rvalkass
Aug 23 2007, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 23 2007, 05:12 AM)  As soon as Linux becomes popular hackers will make customized viruses for Linux only. At the moment there are around 100 viruses that can affect Linux, compared to over 100,000 viruses that attack Windows PCs. Yes, as Linux becomes more popular it is likely that more viruses will be written for it. However, there is a large difference between Windows and Linux. On Windows, whatever sort of account you are using you have access to Windows files and settings. On Linux, your standard account has access to your own documents and user settings, and thats about it. If a virus did get onto a Linux system, it could not destroy the heart of the operating system. Regular backups make sure that your files are always safe. Ubuntu is often seen as more secure because you can't log in as root. You can only run one command at a time as root, and that requires you to retype your user password. You can even remove that ability from your everyday account, and just keep another account for performing system changes. QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 23 2007, 05:12 AM)  And I don't know much about GNU Agreement but if you give out your source code of an operating system to the public, aren't you pretty much asking to be hacked into?
Soon Linux would become like Microsoft, releasing a package and fix for every little vulnerabilities.... As far as I'm aware, both the Linux source code and most of the distributions based on it regularly release security patches and updates. Having the source code available makes the operating system more secure, as thousands of people are looking at it and checking for bugs and security vulnerabilities. Security issues have been known to be fixed within minutes of them appearing. Compare this to Windows, where only a select few developers in Redmond have access to the source code. Yes, you can report an issue, but you can't actively do anything to fix it.
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birudagmawi
Aug 24 2007, 04:14 AM
QUOTE having the source code available makes the operating system more secure I STRONGLY disagree with that. The same freedom that lets people modify a program to upgrade can also be used to maliciously and eailsy find holes in the system, and anyone who ignores that problem is making a big mistake. QUOTE thousands of people are looking at it and checking for bugs and security vulnerabilities. While I agree that the more people contribute to secure a OS makes it a lot better than a few private developers doing a 300-man job,thousands more are figuring out a way to get in to the OS, this is one of the main disadvantages if Open source applications. Since their code is open to the public, there will always be someone, somewhere on earth that will do anything to compromise the integrity of the system, developers of Open source application would be forced to play a never ending cat and mouse game with hackers. One finds a hole in the security and plugs it up, while one opens a new hole, you close the door and they open a window. You create a solution while they create problems. Get what I mean? How would you stop that problem? You reply me a real useful and reasonable solution to that predicament and I will format my PC right now and install my Kubuntu.
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truefusion
Aug 24 2007, 06:43 AM
QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 24 2007, 12:14 AM)  Since their code is open to the public, there will always be someone, somewhere on earth that will do anything to compromise the integrity of the system, developers of Open source application would be forced to play a never ending cat and mouse game with hackers. One finds a hole in the security and plugs it up, while one opens a new hole, you close the door and they open a window. You create a solution while they create problems. Get what I mean? How would you stop that problem? If i'm not mistaken (and i know i'm not  ), though being closed-source, Microsoft Windows has the problem you have stated above with its OS. Microsoft also has a problem with their OS being pirated. One of Microsft's attempt in stopping this was trying to limit one's copy of Windows to one computer, if not, you would have to (re-)register your copy of Windows. Also, you yourself have mentioned: QUOTE As soon as Linux becomes popular hackers will make customized viruses for Linux only. [...]Soon Linux would become like Microsoft, releasing a package and fix for every little vulnerabilities... But, of course, nothing is 100% secure. As it stands, open source and closed source can be equally insecure, but open source has become a community, where there appears to be more programmer's helping each other than destroying each other. QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 24 2007, 12:14 AM)  You reply me a real useful and reasonable solution to that predicament and I will format my PC right now and install my Kubuntu. You don't have to fully format your PC to use Linux. You can just create a new partition and install it there. Unlike Windows, Linux "allows" other operating systems to be accessible on the same system. Windows overwrites the MBR without any care for other operating systems on the system. And since you mention Kubuntu, you can try out the distro before installing it on your system, being a LiveCD.
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birudagmawi
Aug 24 2007, 10:46 PM
Look its not that I HATE Linux, I love it, heck I use Damn Small Linux almost everyday but its just not practical as a primary Operating System. QUOTE but open source has become a community, where there appears to be more programmer's helping each other than destroying each other. Simply not true.There are thousands of forums,sites,blogs, and wiki's out there that offer the same level of support, my favorite being the MSFN(Microsoft Software Forum Network) which has no affiliation with Microsoft but still create OPEN Source programs like Revolutions Pack, Unofficial Service Pack for 9x/2000/XP as well as other programs. Just because MS is CLOSED source doesn't mean there isn't the same level, if not better support for the Operating System
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dre
Aug 24 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE Unlike Windows, Linux "allows" other operating systems to be accessible on the same system. Windows overwrites the MBR without any care for other operating systems on the system. No, linux just installs a program to try and handle multi-os booting.
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truefusion
Aug 25 2007, 01:01 AM
QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 24 2007, 06:46 PM)  ... but its just not practical as a primary Operating System. I don't understand how it isn't. My Linux OS can do everything i can do in Windows (and more), and some of this stuff Windows doesn't even come with pre-installed. Linux may not be the best for gamers, and i'm not much of a PC gamer, but gaming isn't what makes an operating system practical. Practical would fall into media and internet: music, e-mail, graphics or images, video, IM, documents, etc.—all of this Linux can do. Plus, even some governments in the east are switching to Linux and Dell allows you to choose whether to have Ubuntu or Windows pre-installed into the system. QUOTE(birudagmawi @ Aug 24 2007, 06:46 PM)  Simply not true. May i ask what's not true about it besides what it can imply? I feel that you've just simply added to what i had to say, which i won't disagree with. QUOTE(dre @ Aug 24 2007, 07:28 PM)  No, linux just installs a program to try and handle multi-os booting. I know, but it's the same thing, right?  I mean, i don't think i've seen a distro that doesn't install either GRUB or LILO.
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birudagmawi
Aug 25 2007, 04:41 AM
Lets just put this to rest. The following are my final thoughts on this topicL 1)While Open source Ubuntu Offers a better community and developer support it still gives away its source code to hackers who can easily reverse engineer it 2)Ubuntu and its cousin Os's are all great operating system for beginners and moderate computer users, otherwise, you will be having a lot of trouble when installing Microsoft Friendly softwares, unless you are willing to compromise for Linux Friendly Open source software. 3) Dell giving put Ubuntu as a Pre-Installed option is great for us, but to them its just a big PR stunt to put them on the headlines, but who cares, Linux is on a Major PC Manufacturer Cool! And I am done....
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mabhishekjhawar
Aug 29 2007, 07:18 PM
hey i have loads of UBUNTU cds to distribute here in india. open source rulz.. but i hardly use linux becoz i m addicted to windows. but i like mac and ubuntu for virus free.
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iGuest
Nov 15 2007, 08:13 PM
Well,I started using linux to years back,when windows slacked like anything on my comp,started with mandriva then to fedora and now to ubuntu.Just installed gutsy gibson edition of ubuntu,It's great.Thanx to all the coders out there working for the people to get open softwares. I just like the way it works from installation to features.I usually do a lot of programming and the tools provided in linux destros help with that without extra softwares which I have to download in windows. To birudagmawi : Well you see linux was made by programmers around the world who thought that it's inappropriate to spend money on an operating system when they can build one of their own.Linux was never made for normal user it was made by people who have the zeal to learn for those who want to learn .But due to the growing popularity of linux it became a buzz word among common Pc users also. Thats why it's becoming as simpler as it could be to the common user with each realese(you should see the installation feature of the ubuntu,windows cant be compared with it).It takes time to bring a change. And regarding the viruses,Ya I surely agree that viruses are going to increase in linux,but it will not increase at rate with which it increases it increases in windows because linux kernel is much better built than windows. And as far as your concern for hacking linux is concerned I should give you example of APACHE web server which is an open source web server and is much more popular then windows counter part in terms of security, Open source doesn't make software vunerable to hackers it is the software design which matters more. Well I see my friends who once were addicted to windows have started using linux they like the idea of having the orignal copy without paying a single penny and too less configuration needed,Although they had problems in the beginning. And dell policy is not a public stunt it's a demand of the people which has made them to bring out a laptop with ubuntu so that they can capture linux users also and decrease the price of laptop to remain competitive. -AcumenWorks
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zamaliphe
Dec 3 2007, 01:44 AM
CODE I think the Ubuntu family are among the easiest distros to use, especially for those just starting out in the Linux world.
The installation is fairly easy and installing software using the relevant package manager is far easier than most distros, and
miles ahead of installing software on Windows i also think that Ubuntu is among the easiest distros to use but i dont like it i use debian inested and i think that debian is mutch moor stable and safe for me
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