heavensounds
Aug 15 2006, 11:12 AM
| | Please imagine two magnets turned against each other with the same magnetic poles. It causes them to parry but at a certain distance, they are in balance. The bigger the power of the magnets, the longer the distance, where the balance is reached. If we raised the power of the magnets, one of them would start to move away from the other. The one moving would be the one with the lower mass and therefore lower constancy.
This is why the mass of the sun is a lot bigger than the mass of all the other materia in its solar system. The sun stands still in the centre and the planets are constantly moving away. If we turned one of the magnets, the one with the lower mass would start an accelerated movement towards the bigger one. In the ideal circumstances or in the vacuum the smaller magnet accelerates until it reaches the maximal speed or the speed of light. Similarly, the Sun should not invert its poles around since all the planets would start moving towards it.
I find that quite possible and easy to understand! |
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garbage
Aug 15 2006, 11:58 AM
I truley dont know, and Really have no idea, but if its moving away wouldnt that be kind of ok, since we are burning up over here. But im also assuming that if it moves to far away it will make it alot colder around, and im sure that will have something to do with global warmng and all that
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Gondero Werkus
Aug 15 2006, 03:08 PM
Are you sure we're actually moving away right now? Because even a slight change in distance from the sun would make a DRASTIC change in the whole world's climate, for the colder I might add. I mean we are so lucky we're even able to live here on earth. We are sitting at the only distance from the sun Humans can live normally like we do now. If we get too much closer we all melt if we get a little farther away we all freeze to death. I mean the very fact that we can live like we do is amazing.
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GrayFox
Aug 15 2006, 03:52 PM
Actually Mars is getting close to us, this is an event that maybe will occur again in 60.000 years!!!
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Madkat-Z
Aug 15 2006, 06:05 PM
Well actually I think we are moving away from the sun for a different reason. As the sun gets older, it loses mass, hence forth the gravitational pull on the planets becomes weaker and the planets start moving away from the sun. This is why Red Giants are less likely to have planets orbiting them because they have a weaker gravitational pull. I don't know if you where talking about the same thing, but this is what I have read in science journals.
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savge17
Aug 15 2006, 07:04 PM
Yes, the earth is moving away from the sun every year. By ONLY 2-3 inches. It will take millions, maybe even billions of years to even make a real diffrence to the climate. The sun is so powerful that any planet can receive its heat and light from very large distances.
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elevenmil
Aug 16 2006, 05:06 AM
Yeah we might be moving away from the sun but obviously it is at a rate so slow it will never have a major effect on the earth and it's inhabitants. Why won't it have an effect on earth? Well, for one, it is pretty much guaranteed that humans will destroy the planet beforehand...quite simple isn't it?
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TypoMage
Aug 16 2006, 07:30 PM
Well I am not very smart in magnets and all that. But very interesting post. Do you always post things this confusing  I got it a little bit but most of it no
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FLaKes
Aug 16 2006, 10:38 PM
Better start looking for another solar system for our descendants lol. That would take a long time before it happens, I bet that by that time technology would be so advanced that it wouldnt even matter. People would probably be able to go to another planet just like when we go to another country.
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Madkat-Z
Aug 18 2006, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(FLaKes @ Aug 16 2006, 06:38 PM)  Better start looking for another solar system for our descendants lol. That would take a long time before it happens, I bet that by that time technology would be so advanced that it wouldnt even matter. People would probably be able to go to another planet just like when we go to another country.
Yeah its never too late to be looking for planets to colonize there. With how big the universe is it might take us a pretty long time to find a planet. Plus the fact once we find a planet we can colonize, it is most likely we will have to deal with what ever beings (wither they be intelligent or not) we come a crossed there. The other thing is that we kind have found a few planets similar in appearance to Earth, but we can't tell if they are exactly like Earth or just looks similar. These planets for all we could know could just be like Neptune but with a sea of methane and bits of rocky Terran, which would mean the planet is no where near suitable for humans to live on. Even in the sweet zone of a solar system this could happen, just look at Venus. Its almost as hot as Mercury, but because of the gases in its atmosphere trap heat making it much more hotter then what it would be without it. So with all these factors playing it might be a good long time before we even find one.
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pedro-kun
Sep 17 2008, 08:38 PM
The sun will actually shrink to a white dwarf, probably :) As its mass doesn't reach Chandrasekhar's limit, it will not become a black hole. Also, It is not massive enough to blow away in a supernova :) And another thing... when the Sun runs out of Hydrogen and decides to start fusing Helium, it will swell... This swelling alone will suffice to swallow both Mercury and Venus, if not the Earth as well. Anyway, even if the Earth isn't swallowed, temperatures would rise so much that everything in the surface would simply roast to oblivion.
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PilzzE
Sep 17 2008, 04:38 PM
Well we are moveing away from the sun. This is only a super super slow process another fun fact to point out because of our trajectory and our basic inertia we will be moveing faster and faster away from the sun as the years pass. During these years the sun will also decrease in power and will in the end only speed our movement up This is untill the sun ''dies out'' and turns itself intoo a red giant (suprisingly the giants are not as strong as the smaller stars) and afterwards let itself explode into a supernova or convert itself into black hole if the latter version occurs we dont have to worry crashing into mars but we have to worry about our planet being the size of a box of matches.
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iGuest
Sep 1 2008, 11:26 PM
Exactly
Why Are We Moving Away From The Sun?
Replying to heavensoundsThis is exactly why planets keep their specific distance. If a planet has an eliptic path around the sun it will increase in current and therefor increase its magnetic field, therefor pulling away from the sun, decreasing its magnetic field.. Etc. This is why some asteroids are called comets, they have an eliptic path and increases its magnetic field so that we see a tail pointing away from the stronger magnet when it gets close. But gravity still works. Just as a magnet pulls metallic objects on both ends. Magnetic fields pull. And we are constrained by specific gravity. The same force that pulls water to drops, and form geodes in the ground. Condensation. But all planets are pulling away from eachother. And the universe is expanding. Why? Because the electromagnetic field increases, because matter is created in a strong magnetic field or in the presence of high energies. As Nikola Tesla stated: "Condensation of the primary substance is going on continuously, this being in a measure proved, for I have established by experiments which admit of no doubt that the sun and other celestial bodies steadily increase in mass and energy and ultimately must explode, reverting to the primary substance." This is what happens. All planets grow, and will keep growing into suns, red giants etc. Until they explode as supernovas, converting some of the matter into pr�me matter, and some into a plasma state called nebulas. Forget about the Big Bang. -reply by Linus Granstr�m
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Moolkye
Aug 22 2006, 12:59 PM
You know, it's so funny to hear people talk about global warming. Thinking that it is our fault. The hole in the ozone was a big thing back in the day, but guess what, it's getting smaller. Global warming is just an idea that someone thought of one day because one summer was unusually hotter than the last 10. So what. Climates change. And I don't know of a meteorologist yet who can actually brodacast the right weather for tomorrow. Besides the fact that supposedly back in the dino age, the climate was much hotter than it is today. More humidity, and hardly any cold areas. Maybe do to continetal drift, Pangaea being pulled apart, yada yada yada. So the dinosaurs caused their global warming by what? Car emissions, really big farts... what? The point is, that we have only been here on this earth for maybe thousands of years, so how can we say what will happen either 10 million years from now, or what happened 10 million years ago. Why not live in the here and now, and stop worrying about stuff we will never see nor may not have any control over.
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icemarle
Aug 22 2006, 09:18 AM
I actually think that we'll ruin the Earth before the drastic climate change caused by moving away from the sun happens. We're already experiencing effects of global warming in some areas. If you were to ask me, I think the Earth is getting warmer... might reach a climax and turn reeaaally cold sometime after though... we never know.
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