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What Happens After Death? - a theory beyond death or life on this earth

kapuk99
I believe everything is just gone. I mean, there cant be so many spirits walking the earth can there? But pyramids are another thing. Those have curses.

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Joshua
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Well, here's my 2 cents based on what I see the Bible saying:

We "sleep" after death in a place called Sheol or the Grave until the 2nd coming of Jesus, when the dead in Christ will be raised and the living will be caught up to meet Him in the clouds. God will physically (though the bodies will be different, immortal, spiritual ones) raise all the dead of Creation to stand at a final Judgment where all will give accounts for everything they've done in their lives, good and evil, every thought and every action.

I believe there are different levels of punishment in the coming Lake of Fire (what many consider "Hell") just as there will be different levels of reward in Heaven. People will be individually judged by God at the end but we are each guilty before God unless justified through faith and the blood of Jesus, by which we can have mercy instead.

God is going to separate everyone into 2 kingdoms, the righteous, and the unrighteous. There is not and never has been a Purgatory or middle ground. God will not allow into His coming new creation, which will be perfect just as He made and intended this one to originally be, those who will defile it as they've defiled this one. He will not allow the evil people to harm others like they have in this creation.

God withholds judgment at the present time to give a chance for repentance to all. God wants everyone to come to repentance, even the most evil and wicked of people. He's not setting up people to fall, He wants us all to turn from our evil deeds and turn our lives over to Him.

However, God is not mocked. He has said that those who don't show His mercy as they've received it, will receive it no more. In other words, someone who hasn't been merciful to others shouldn't expect God's mercy no matter who's called them a Christian. The Bible says God's idea of good and worthwhile religion is to help those who His heart most aches for, the orphans, the widows, and the homeless journeyers.

The Bible says all God's commandments are fulfilled by a love for Him and for other people. The Bible emphasizes a right heart before God and that God looks on the heart, not the outward appearance, but that a right heart should produce good actions towards others. It's like love. Love is not an emotion, it's a matter of the heart but its outward evidence is the fruit of sacrifice and commitment.

The Bible says all thoughts of men's hearts are open and bare before God and He sees the intents and motivations we have that even we ourselves are unaware of. The Bible says it is by our words that we will be justified, and by our words that we will be condemned for "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."

The main Bible verses involved on the final Judgment: 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, 1 Corinthians 15:12-55, Matthew 12:35-37, Romans 14:9-12, Revelation 20:11-15, Matthew 25:31-46

Other topics: 1 Samuel 16:7, Romans 13:8-10, Ephesians 2:8-10, James 2:8-16, Romans 3, Matthew 22:37-40, 2 Peter 3:9-10

 

 

 


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verdant
if it were according to me, it would be that nothing happens at death. you seperate and dispurse the three things that made you. your body (including everything that made up your personality, since that all in your brain.) your energy, the stuff that made you animeate, and your soul (the spark of divinity that makes you a part of the living universe) you can disagree if you want but i think if you take out any one of those three you'll die in some respect or another. regaurdless of how it happens once you are dead. its cool. theres nothing. if there wasnt nothing and there was some sort of awareness. you wouldnt realy be dead. now would you? the way i think of it being dead means absolute nothingness. no senses to interpit any sort of reality. reality of course keeps on going, but you do not.

unless, this world we live in is all acording to some sort of external dream had by someone else. or thing. that would really annoy me though.

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kobra500
It really ownly depends wether you want to be cremated or buried. imo anyway, I want to believe in god and life after death but to me it just does not make sense!

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iGuest
reincarnation
What Happens After Death?

Does anyone believe in reincarnation

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Vixen_Poetic
As I've been reading others posts, and contemplating the post I knew I would be making(am making now) it seemed only apropriate that these ruminations occured while listening to General Conference. For those who know or care to look up that reveals what religeon I belong too, but be warned what I am about to type is more analytical and definately not how it is written as doctrine of my faith.

To have an idea of where we are going we need to look at where we come from. The ascent of man in the scientific record is a thoery that has several broken links that while time has served to connect several disjunctions has not as yet been sufficient to fully link the chain. Also, when the latest knowledge of our genetic family tree is laid next to other succesful species it looks suspiciously pruned. I limit it to succesful species because there is no denying the human family is an evolutionary success. Other species with world spanning populations such as cats, dogs, rabbits and foxes (again I only reference species that have been successes without human caretaking, most have been influenced by humanity but have their successes without us) have many branches, many subspecies with significant differences reaching back to branchings tracable though the eons. Ours looks peculiarly linear, at each tracable branching it gets a pruning at that or a branching later, as if there was only one viable strain being preserved, again a pattern that fits a failing species not a vibrant one.

Darwinism says that natural selection will breed a species fit to rule the niche it tries to fill. Chaos theory as aplied to Darwinism says that the parts of a wind up watch put in a bag and shook will eventually result in an assembled working watch. That's a bit of an aproximation but essentially what it means; With all the right parts in the right place the result will be - eventually - order. The problem is that without something nudging things in the right way at the right time, a pile of parts will not make a watch, a bundle of amino acids will not make an animal. Yes, meet my reasoning for intelligent design. Something wanted this world to become the way it is, with green growth, crawly bitey things, running digging things and flying things. That 'something' took a species with marginal succesful survival traits and nurtured it through the ages to become the dominant species on the earth. Why would anyone, any intelligence, spend eons tending this garden? I see two possibilities, the cyinical view or the social view; either we are an experiment, a petri dish tended by a scientist, or a father has prepared a home for his family.

Now, we come to recorded history(and re-recorded, and re-recorded) even though most of it is religeous history. Though the tales told by the Bible follow one family's journey through the treacherous shoals of history it also communicates plainly that the 'chosen people' were not the only people, just the only ones that were guided by God and kept a record that survived to spread throughout the world. It is no surprise that all this happened in the region know as the cradle of civilization; it held a combination of ideal factors conducive to the survival of any social species. Yes, that view assumes that the intelligence guiding the development of the species of man is the 'God the Father' of the bible. It fits the profile of what can be deduced by the pattern seen developing in scientific history. There were many times in human history where the entirety seemed about to implode under it's own weight or explode itself into ity-bity bits, and several of those turning points were marked by someone stepping up and returning reason to the procedings or by a group picking up all they hold most dear and fleeing the impending destruction. So, understanding that any record is corrrupted from true by the bias inherent in the viewpoint of the authors and the subsequent translators/re-interpreters, we still extract from these and other records that there is a God, a Supreme Being, that established a place for the Human Family to dwell.

Now we come to why; why was such a place needed? Well, why does any father of any species create a space, feather a nest, organize an inhabitation? To propogate, to raise up the next generation, to bring about more running furry things and feathered flying things etc. But there is an apparent disconnect here. He acts like a father, yet our lineage is traceable back to the cro-magnon/neanderthal era. And to all apearances it ends when we return to the dust. Something is going on here that we can't see. Like the first glimpse through a microscope revealed bacteria, we need something to alter our ability to percieve in a way that can reveal more. But it doesn't exist, all that is left to us is our ability to reason and what few records remain. Why would an omnipotent being be protective and patient with such an obstinant group? The only possible social answer is that he is our Father in a way that is not quantifiable by scientific measure. No amount of scientific measuring has been able to confirm that there is a spirit that separates from the body at death though there are scientific measures to suggest it, and many a personal account to confirm it. Those of a Jungian psycological bent would say that Near Death Experiences and Out-of-Body flights are a manifestation of the collective unconscious in a dream-like state. It doesn't explain why, with many varied cultures and views of death and afterworlds, these experiences encompass the globe in their amazing similarities. So, with conjunctive evidences and a lack of contradictory evidence, let us base our further reasonings (though some would call them flights of fancy) upon this idea that is stated in the Bible, that God is the father of our spirits.

I wish to take a few moments to point out the diferences in maternal instincts and paternal instincts. The mother of a newborn, with a natural affection, has loved the child of her womb for months before she ever sees it's little scrunched face or wiggly arms and legs. The father posessed of natural affection, on the other hand, loves the mother. He has little personal affection for this baby as an individual, but as a part of his beloved, as someone she loves with all her heart, from that perspective the baby is precious. A personal attatchment will grow in the father as the baby grows into a distinct individual with whom he can then connect. Yes, there are blurring of those lines in individual examples, but in general this social order holds true. Bearing that in mind, the idea forms that there was experiences enough before we were born into mortal forms for God to get to know us as individuals. If it were a matter of spirit stuff being formed and stuffed straight into a mortal shell we would have a religeous history of a mother goddess getting to know us even as we get to know ourselves. So, knowing a father's care for the future of his offspring, we are here in a mortal shell learning what we do of Him and life because it is the best place for us to develop, like a child sent to school.

So, what does that say about our future, after this classroom called life? Our spirits will survive our mortal deaths. We will form new associations and renew old ones. We will help each other to cope with the new understanding of reality we will have having shed the liability of an imperfect body. And if we can grow and learn from that experience we will have a chance at being an adult member of our species. Like a pupa becomes a catepillar and a catepillar becomes a butterfly, there may be many seasons to our development but the butterfly is in our future.

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vijeth
In the Hindu Mythology you have answer fot this. Read the book "Garuda Purana".
But i warn you, read a your own risk. As in hindu it is belived that the book should be read only if u want to die and reach god.
Coz after reading this you are sure to know the secret of life after deathso hence you will loose your eligiblity to live in this world and your soul will be pulled out from yopur bosy.
So even i have not read.
I Dont know its truth or false. But to warn before you read was my duty.

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tinin
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What do you all think happens after death? I will post my theory after listening to you all.

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I got an interesting theory. This theory popped in my mind by watching a certain Anime

1. What is Death?
2. Why there is Death?

Ans. 1 >> Death can be said as when our body,cells stops working or moving since a person is not receiving a signal from the brain.

Ans. 2 >> This is Natural Cycle If one Dies other can survive.

<<Theory>>
Think according to legends, Holy books and different religions that long ago people can live for 100 of years right. But Now it seems that our Life is Shortened. It can be explained by saying that Natural cycle of Balancing. At Olden age there where less population so people lived longer to create a balance between the gate of two world or parallel worlds. (I'll explain about the gate and parallel worlds later on)...

Today there are more death but also there is a high population also....


Now Assume that there are two or more worlds like ours but there may be different scenario with similar person but different personalities or like in this world mechanic is much developed but at same time in other world chemistry , biology or something else...

Now think there is a SINGLE GATE in one world means there is only one passage from one world to travel where gate can be said as a straight line but got many many doors to open inside that passage.

Now in World no. 1 there is a person named 'A' and in the World no. 2 there is a person named 'B' like same person but different personalities.

Now Suppose, that 'A' is dying and at the same time 'B' got a strong feeling to do something like creating some thing. So, Once 'A' is dead then his/her LIFE changes in to Energy passes from 1 world to 2 like 'B' is attracting 'A'. So that he/she can fulfill his/her dream.

Now Let say there is 'n' number of worlds 'n' number of person 'n' number of personalities.
So, this cycle goes on.....
But what do you think about the energy of a person Life happens after this cycle. It means that Person 'A' is not Dead he is living with one of is his personality by evolving together with another personalities.

It seems that this process is created to create an Ultimate Being that can live with GOD or SUPERNATURAL POWER or MASTER or Heavenly Being what ever may be the name of this power.

According to this theory <<>THERE IS NOTHING CALLED AS DEATH WE ARE LIVING FOR SOME REASON> but some times we cannot tell apart the reason that whther we fulfilled or not

Thank you

There may be some mistakes But this is Just mine theory

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Bluebear
Nobody knows, and no one can really say for sure before they are dead. But then it is a bit too late... What you think happens after death, depends on your beliefs. You can say what you think.

As I have said a million times before, I do not really believe in anything. Religion is not important for me, or for almost everyone else here. Most people do not care, they just live their life by the second. I have slitted thoughts about this topic.

1. There is nothing more.
You get this life, and that is it. When you are dead, you are dead. There is no further life, and there is no "heaven."

2. There is something more...
I do not know what it is, but something like a heaven is my closets though. Not a "Heaven full of angels singing and God welcomes you"-heaven, but a place where you meet those you met, knew and loved in your life. This is something many would prefer, but for me it would be quite boring living forever. It is like an unstoppable Sims game. Forever is a very long time, and that is not something I would prefer.

Life is all you have got. If it is a heaven or not, it is important to live day by day, second by second. Because if there is nothing more, and you did not use your life good enough... well, to bad for you.

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adrianator
Time is a relative thing.

What we come to believe and accept throughout our lives, essentially becomes our life after death.

If we're dying, who is to say in that last bit of brain activity, our last moments become an eternity inside our brains. Time is relative remember. Anyways, what you make of your life after death becomes what occurs as you die. What takes moments physically can take an eternity on a relative level that we can't comprehend. This is why people that are brought back from being dead momentarily, can account for a vision of life after death. It is their own thoughts being shaped by an eternity that we can't detect or comprehend. This is my scientific reasoning. This is a gift given to us.

On a different note... all you religious people. God loves everyone and everything. There is a place in heaven for EVERYONE. Hell does not exist, it is a made up place created by people (like the church) who sought to control people by creating divine human law. The bible was, after all, written by man. That is my religious belief.

I think tinin has seen jet li's movie, "The One" a few too many times. Yet he said it was an anime? I'm curious which one. PM me tinin 'n let me know smile.gif

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