As usual, the infantile attacks against this progressive lifestyle fly in the face of all logic and reason. Having grown up strict vegetarian, I’ve heard every idiotic anti-veg argument you can think of, and over time, each and every one of them have been proven false by the scientific community. But it appears some folks are still motivated by the guilt-ridden rancor that often accompanies feeding on animal corpses in an age when such barbarism is completely unecessary. How else can one explain the moronic: “But plants have feelings too” rant still being hurled around as if it actually had any relevance to this debate. Flesh eaters: If you truly care as much about plants as you claim to, then you MUST go vegetarian as you consume (and thereby kill) infinitely more plants via eating a cow than going directly to the source. Or better yet – starve yourself and rid us of your juvenile excuses to continue killing animals to satisfy your selfish lust for flesh! Yes, you can debate all you want, but in the end it all comes down to your personal lust and inability to control it. And be careful: Pointing the finger at those who have a handle on their base appetites is a dead caveman giveaway.

All satire aside, I hope you see my point that nothing in life is black and white. Yes – we are all involved on some level with the taking of life to sustain our own, and I don’t know a vegetarian who’s hypocritical enough to argue otherwise. By the same token I doubt anyone would argue that our fellow mammals, unlike plants, have central nervous systems that respond to pain stimuli. But we, unlike other life forms, have the capacity to choose how much of an impact we leave in our wake, and ultimately how much pain inflicted. Does that make us superior to the other beasts? That’s debatable. Does it make us more accountable? Most definitely. So, as reasoning beings fully capable of moral judgement, do we contribute (indirectly or otherwise) to the senseless, cruel slaughter of sentient creatures who clearly feel pain, who cry out in mournful agony when the butcher’s knife spills their essence on the blood-soaked concrete, and who cling to the life force as we do? Or do we choose the path that humane men have consistently chosen through the ages? The choice is yours; choose it wisely.

I have absolutely no problem with vegetarianism is a theory, but the way it is practiced is an abomination.

I'm not too familiar with your reasoning for being a vegetarian, but all of the ones I know use the most ridiculous and twisted reasoning I've seen (combine that with disputing facts about vegetarianism and PETA) and it's annoying.

I'd like to see your take on this article: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

As usual, the infantile attacks against this progressive lifestyle fly in the face of all logic and reason. Having grown up strict vegetarian, I’ve heard every idiotic anti-veg argument you can think of, and over time, each and every one of them have been proven false by the scientific community. But it appears some folks are still motivated by the guilt-ridden rancor that often accompanies feeding on animal corpses in an age when such barbarism is completely unecessary. How else can one explain the moronic: “But plants have feelings too” rant still being hurled around as if it actually had any relevance to this debate. Flesh eaters: If you truly care as much about plants as you claim to, then you MUST go vegetarian as you consume (and thereby kill) infinitely more plants via eating a cow than going directly to the source. Or better yet – starve yourself and rid us of your juvenile excuses to continue killing animals to satisfy your selfish lust for flesh! Yes, you can debate all you want, but in the end it all comes down to your personal lust and inability to control it. And be careful: Pointing the finger at those who have a handle on their base appetites is a dead caveman giveaway.

All satire aside, I hope you see my point that nothing in life is black and white. Yes – we are all involved on some level with the taking of life to sustain our own, and I don’t know a vegetarian who’s hypocritical enough to argue otherwise. By the same token I doubt anyone would argue that our fellow mammals, unlike plants, have central nervous systems that respond to pain stimuli. But we, unlike other life forms, have the capacity to choose how much of an impact we leave in our wake, and ultimately how much pain inflicted. Does that make us superior to the other beasts? That’s debatable. Does it make us more accountable? Most definitely. So, as reasoning beings fully capable of moral judgement, do we contribute (indirectly or otherwise) to the senseless, cruel slaughter of sentient creatures who clearly feel pain, who cry out in mournful agony when the butcher’s knife spills their essence on the blood-soaked concrete, and who cling to the life force as we do? Or do we choose the path that humane men have consistently chosen through the ages? The choice is yours; choose it wisely.

The guy that wrote that article truly is an arrogant prick.

He made that article to try to clear his concience, to try to make it okay for himself to eat meat. As PETA have stated, there are millions more times of animals killed every day than to worry about the few killed by harvesters. Also, his SOURCE page doesn't work, so I can't check it's validality.

CF AND I WERE HAVING A NICE BUT SHORT DEBATE ABOUT VEGETARIANISM

Please refrain from attacking other people as morons and idiotics just because they like yummy meat.

Last I checked, this forum is open to input from all members, even those who vehemently disagree with the unsound logic put forth here. The author may want to consider conducting a closed conversation via IM or email if he wishes to exclude those who hold diverse opinions or otherwise threaten an established worldview. Otherwise, free speech reigns.

Oh my! I highly suggest the author learn the difference between an attack on an individual verses an opinion of an idea. Do I disrespect ideologies based more on subjective guilt and lust for flesh than sound reason and scientific fact? You bet I do! But I do not participate in, nor approve of personal attacks (otherwise referred to as "flaming") such as the ones exhibited in this author's post. Furthermore, I will not dumb-down my language for fear of coming off sounding "superior" to those somehow threatened by intellect and proper use of the English language. How far, I wonder, must the common denominator be lowered before everyone is "comfortable." If some had their way our conversations would be reduced to the occasional grunt or groan, as we make our way through the filth on all fours.

By the way, if vegetarians often come off sounding smarter than their beef-eating brethren, it's because they are - some five IQ points to be exact. This is a generalization of course, but the facts are conclusive per a British study carried out over the course of 20 years. Here is evidence for those who remain skeptical: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article...tudy/article.do

Last I checked, this forum is open to input from all members, even those who vehemently disagree with the unsound logic put forth here. The author may want to consider conducting a closed conversation via IM or email if he wishes to exclude those who hold diverse opinions or otherwise threaten an established worldview. Otherwise, free speech reigns.

Oh my! I highly suggest the author learn the difference between an attack on an individual verses an opinion of an idea. Do I disrespect ideologies based more on subjective guilt and lust for flesh than sound reason and scientific fact? You bet I do! But I do not participate in, nor approve of personal attacks (otherwise referred to as “flaming”) such as the ones exhibited in this author’s post. Furthermore, I will not dumb-down my language for fear of coming off sounding “superior” to those somehow threatened by intellect and proper use of the English language. How far, I wonder, must the common denominator be lowered before everyone is “comfortable.” If some had their way our conversations would be reduced to the occasional grunt or groan, as we make our way through the filth on all fours.

By the way, if vegetarians often come off sounding smarter than their beef-eating brethren, it’s because they are - some five IQ points to be exact. This is a generalization of course, but the facts are conclusive per a British study carried out over the course of 20 years. Here is evidence for those who remain skeptical: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article...tudy/article.do