jlhaslip
Jan 8 2007, 07:14 PM
| | Here is a link to The Web Standards Project's Acid2 Test for Browsers. It is used to determine a Browser's ability to render an html page according to the w3c Standards.
No surprise, but IE6 is the most horrendous rendering, Firefox and Netscape do 'okay', and Opera does the best.
Opera is actually fully compliant with the Standards, so for those of you who are concerned about standards compliance, get yourself a copy of Opera.
http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/
Firefox 3 passes the test as per the Opera browser, but FF3 is not available to the general public yet. Soon, I hope |
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shadowx
Jan 8 2007, 08:19 PM
seen this before, what i want to know is how badly IE7 does it, yes i said badly, not "well" or "good" and i did so for a reason. The results will be terrible, if i was a betting man id stake my life on it. Anyone with IE7 feel free to check it out and let us know how dreadful it is  shame to see firefox do so badly but maybe, as you say, FF3 will be better, they just need one that is perfect one day.
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BuffaloHELP
Jan 9 2007, 05:58 AM
This is what it looks under IE7  For my work, unfortunately, I have to use IE. My Windows CE.net was designed to utilize ActiveX to synchronize with my work database... I hate to install browser after browser. My webdesigns are not this complicated where it needs to be Web Standard, thank goodness. They are just plain javascripts and php/html. Didn't Firefox just released version 2? I'm surprised FF is getting ready for version 3... such a fast version updates in short period of time. So the curious point is what if it's not a browser translating what would be the standard but the standard revised according to a browser translation? Meaning, what if the standard is written towards more favored browser than the rest?
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Saint_Michael
Jan 9 2007, 06:53 AM
I almost made a assumption but I am glad I caught the were they said they error it on purpose. Now explain this this to me since I am rhetorically stupid on this. If you going to error it on purpose then how is it really a test? As you can tell each browser errors it differently that I get, so am I to assume that this is the reason or is their something obvious that I am missing on this? OR just to show how bad it looks. To me I think the only reason why Opera looks like is because they programed it like that, which means they are bias to the browsers they used. EDIT: well after reading the how it's done still makes me wonder what they are leaving out in that code somewhere meh.
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shadowx
Jan 9 2007, 09:59 AM
Yes i suppose it would make sense to revise the standards if not a single browser can meet them. And its possible they purposely made an error in the code but not being a standards compliant coder i wouldn't see it! Not sure where IE7 gets the scroll bars from (i assume they are part of the page not something that was on the screen at the time you shot it) but i did hear that in beta IE7 couldnt render msn.com properly so IE7 is still officially terrible with standards!
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BuffaloHELP
Jan 9 2007, 11:00 AM
No error on my part when I viewed Acid Test 2 with my IE7. I did the double take as well but the iframe appears due to IE7 unable to digest the code properly. I'm not sure if this is alright to release... but I couldn't wait until this became public. I talked to one guy at CES just now and he gave me the link to download FireFox V3.0 Alpha 2 PreGo nuts 
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Yacoby
Jan 9 2007, 03:29 PM
Strange that the two main browsers anr't standards complaint. I would have though they could have got it right by now. Well, Mozilla seems to have got it right with Firefox 3 I might have to get myself a copy of the Firefox 3 beta, if only for looking how it does stuff different Firefox 2 seems to render stuff very similar to Opera for most sites anyway, so it must be quite near compliance.
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delivi
Jan 9 2007, 09:18 PM
wow thats a great link thanx for sharing
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Jimmy
Jun 6 2007, 08:49 PM
To anyone wanting to get the install file: just go to the directory of that link as they've renamed the install file. You'll be able to see the index and get the right one from there! In here!!!:http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/fir...y/latest-trunk/Be careful as it overwrites your install of FF2 should you be using it! I have done some screen copies to show FF2 and IE7 Differences... IE is truly shocking! the IE7 was a default install, shilst I have a couple of addons for FF2 - (Siteadvisor, LORI site request timer, FireFTP) - none of which should affect the page! These are the results: FF2:  ( Notice how Trap17 is #1 in my bookmarks toolbar ) IE7: 
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galexcd
Jun 27 2007, 04:17 PM
You say how awful IE is but it looks like firefox failed the test as well. The only browser I could find that didn't fail was safari 3.
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benzkids
Sep 7 2007, 10:41 PM
dude they didn't have to run a big test just to say IE6 sucks we already knew that. lol so do you know when firefox 3 comes out???
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Sprnknwn
Sep 7 2007, 09:05 PM
Maybe I'm a bit innocent but I can't believe that years pass and web browsers are still so poor when it comes to standards. It's sad that Firefox did it so bad, let's hope version 3 will be better, because some years ago it didn't seem to matter that you made a website complying with standards... because most people used Explorer and you had to make it thinking that most people wasn't able to think by themselves and install another browser different to the one that their awful OS brought. I think there should be some laws because microsoft is harming seriously web design with their infamous browsers... and they don't seem to worry much about it. At least Firefox is trying to improve its compatibility, but the purpose of new explorer versions is only to copy cool features from other browsers... in copying Microsoft are the kings, no doubt. 
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Sprnknwn
Sep 7 2007, 09:05 PM
Maybe I'm a bit innocent but I can't believe that years pass and web browsers are still so poor when it comes to standards. It's sad that Firefox did it so bad, let's hope version 3 will be better, because some years ago it didn't seem to matter that you made a website complying with standards... because most people used Explorer and you had to make it thinking that most people wasn't able to think by themselves and install another browser different to the one that their awful OS brought. I think there should be some laws because microsoft is harming seriously web design with their infamous browsers... and they don't seem to worry much about it. At least Firefox is trying to improve its compatibility, but the purpose of new explorer versions is only to copy cool features from other browsers... in copying Microsoft are the kings, no doubt.
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Sprnknwn
Sep 7 2007, 09:03 PM
Maybe I'm a bit innocent but I can't believe that years pass and web browsers are still so poor when it comes to standards. It's sad that Firefox did it so bad, let's hope version 3 will be better, because some years ago it didn't seem to matter that you made a website complying with standards... because most people used Explorer and you had to make it thinking that most people wasn't able to think by themselves and install another browser different to the one that their awful OS brought. I think there should be some laws because microsoft is harming seriously web design with their infamous browsers... and they don't seem to worry much about it. At least Firefox is trying to improve its compatibility, but the purpose of new explorer versions is only to copy cool features from other browsers... in copying Microsoft are the kings, no doubt.
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gaurdro
Sep 7 2007, 05:19 AM
QUOTE(Saint_Michael @ Jan 9 2007, 02:53 AM)  If you going to error it on purpose then how is it really a test? As you can tell each browser errors it differently that I get, so am I to assume that this is the reason or is their something obvious that I am missing on this? They put errors in the CSS code to see if the browser would properly ignore the bad coding. it's sorta like when you are skimming a word seek puzzle. if you're using english correctly you'll ignore the almost words but if you're not you'll use invalid words. Each browsers interprets the page differently(non standardly), so it appears different. if you've done much web development or design you know that firefox and IE don't usually agree unless you add a bunch of code that one ignores and the other picks up on. a good example of this is css induced transparency. for IE you have to use a special extra function to make it work (the function is ignored by all the rest of the browsers) because IE doesn't bother using the normal transparency commands. the same is true for making rounded corners on images.
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