well, i really think that that the yourhtmlsource.com is the best link that anyone has provided in this post so far i see the most informationa nd from what ive read so far its the easiest to understand even though i know most of what their saying. lol thank you all for your input on HTML sites, and although i am well of in HTML i am still going to go through them all except w2 schools because they dont explain stuff very well. and read all of the info thanx again

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Um its w3schools? and they even have examples and not just html but more languages

 

 

 

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http://www.w3schools.org is awesome. So is http://www.lissaexplains.com. Those help for the short term, but I learned the most about webdesign from reading source code and understanding why this tag makes this happen, etc. Everything I do on the computer nowadays is part of a learning experience for me. From about 4th or 5th grade to 11th now...that's 6 years? I read a book and used it for maybe 2 max. I guess it also helps that my parents have been using computers since their inception (my dad fondly remembers mainframes).

So yeah, whenever you go to a website you like, no one can stop you from looking at their source code - however, don't TAKE IT unless you have explicit permission, and you probably shouldn't do that either - you can learn a lot more from experience, which anyone can say. If you're going to buy a book, which I would say no to, make sure it it's PUBLISHED RECENTLY so you can make use of XHTML, CSS and other recently revised dealies. I made the mistake of trying to use a 2000 book a few years ago, and everything I made felt outdated.

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@danny, lol it wqas a typo.... i dont need examples, i just want to learn about it

ive looked at peoples source codes constantly and learned quite a few things from that as well.

lissaexplains.com is a bit of a slow site for me i duno why but it is, i will check it oput though thanx

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ok, call me a noob if you want i dont really care.

Ok, so right now i am going over somthing i never taught myself and i have a question, and yes it is a noob question.

this is real basic too.

Say i have a table

(yes i do know they will automaticly expand to all of the content that i have in it.)


and if i were to want to make the column that content is in bigger.... i would make it like this instead...



and if i wanted to make a whole row bigger i would do this, or is this a no? i think this one here is a no.... because if i want to make the row bigger i just make the table bigger.



OR if i wanted to make the whole table bigger how would i do it?



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"100" what?

choices would include pixels (px), em's, en's, axe Handles? What?

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What albus is looking for is 100% in some of it the rest is in pixels like so











But the set up your trying to do is similar to this tutorial http://zymic.com/view_tutorial.php?id=118, Although you don't need photoshop to do this the concept is just the same.

Best way I learn is look at other websites and look at the code, I don't do direct copies of it but I take patches here and there.

Now to help boost your css skills I recommend this site http://www.alvit.de/handbook/ for it is loaded with hundreds of css sites of different aspects. Also if you want to get down and dirty and slowly learn how to to build wewbsites http://www.oswd.org/ go here and check out all the templates they have. Who knows you could patch different templates and get a killer design.

I don't put to much effort in books (to much reading and remembering) but most people seem to learn quicker with it, how I don't know but they do.

Also the next question you want to answer is do you want your site to be fluid (meaning all resolutions and browsers accept it) or fixed (absolute positions). Although most people want to go with the fluid design, it takes time and a lot of coffee, because fluid design is the most difficult to work with. Due to the fact that you have to code it to at least 3 browsers (IE,FF, Opera) and about 6 resolutions (800x600, 1024X768, 1280x1024m 1600x1200) with some of those resolutions are gear towards wide screen computers. With Fix design, it takes sometimes but with this though you have to have at least 3 different css scripts running 1 for each browser. Due to the fact that each browser slightly changes the look of the website.

All it takes is time and patience to code a website properly but to do it well you have to remember a lot of coding, something I am not gifted at. But of course if you bookmark a few million sites that help you learn that go ahead and do it. OR if you want to take a template and gut it out and recode from there, not a problem with that either.

This is just some in sight fro ma person who been doing it on and off going on 10 years now. Hopefully some of the info I have provided helps you out a bit.

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Its better to declare the width at the <table> tags as if you declare it at the since if you declare it at the <tr> or <td> tags it will only expand to the table width only... And after you have finish with your html code be sure to validate it at any html validator to ensure that you have gotten them right... One validator is W3Schools...

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@ SM, i was actually talking about PX

but thanks for clarifying that for me, i have spent the weekend going over tables and i think I've got them down good, i do want to get them down better than what i do now, but all it will take is paitence and im working on making that bigger:D

SO for now ive made flash cards of all the Table attributes i have learned so far and im studying them imagine that! umm the rest of this week i'll just study the cards in class, and then start reviewing over other HTML things... like next i am going to go through the form.. *easy, but i just want to make sure*

if i have nay more questions i'll post them here next comes PHP and mySql and i have a friend who is going to help me with that.

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Sorry to double post, but i would like someone to see this post.

I have really gone over tables in the past week so i am bored now and doing it.

SO, i am going over the cellspacing and cellpading and i just have a quickl question.

Which parts of the tables can you put these in? Are they only wanted in the <table> section, or can they be put in the <td> section?

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