renegade-designs
Dec 12 2004, 08:57 PM
hi first of all im sorry for makin the topic title so scary with caps lock,well this thing is about computer hackers... there is a program out there called prorat that is used for hacking computers and connecting to the host's computer remotely and controlling it,i have been hacked with this program by a freind and it was just a joke,but i have seen how someone might be able to do a lot of damage to your computer with this stuff,while i was being hacked my friend sent me messages sayin my computer is guna crash and stuff like error 404 and stuff,he used to open my cd rom and turn on my webcam,he could fully control my computer,this hacking program used can be detected by norton antivirus 2003,2004,and pro.It all starts when sumone sends you a file with a virus attached to it through email,msn,yahoo or anyother chat program or mail.The hacker can then remotely connect to your computer anytime and do whatever he wants with it,just a reminder i spent 5 minutes typing this so that you can guys can stay afe and kno how easy it is getting hacked be careful 
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joshua132
Dec 12 2004, 09:02 PM
What port(s) does the program use? I have a router that blocks most ports.
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OpaQue
Dec 12 2004, 09:22 PM
You cannot be hacked unless u got an open port. So i guess open ports must be avoided *unused ones*.
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cragllo
Dec 12 2004, 09:47 PM
someone sent it to me via msn messenger, aint used it, saved it to my wireless hard drive  Its hidden in my house, "important" stuff on that 
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Bash
Dec 12 2004, 09:59 PM
lol i've heard of the program before, but it's a bit crap since they have to send u a file first... so it's not a very good hack. btw, so u don't have to be in a network for the person to hack? cos the last time i heard of it, it was about hacking people that are only in ur LAN
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renegade-designs
Dec 12 2004, 10:06 PM
I think the hacker can only connect to your computer when you are logged in and you are connected to the internet
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no9t9
Dec 12 2004, 10:55 PM
QUOTE(OpaQue @ Dec 12 2004, 05:22 PM) You cannot be hacked unless u got an open port. So i guess open ports must be avoided *unused ones*. this is not true if, like in this case, you've got a trojan on your computer. the trojan program can open as many ports as it wants to. That's why they are so dangerous. But, if the hacker is trying to gain access without the benefit of a trojan, then it will be more difficult if ports are closed.
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abusado
Dec 13 2004, 12:15 AM
QUOTE(no9t9 @ Dec 12 2004, 10:55 PM) this is not true if, like in this case, you've got a trojan on your computer. the trojan program can open as many ports as it wants to. That's why they are so dangerous. But, if the hacker is trying to gain access without the benefit of a trojan, then it will be more difficult if ports are closed. trojan cant modify the router settings use router!
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JSonicC
Dec 20 2004, 03:51 PM
There called Trojans and theres lots of them. The big one is Sub7. But there very easy to avoid. With simple programs that let you control ports and net conections (something windows should really let you do) You can block and get rid of any unwanted conections. But anyway its not that hard to stay safe, just becareful what you download.
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Galahad
Dec 23 2004, 08:16 AM
QUOTE(JSonicC @ Dec 20 2004, 03:51 PM) But anyway its not that hard to stay safe, just becareful what you download. I agree, just be EXTREMELY carefull what you download, and what You open. Also, wach out for double extension files, something that looks like picture.jpg.exe, 'cause windows hides true extension, you'll see picture.jpg, double click it, and voila, you successfuly installed a virus. And a firewall, or a router, is a MUST! First month I was on the internet, I didn't have firewall. I thought I was gone go crazy. Every 15 or 20 minutes, someone would crash my computer, with rpm overflow attack. And so you watch the countdown utill restart. Not pretty. I installed WRQ's AtGuard, and am more than happy with it. It shows every connection made, even localhost to localhost, and gives you ability to terminate it. Also, you can create different rules for different programs, or ports, TCP or UDP, that can be active at different times of day. It also prompts you for action if some program tries to access internet, and you don't have a rule set up. Truly, a masterpiece. I guess I understand why Norton bought it
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Galahad
Dec 31 2004, 02:40 AM
QUOTE(williamghl @ Dec 30 2004, 11:04 AM) Isnt windows firewall good enough which is included in sevice pack 2? It seems to block all programs trying to connect to the internet....  I guess this is my que to laugh...  Seriously, MS firewall isn't good for anything. Mainly, 'cause it let's MS software out, wich I don't like sending "annonymous" information... Besides, I've seen SP2 crash many systems... It's just crappy... I just want to be able to specify what goes out, what comes in... Without exception... I know I'm using a lot of MS software, but I just got used to it.. My only option is tu try and contain it as much as possible
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williamghl
Dec 30 2004, 11:04 AM
Isnt windows firewall good enough which is included in sevice pack 2? It seems to block all programs trying to connect to the internet....
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Galahad
Dec 30 2004, 10:19 AM
QUOTE(X3r0X @ Dec 30 2004, 07:42 AM) I would really like to know how to close open ports... any ideas anyone? Well, the best way is to use the router, but, not everyone can afford/use the router (me included ) So, the best way is to use a firewall, and create a rule to block all incoming and outgoing traffic. I personaly use AtGuard, and it does the job of protecting me, though if someone wanted to get in real badly, I guess they could, easily Anyway, I thing AtGuard is great, why else would Symantec buy it, and make Norton Firewall, right? Avoid using "intuitive firewalls", like ZoneAlarm, because they THINK they know what to let in, or let out.
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X3r0X
Dec 30 2004, 07:46 AM
QUOTE(Galahad @ Dec 27 2004, 12:47 AM) This is new kind of spyware, they use windows messenger service to send spam messages to range of IP's... What you should do, is turn of messenger service... or tell your firewall to block all incoming messages on that port... I can't remember what port number is, but turning that service off completely will stop those messages. This will also prevent all administrative messages as well, but if you are not on LAN, this is not a problem... PM me if you need further help This "attack" is not tied to Windows or MSN messenger, it is integral part of Windows! Uninstalling any of these programs will not prevent this security hole! Yep. They are using the Windows Service "Messenger" and they can do all sorts of stuff with it. To turn it off would be the best kind of prevention. I wont write a tutorial on how to do so seeing as someone might need the service unknowingly and blame me for it but its pretty simple. You should be able to figure it out yourself.
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X3r0X
Dec 30 2004, 07:42 AM
I would really like to know how to close open ports... any ideas anyone?
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