jack
Nov 17 2005, 03:03 AM
moogie
Nov 17 2005, 04:26 AM
I went to this site as you suggested and from what I can see, it QUOTE validates conformance to W3C Recommendations and standards It doesn't check your html for errors but for non-conformance to those standards. I entered the URL for my own website, which by the way displays and performs very well, and came up with 17 compliance issues....not html errors. So I think you may have misunderstood what this organization does.
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Tyssen
Nov 17 2005, 04:32 AM
QUOTE(moogie @ Nov 17 2005, 02:26 PM) So I think you may have misunderstood what this organization does.
No, I think it's you who's misunderstood. If the validator finds errors, they're errors, not compliance issues. Just cos your site might display how you think it should doesn't mean that your code doesn't have errors, especially if you're using a loose doctype (or even if you have one at all).
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moogie
Nov 17 2005, 04:55 AM
Thanks Tyssen. You are right of course. Errors are errors. And you're also right about a site displaying even if it has errors and mine did come up with errors.
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Goosestaf
Nov 17 2005, 12:03 PM
newbie questions . . . . but why do you need to make a website 100% validated? Whats the problem if it views allright in all borwsers? How can you make your code "correct"? Why doesn't software liek Dreamweaver create the "correct" code in the first place?
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jlhaslip
Nov 17 2005, 12:11 PM
Another point to be made here. Even if your page goes through the validation process without errors it may not (actually probably won't) display the same in all browsers. The Standards applied are reccomended standards. Not enforced. So various browsers read and interpret them differently which results in the displayed output being similar perhaps, but almost never the same on any two browsers. Firefox (and I am not going to rant about how good it is or isn't) and Opera (same) seem to be the most compliant to the standards. IE requires the most hacks or fixes. I believe the standards are a good thing and I hope the next version of Internet Explorer moves closer to the standards. It would be so much nicer to not have these issues.
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Goosestaf
Nov 17 2005, 12:13 PM
I just dont see the point of spending the time if the most used browser isn't very compliant.
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Razor
Nov 17 2005, 07:56 PM
All it really did for my site is tell me things like "Marginwidth = 0" and would say thats wrong because i didnt need margin width in there at all......still wouldnt make a difference..just really cleared up exess ..uneeded html if you ask me  ... and gave me into trouble for not having a # before my colour numbers .. but at least i finally found out what this validated stuff was all about.. .
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wild20
Nov 25 2005, 04:50 PM
Hey thanks for the topic, this will be great. My site is scratch HTML and I am sure it has plenty of errors that could stand to be fixed. I can't believe someone didn't think of this sooner, it will allow people to perfect their codes. Just need one for javascript, html combined. Thanks again! 
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Plenoptic
Nov 25 2005, 05:13 PM
I have tried this site before. I tried it long ago and had a whole bunch of errors. Of course I couldn't fix it because back then I had no idea what I was doing. It is a pretty good source for proffesional sites. They put the picture saying their site had been validated. It helps make sure that all of the browsers see the same thing and no distorted stuff I think. I don't know the full details.
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BordaForx
Dec 22 2005, 04:45 AM
http://www.yahoo.com/ ------- 255 errors http://www.trap17.com/ ---------43 errors Wow, trap17, good job. You beat Yahoo!.
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Dart-kun
Dec 22 2005, 04:01 AM
Haha, that checker is pretty neat, though, it wants more coding in there, adding things like "border=0" while the border is automatically equal. These types of things get less errors on that site, but it sure does add alot of junk to your coding, pretty unnessesary junk IMO. I like my clean uncomplete code better. Nice site though, worth a few chuckles.
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Tyssen
Dec 20 2005, 05:38 AM
QUOTE(Goosestaf @ Nov 17 2005, 10:13 PM) I just dont see the point of spending the time if the most used browser isn't very compliant.
The point comes if you're trying to make your site viewable to as many people using as many devices (not just browsers) on as many operating systems as possible while at the same time taking into account people's disabilities (mobility, sight etc.).
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theplok
Dec 20 2005, 05:15 AM
Yes, this is a very good tool. I use this tool a lot to check errors and compatibilaty problems with my site, and other sites if i am reading their source. If anyone here uses Firefox, there is a better and more efficient way to do this. If you download an extension called "HTML Validator" which adds the HTML validator to the bottom when you view the source code of any site. Also, there is a better and more efficient way to do this. If you download an extension called "Web Developer". This adds a toolbar above your tab displayer, with many options, like a quick view source, a menu to disable many features, and of course, the option to validate HTML, along with CSS, feed, links, and others.
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