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What If Marijuana Was Legal? - What would happen? Should it be made legal?

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What If Marijuana Was Legal? - What would happen? Should it be made legal?

Stricken
Recently I did a school report on Marijuana, in my paper I'm supporting the fact that Marijuana should be made legal. I thought "some" people would like to read my work, and maybe talk about it some.

Please, tell me what you think! wink.gif
Also, sorry if there's some typos and misspellings. For I am really tired, and this isn't fully done yet.

Also, you should know I spend some time comparing weed to tobacco, that's all I'll say =)


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Marijuana



1 out of 100 American adults are in jail. When you see that figure, what comes to mind? You may ask yourself, “Why are so much people in jail?” One of the big answers is: Marijuana. In the year 2006, 43.9 percent of the 1,889,810 total arrests for drug violations were for marijuana- a total of 829,627. Out of that 829k, 738,916 people were arrested for just marijuana possession alone. Think of how much it would have risen since then? In the recent news report about the jail rates it said on average a state spends 25k per inmate. That’s around 18,472,900 dollars- If they where arrested all in the same state, since some sates spend even more, or less per inmates. Oh, yes. Don’t forget the cost of fighting Marijuana “States spent $42.89 billion on Corrections in 2005 alone. To compare, states only spent $24.69 billion on public assistance.” So, in 2006 to around 2005, if you add all that up, the cost of jailing the inmates, and the correction costs: it all adds up to more then 42,908,472.900 being spent! Those 829,627 people did nothing wrong, they did no violent act. If free they’d be any normal working tax payer in the US. The point of this article is to show you that Marijuana isn’t the work of a bad force. Rather the work of a good force but clouded by the government and its drug laws. If we stopped spending all that money, we could put it into something that’d help the economy. Give it to schools, or help feed some poor people. This war on drugs has done nothing to stop the flood of drugs entering the US. “Did alcohol use decrease during the Alcohol Prohibition? No.” in fact “Consumption by women and children increased dramatically” Today we’re seeing the exact same thing when it comes to the drug war. “Every hour spent investigating a drug user or seller is an hour that could have been used to find a missing child…”

"I'm in favor of legalizing drugs. According to my value system, if people want to kill themselves, they have every right to do so. Most of the harm that comes from drugs is because they are illegal."
- Milton Friedman


Every year tons of people die from overdose of sedatives and prescription painkillers like Vicodin and OxyContin eather accidental or on purpose. “OxyContin has been blamed for hundreds of deaths across the country in recent years” And to think these are the drugs that we look up to these day. But you know what you never see? Someone dying from overdose of marijuana.


“In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man.” http://www.drugwarfacts.org/medicalm.htm : Source: US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Agency, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition," [Docket #86-22], (September 6, 1988), p. 57.


Every 6.5 seconds a current or former smoker of tobacco dies, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Around 5.4 million deaths a year are caused by tobacco. “Over 438,000 Americans (18.1 percent of all deaths) die because of smoking each year. Secondhand smoke kills about 50,000 of them.” India has the highest rate -“900,000 Indians a year die from smoking-related diseases, that's nearly one in 10 of all deaths in India. Half of Indian males use tobacco and it is becoming more popular with younger people.“ It is also a huge cause of lung cancer. Yet you still see nothing about deaths from Marijuana. If anything should be illegal, it should be Tobacco. When addicted to tobacco, it’s one of the hardest things to quit. Even people that are close to death from smoking tobacco keep smocking it! According to a study I read about in a college report done on Marijuana: “Studies tend to suggest that weed is less addictive then chocolate and more addictive then sardines” With Tobacco it’s really easy to become physically addicted. Yet, “there has never been any evidence to suggest cannabis (Marijuana) is physically addictive” But, as with anything in the world you can mentally get addicted to Marijuana, just as you would become mentally addicted to watching T.V. When you’re physically addicted, it’s a lot harder to quit, and you can easily become “sick”, or be in great pain. With a mental addiction, it’s pretty much just a habit. But those are easy to quit compared to quitting when you’re physically addicted.

A lot of people now these days aren’t aware of the health facts about Marijuana. Because all of the facts we get from school and papers, where written in such a way to get a drug free America. How can you trust facts that are written JUST to stop people from doing it? You need facts from a source that’s not influenced, as I bet you know from doing school reports. What the government said all those years ago, that Marijuana caused cancer, and killed brain cells, couldn’t be farther from the truth. To this day, there has been no reported case of lung caner from weed, and in fact, some studies show that weed protects some brain cells if used right. Of curse, as with anything if used too much can have harmful effects. Just as with TV, or video games. The healthiest choose would be to smoke nothing at all. Since tar can get in your lungs. But there’s ways to smoke marijuana, get the effects, but no tar, rather then the normal way of smoking anything. Marijuana works as an anti depressant; it works better and is healthier for you then the standard of medication out in the market that you get from your doctor. Not only does weed help with depression, it can also bring up creative energy, reduces nausea, and make you hungry. If you have an eating disorder that makes you not eat as much, Marijuana would have a really good effect for you, making you eat more then you might in a day. It can also just help you with relaxation, and make you more tuned into sound. There may be a drug on the market that contains the main active chemical in weed (THC) but it doesn’t give you the full benefits of the plant. It’s the THC mixed with the thounds of chemicals witch makes it work to its fullest extant.

Tons of people believe that Marijuana would lead to other and bad drugs. This may be true to some people. But, if it where true, you’d think that if legal, everyone would start smoking weed, and tons of people would move on to harder drugs, right? Wrong. If you look at the country of Holland, where Marijuana is legal, their rates of Marijuana is much less then our rates, and Holland has amongst the lowest rates in the world of hard drug use, overdoses, drug crime, murders, and anything else horrible that relates to drugs. Tons of studies show that a non-criminal approach is the best for lowering the drug rates, and lowering the rates of Marijuana use. Humans work wonders under as much freedom as they can get, we become smart. America was built under the idea of freedom, and everyday I see something that shows me we’re slowly losing it. This article was not made to encourage you all to smoke. This was made to tell you that it’s not as bad as people think. Just because someone breaths in something doesn’t make them a low life. It just means they’re being free to themselves: they’re having fun. Most of us have 70 to 80 years, might as well learn to not worry, right? Might as well be happy.

“American needs fewer laws, not more prisons.”
-James Bovard

“More laws, less justice”
-Marcus Tullius Cicero (42 BC)


If you wish to learn more you can watch this video. It has tons of facts, and has inspired me to write this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapMhS6AoMw

 

 

 


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tricky77puzzle
Where I am, in Ontario, marijuana is "illegal" (more like extremely frowned upon), but the laws concerning it are very lax and possibly even nonexistent. Medicinal marijuana should definitely be legalized, or stay legalized, in North America. The only thing I don't like about marijuana is smoking it. That can produce very bad effects as well. You could use marijuana for other productive purposes as well, such as using it as hemp, to make paper and clothing, or to bake it in brownies.* (* That last one was a joke. Some people did that before and they ended up callign the police because they thought they were dying. [No emphasis. The red means it's an edit.])

Of course, cannabis is not nearly as bad as tobacco (the LD-50 of delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, according to Wikipedia, is 1.27 g/kg of body weight for men, and 0.73 g/kg of body weight for women, when consumed orally.) but it can have negative effects as well. If you start experiencing any of those effects, STOP! Marijuana is not nearly as addictive as tobacco, so it should be easier to stop.

 

 

 


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MrSandMan
I'm not too keen on the "legalize marijuana" myself. I tried it before, didn't like it. I have friends who put the grass before life responsibility and it's sad. I've dated a girl who used. After I found out, it was a deal breaker.

I do believe that the US people should have freedom to do what they want with their body and live the life they chose. But when it affects other people (mostly children) then I tend not go along with it. And statistic say grass is a stepping stone to harder drugs, like cocaine, heroin, crack, and etc... Drugs that destroy the mind, body, spirit, and worse of all... families.

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arnz
Also have to agree that i'm not a fan of "legalize marijuana" either. Considering knowing a few people who has done the "grass" before life as well, has to be up there with problem gamblers that waste their earnings on machines imo.

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OpaQue
What If Marijuana Was Legal?

1. We would have a Trap17 Forum for Marijuana
2. It could be one the biggest Traffic forum here.


What would happen?

1. I would be the official moderator of this forum. (hehe)
2. I would abuse myself answering people's questions and doubts. Because I practice trial & error approach for problems.
3. No more Credit System Upgrade/mods at Trap17.
4. My members will get MaryJane instead of Support Tickets and solutions to their Queries.
5. I might be a millionare due to my Support System. I might even lose customers due to it. (I rather stick to +ve side)

Should it be made legal?

Looking at Q2, No!

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Inhuman
I only support legalization of weed in medicinal purposes only. I mean if the scientists can prove that it can aid in the treatment of something like cancer or glaucoma, then I'm all for it. Put full on legalization I'm against because my best friend got into it....and well.....about 5 or 6 years later and we barely hang out now. Though he did quit, he definitely changed. He was one of those who felt peer pressure to be cool and what not...I was never like that; my will is too strong to dive into that BS for recreational purposes. I mean, if I was given that as an option for treatment if I had some debilitating disease, then I'd consider it as if it were just another option.....but yea, gettin a little side tracked here. Medicinal legalization I'm for, full on legalization I'm against.

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mrdee
I must agree with Inhuman here. For medicinal purposes (ie. prescribed by a doctor) I agree, after all, morphine and cocaine are also used in hospitals, where it happens under medical supervision, where they use the proper substance without God knows what added to it and where they use the non-addictive kind.

As for pure 100% unconditional legalisation, it would have to be a strong 'NO!' for me as well.

People sometimes argue: if it became legal, that would take a lot of crime off the streets, as drug dealers would no longer be able to offer it, as people would be able to buy it over the counter much cheaper, WRONG! They will most probably adjust what they charge and sell cannabis of even worse quality than before. Or they will just start pushing different drugs then, even more dangerous ones.

Someone also argued, if cannabis were available over the counter, people would be able to buy decent quality stuff from the chemist or coffeeshop or wherever, maybe so, but then the dealers will find something which will make their stuff more attractive to the prospective buyer.

As for the substance itself, recent research has shown that smoking cannbis is even about 80% more dangerous than smoking cigarettes.
Also, all alcoholics started with 'having the odd glass of beer', how many cannabis users have not moved on to hard drugs after using weed for a while?
(So much for the claim about cannabis not being addictive, even if it is not, after a while, when the body gets used to it, some users will want something stronger).

I think it is best left alone, and put to good use under medical supervision, some MS patients seem to have benefited from the use of cannabis, or elderly people with very painful rheumatism or arthritis, in that case it may be treated as an ordinary painkiller as far as I am concerned, but only on prescription and under medical supervision.


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Archangel_Baw
if mj was legal there would be world peace, and I don't even smoke the stuff

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haberjj01
I strongly support full legalization of marijuana. Marijuana is not a dangerous drug and while I do believe that it is a gateway drug, other things can be considered gateway as well.
First, you can't die from injesting to much marijuana. If you smoke too much you will probably just fall asleep. Of course, smoking anything is harmfull to your lungs, but that is no reason to single out marijuana.
Second, Alcohol is legal but thousands of people die from it each year. Why is this not illegal? It can also be very addicting.
Lastly, the whole gateway thing is crap. Alcohol can be a gateway drug as well. And what about all those pills in your kitchen cabinet? As for those studies supporting the gateway theory, who was conducting and sponsoring those studies. Alot of these studies that trash marijuana are government supported.
Alot has been said about people who put marijana before life. It is true that the sterotypical "stoner" only cares about smoking, but this is a bad representation of marijuana smokers. My friends all smoke pot and none of them are idiots or lazy or obsessed with only getting high. In fact, my friends are some of the most intelligent and talented people I have ever met, (ex. my friend Tim is majoring in Quantum Electrodynamics and has smoked weed regularly since 8th grade and has "somehow" managed to graduate with over a 3.8 gpa). Many people put things ahead of life and are complete failures but have never touched drugs. People are obsessed with T.V, video games, shopping, and put those "ahead of life" should we criminalize those things as well? Like everyone else, marijuana smokers have to learn how to manage thier time and priorities. If they or anyone else dont do this, they probably won't be very successfull in life.
As far as what will happen if marijuana is legalized, nothing will really happen. Just like some people don't smoke cigarettes or drink alchohol, some people won't smoke pot. However, new economic opportunities will open up. The government will probably tax pot like cigarettes.

Notice from rvalkass:

Merged accidental duplicate post.

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dre
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if mj was legal there would be world peace, and I don't even smoke the stuff

Wont be any peace coming from my side about it.

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truefusion
QUOTE(mikeyboy63 @ May 24 2008, 01:21 AM) *
On the upside, young people who smoke weed wouldn't be buying it from drug dealers anymore.

I'll let krazygoddess respond to this.
QUOTE(krazygoddess @ May 2 2008, 10:22 AM) *
But I dont think I would like to see it legalized for the fact that the government would tax it like crazy and it would probably be more expensie than it is now.

Indeed, mikeyboy63, the drug dealers don't tax people. The case that people will stop going to drug dealers on the streets fails. Due to the legalization of marijuana, drug dealers will stop hiding and place camp out in the public where every man, woman and child can see. The image given out by these drug dealers will send a message to little children as they grow if the message isn't prevented by the parents from reaching their children (consider how responsible a lot of parents are now-a-days!). Even if these drug dealers were forced to tax their "products," they'll only be competition to any established marijuana facilities and these drug dealers will just lower their prices a bit—it'll be a whole new market.

QUOTE(tricky77puzzle @ May 23 2008, 11:24 PM) *
Of course, there's always the problem of smoking it, so I'm going to point this out: smoking marijuana should be illegal. As long as it's not smoked, I'm perfectly okay with it. Just like if people chew tobacco, they can do it all they want, even in public places, and I won't care; they just have to be over 19 to be able to buy it. [...] Like I said, as long as it's not smoked, let it be legal!

Interesting excerpt:
QUOTE(http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/marijuana-side-effects.htm)
Most over-doses occur actually when the drug is eaten because it is easier to consume a large dose all at once.
The thing about people and doctors is that people don't know what's considered a safe amount. And the thing about educating the public is about reducing an event from re-occuring, not to promote it.

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gaspe86
QUOTE(tricky77puzzle @ May 23 2008, 08:24 PM) *
You know, one point some people haven't pointed out is that, if marijuana use was legalized, there'd actually be less usage of the drug. I'm not saying that these druggies will move on to harder drugs, but some people actually do mari- just because it's illegal. Just like if "piracy" was loosened, there'd be less "real" piracy around because people would support the artists directly if they like them.

Of course, there's always the problem of smoking it, so I'm going to point this out: smoking marijuana should be illegal. As long as it's not smoked, I'm perfectly okay with it. Just like if people chew tobacco, they can do it all they want, even in public places, and I won't care; they just have to be over 19 to be able to buy it.

But then again, this is no reason not to legalize marijuana. Just because smoking it is bad, doesn't mean ingesting it in other forms is as bad.

If someone is going to get hard on marijuana, they're an idiot, but that's their choice. Just because 14,000 people die in car accidents each year doesn't mean driving should be illegal. It's only drunk driving that should be illegal. Same goes with tobacco and marijuana. Like I said, as long as it's not smoked, let it be legal!


Exactly, just as in the Netherlands, when something commonly used when illegal and becomes legal its popularity drastically drops. Come on who would indulge into the excitement of buying marijuana in their local supermarket. Most do it for the rush of adrenaline or sensation that they are breaking the law and getting away with. Anyways don't care if its legal or illegal, I don't use it or plan on using it anyways.

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seba1killer
Hahaha, it is really good for freedom of speech that mj is llegal.
It would also help the governement to lead with it. If the drug is llegal you can take control of it. So they could know when the drug is affecting the people and can put them in "reabilitation".
In my side I would be very happy with this drug "legalised", and i think that you are in the same side tongue.gif .
Regards

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undftdx
I don't even think Marijuana should be considered a drug. Please do not hop on the government bandwagon and assume it is as bad as the authorities say. They try to say its addicting and a dangerous "gateway drug." I have friends who have tried it and they felt no pressure to try other illicit substances. Personally, I think its ridiculous for a college bound teen to get arrested for smoking a joint with less than a gram of weed. Then in result, the teen loses all scholarship money, families can be torn apart, and problems are created. This is all from a minuscule amount of some herb from the ground. Its already the #1 cash crop of the United States. The gov't should just regulate it and get the tax money instead of wasting billions on arresting terminally ill patients growing weed in their shed.

Btw, How many deaths come from marijuana each year?

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tricky77puzzle
QUOTE(mikeyboy63 @ May 24 2008, 01:21 AM) *
If marijuana was legal I'd buy some and get messed up!
Honestly, I think it would take the fun out of it for many young people.
On the upside, young people who smoke weed wouldn't be buying it from drug dealers anymore. Marijuana doesn't lead to other drugs. Buying it and, therefore, hanging around with drug dealers leads to harder drugs. Ruin it for drug dealers and it'll hurt the drug market. They use weed to get kids to try the harder and, more importantly, highly addictive stuff. Once they're hooked on meth or crack, they'll be stealing money from their parents or whatever else is necessary to get together some money for their dope.
Getting kids away from dealers would ultimately help. Legalizing it would also diminish the attraction of it.


Well, finally someone who agrees with me.

I'll say it again. Legalize marijuana except for smoking it (or only illegalize it until you're 21).
If it takes the fun out of it, then that's good; people won't be compelled to do illegal activities anymore.

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