oke i understand you guys i am against non vegetarians because i am self an vegetarian. the only thing is that we will never be a huger group then the non vegetriaons that is the problem.... so it is very difficult to choose if you want to be or not. and most of the people think chicken is nice so i eat chicken and you chicken *BLEEP* off... they only care about there selves!!!
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thebluekirby
Apr 16 2005, 04:41 PM
vegitarians belive that not eating animals save their population. But it's all a part of the food chain. The lion wouldn't have survived if he didn't eat the mice or the fox wouldn't survive without eating the chicken. Animals eat other animals, whats wrong with us eating animals? Vegitarians are just... dumb. No offense
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brainless
Apr 16 2005, 06:30 PM
well ... I don't think it's right that human teeth are not meant to chew meat (if we were supposed to eat vegetables only, we wouldn't need the sharp teeth in the front), actually I've learned in school that meat contains some essential fat acids [I don't know if that's the right word ... well, at least it's somewhere near it], which no known vegetables contain. A lack of these will not be unhealthy immediately but after a period of about 10 years of total vegetarianism, there will be detectable changes in the way the stomach works. On the other hand, too much meat is unhealthy as well - most health agencies recommend a piece of meat about the size of a set of cards maximum every day or larger pieces every once in a while. Just to have something to compare this to: The pieces of meat in a McDumb-Burger are slightly larger than this. I for my part am not a vegetarian but I'm avoiding meat whenever it's possible to do so without causing too many problems; on the other hand it happens sometimes that some of my friends are being told that there will be no vegetarian food at a meeting "because there are so few vegetarians and it would be too expensive to provide vegetarian food", I support them by deciding that I'll be totally vegetarian for this weekend as well. Sometimes this helps, sometimes we're still being told that we can't be provided with vegetarian food, and that's the point when we start to make it a problem for the cooks/etc - by bringing our own food even though we've been told that we're expected not to bring own food into the dining room, by complaining to their boss and by asking other people to ask for vegetarian food as we did. A few years ago, it was necessary to do so way more often than it is nowadays, since vegetarians have become a quite large group among the german people...
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AbstracT
Apr 17 2005, 05:36 PM
I think the whole point of being a vegetarian is to help the eco-system. I mean they don't eat meat so animals won't have to die. And they live off the earth..The plants and herbs. I guess that's a heathly way of living.
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GM-University
Apr 17 2005, 05:51 PM
It is because they don't want to eat animals, they may figure they too are animals, and they would not like to be eaten or something along the lines of this, I beleive however it is by nature to eat other animals, in nature the animals they will not eat will sometimes eat other animals, and vegitables where once living too....
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Plenoptic
Aug 5 2007, 12:19 AM
The way I see it, either way you are killing animals. If you hunt and kill the animals to eat, then there you go, you are killing animals. If you eat meat but don't actually kill the animals, you are still part of the demand to kill animals to feed you so they kill animals to supply the demand so you are still indirectly causing their death. Now as for not eating animals or killing them, this means you generally eat vegetation. Now what do animals eat if they don't eat other animals? Vegetation. So if everyone ate vegetation there would be a shortage of vegetation for the animals, so then the animals would die anyway. That is why I eat meat either way. I am not saying being a vegetarian is bad, I just don't see a point to it in my beliefs.
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sheepdog
Aug 4 2007, 09:49 PM
QUOTE First you have to know that most of those chickens you eat live 15 days maximum and is that healthy meat?- Huh?????? Have you ever raised chickens???? I don't care what or how much you fed them, there is no way on gods green earth a chick is going to grow enough to be eaten in 2 weeks. I have no idea where you got that info, unless it was one of those wacko AR sites, and since none of them raise chickens why on earth woud you believe them? I can't imagine what you saw about butchering that was so bad. We have a profesional come out and kill our steer every year, one 22 round to the head and the steer jerks all 4 feet in the air and thumps down on the ground, stone cold dead. He is dead before he ever knew what hit him. Nothing inhumane about it.
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TikiPrincess
Jun 16 2007, 05:22 AM
I tried to be a vegetarian after I read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle and Eric Schlosser's Fast Food Nation the same semester. It wasn't necessarily about the poor animals, though it is really sad, it was more about the unsanitary conditions at the meat-packing plants and the suppliers for the fast food industry. Unfortunately, we've learned that our supermarkets and grocery stores aren't terribly safe either. I finally went back to meat because it's what my body craved and I just didn't have the strength to get through the cravings. My sister-in-law is a vegetarian and has been for over 10 years now. While she was pregnant and nursing, she did crave tuna every once in awhile, so she ate it because she figured that's what the baby needed at the moment. She went back to being vegetarian before her daughter had her first birthday. The problem is that she eats crap. She doesn't really cook for herself and she's not terribly fond of salads. She mostly eats spaghetti and bean burritos. Her best friend is a vegan, meaning no animal products whatsoever. She has to take dietary supplements to get all of the nutrition that her body needs, despite eating a rich and diverse diet. She even had a vegan cake at her wedding, with no butter in either the cake or the frosting. My friend's fiance grew up as a vegetarian because his parents didn't eat meat. When he was finally on his own in college, he ate like the rest of the omnivores and actually enjoyed meat. But he developed a rare arthritis condition, so he can't eat most meats anymore. He can still eat seafood, but there's something in meat, poultry and pork that makes his arthritis flare up.
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FolkRockFan
May 20 2007, 10:47 PM
I was a vegetarian for a couple of years because the taste and smell of meat - any kind of meat - made me nauseous. It wasn't because I cared about the animals - I didn't. My body just went through a phase of reacting badly to meat. But that passed and I resumed eating meat. Pork in particular. Yes, pigs are filthy animals. Yes, it's disgusting to think about. But wow...it tastes so good. We all have to make our own decisions. If you (generalization) don't like the idea of animals being slaughtered for your food, then don't eat them. But please don't try to shove your ideas down my throat. I'm not trying to force-feed anybody a burger, so...yeah.
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NNH1254
May 20 2007, 07:34 PM
I'm a vegetarian because I can be. Humans are different because, though they're evolved to eat meat, we don't have to. IMO, if I don't have to cause the death of a being to eat, I shouldn't. So I don't.
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