adriantc
Mar 18 2006, 01:45 PM
It has been over 2 years since the next generation operating system has been in development and there are many voices saying that Windows Vista has too much eye-candy then our CPU and RAM can afford. And they seem to be true. Bill Gates and Microsoft seem to forget that we don't have 52 billion $ to spend on hi-tech computers. I have a AMD Athlon64 3000+, 1GB RAM, nVIDIA 6600 128Mb Video Card and I don't even dream to change my computer (or some part of it) for at least an year. Returning to the subject ... I downloaded the lastest Windows Vista build (5308) which is thought to have all the features that the final version will have (for those of you that forgot ... Windows Vista is due for launch at the end of 2006 - beginning of 2007). And since I have an AMD Athlon64 CPU I said that I should try the x64 build. Compared to the last build I tried which had 1,5GB (a November build), this Vista build has over 3,5 GB (that means the final version will probably have a full DVD). You are probably wondering if the extra 2 GB are worth the extra time necessary to download it. The answer is NO. I have found out that the extra 2GB is nothing but tons of x64 drivers (which means they are garbage). I have an normal computer nothing to fancy about it. A Lexmark x1190 Printer and a TV Tuner (and the basic stuff). There isn't any Microsoft drivers for those two even in Windows Xp not to mention in Windows Vista x64 Edition so you can see why the extra 2GB are worthless. I tried to install Vista. I had some serious problems just after the first boot, some 40 minutes of installing. There was no fancy Windows Vista icon to welcome me into the next generation OS, just a BSOD (for those not familiar to the term, even though i'm sure everyone has seen one BSOD is the Blue Screen Of Death... the screen that shows you that Windows has crashed and that there is nothing you can do to stop it  ). So yeah just after the first boot I got this BSOD. Booted again and after a minute or so a BSOD again. And no matter how much I tried after I a minute or so a BSOD teminated the next generation OS. I'm currently downloading the x86 version (which I hope will work better). Well there was one thing I noticed in that minute I had the Vista desktop infront of my eyes. It sure has a lot of eye-candy. Aero Glass and the transparency (which is now turned on by default... if you have a new video card) make Windows Vista look fancy. In other words the UI is great. But regarding the rest of the features... well that's another story. it ate 500mb from my ram whithout any software installed and the CPU was at 10% in idle. So the question is... Will you give over 150$ for a more fancy Windows? Do you value performance over eye-candy? all over thsi thread I said "next generation OS", but is seems it is only next generation by the eye candy and the number of huge bugs it has (another Windows Millennium maybe). I hope that if the x86 version will work as supposed to I will have more information for you regarding this build.
Reply
tt3
Mar 18 2006, 01:56 PM
I shan't be buying Vista for a while yet. Partly because my system isn't good enough to run the operating system, and also because I want to wait for everyone else to find the bugs and then purchase Vista SP1! I should point out that as you are fully aware, this product is in beta and so will have bugs. Upon it's release in November, I highly doubt the OS will be as buggy or resource hungry. At least I hope not anyway. And Vista has many new features, it isn't merely a new look for Windows XP!
Reply
rvalkass
Mar 18 2006, 03:04 PM
I won't get Vista for a while yet, and that's only if they stop support for Windows XP, which they have done in the past with other OSs. Yes, their new theme looks nice, but it's not really necessary, and if it's eating a load of resources then theres no point. As a matter of fact, you can download a shell pack for Windows XP to make it look like the Aero Glass theme, but I can't remember where to download it.
Reply
zdrigui
Mar 20 2006, 05:20 PM
you can download it at www.crystalxp.net  I will install final version of vista when it come out to market , at this time i have installed a beta version but still exists some programs that don´t run in windows xp.
Reply
tdktank59
Mar 21 2006, 03:05 AM
My dads on the windows whate ever you call it where we can get the stuff straing for them while paying money per month... or at least his work is but he got vista for me so i could test it!!! (i like to test new things and that sort of stuff) its crap... just windows xp all over again with a few things like a mac... its really lame lol a few things i found i liked were under the drives and stuff it told you how full it was with a cool bar that fills up!!! nicer/cleaner aspect very nice task bar and stuff the task bar is pretty cool instead of having that anoying bars that keep poping out and stuff it just opens a list in taht part and does that till you get to what you want i think its cool at least lol... things i hated or dislike... unstable (expected with beta stuff) tooo much like windows xp... we need a revolution here not a evolution as someone put it.... (i think it was me...) theres jsut way to many things lol... so ill stop here before i just go on flaming microsoft like i normaly do...
Reply
adriantc
Mar 27 2006, 07:07 PM
This is an update to my last post... Well I downloaded and (tried) to install Windows Vixta (x86). Once again, just after the install process has ended and before the first boot I got a BSOD. Just like with the last (x64) version there was no way I could run it for more then a minute or so. It seems it has Microsoft written all over it...  After searching all over the internet for people experiencing the same problems with me it seems there is a pattern for this problems. Most of the people (99%) can install and run Windows normally (or at least as you would expect for a beta release), but there is a small group of people that have a AMD CPU and share the same problems. That is the element that seems to be the root of the problem. Still there is no valid explination for why the november build worked just fine...  ...Guess I'll have to wait until the end of the year to finaaly check Vista...
Reply
Kioku
Mar 28 2006, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(zdrigui @ Mar 20 2006, 12:20 PM)  you can download it at www.crystalxp.net I will install final version of vista when it come out to market , at this time i have installed a beta version but still exists some programs that don´t run in windows xp. Thanks. I was trying to find a URL for that. I want to try out Vista some time and this might just be my chance.
Reply
michaelper22
Mar 28 2006, 11:55 PM
In my house we generally don't buy computers with very new operating systems (only one exception). I got my XP machine in 2005 - that shows it. I don't think I will see Vista on a desktop in my house for quite a while, especially since my father probably isn't ready to support it. I sort of like Aero Glass, but really - how does it improve the way you work (or play, in which case it may do more harm than good) on your machine?
Reply
FLaKes
Mar 29 2006, 12:02 AM
Then why would you waste your time downloading and fighting with a useless operating system? The last thing I heard about Vista is that they were going to have to reprogram over 60% of their code due to some multimedia problems they were having. I would definitely rather play a game over caring about windows bugs that I wont care about untill I actually have that Operating systems.
Reply
amhso
Mar 29 2006, 01:17 AM
a few months ago they trashed their code and had to recode like 80% of vista (longhorn) because of a ton of errors. Flakes you are right. All-in-all.....if you guys are using windows just for vista....it's a waste of time. It's mostly neat-o graphic desktop..which you can do in linux without paying premium.
Reply
humanisfilth
Nov 5 2006, 06:07 AM
Vista is too little, too late. I saw the the press conference where they announced the switch from "longhorn" to Vista. That in itself was a desperate attempt to distract everyone from the fact that they haven't released anything meaningful since XP - but it did give the next generation O/S concept a 2nd chance in the market place. Was everyone rewarded for their patience and understanding? LOL...hardly. It's quite true that 80% was recoded...what's scarier is how much was cut and abandoned so they could release SOMETHING! They're just so behind schedule with this product release that they're forced to evolve rather than revolutionize. That's actually not a bad thing really, given their really awful QA system. Let Vista go to market...I guarantee it will be just like ME (Windows ceMEnt) and die an awful, awful death. But SO many bugs will get shaken out! Then, in the next release - you'll see real changes...rife with new bugs...but 6 months from then I anticipate something wonderful - provided there's affordable hardware to support it!!! They do seem to keep forgetting that people can't keep upgrading their entire computer system every year. My advice for most of you is to hang onto your present machine and ENJOY IT. Save up all your nickles and pennies until mid year 2008 and THEN buy a whole new machine. I expect by then that they'll have something really keen to show off.
Reply
wacky_stu
Sep 20 2006, 12:48 AM
I installed windows Vista a month or so ago. It was terrible nothing was compatible and this message continoulsy popped up up demanding the office 2007 cd. After becoming totally fedup with this new windows I decided I wanted my old windows back. Sadly this could only be achieved by formatiing my entire hard disk, then dopinga clean installation of windows XP. Word of advice: Dont install Windows Vista unless you are totally sure you can be bothered running the risk of having to reformat your entire Hard drisk. To be honest I dont even think the windows Vista was a big step up from XP.
Reply
MIGUE2k7
Sep 4 2006, 02:22 AM
And what would happen if something goes wrong with Vista? would i need to reinstall XP and all my stuff would be lost? I want to check it out but im not sure how that works.
Reply
mtvoyagers
Sep 4 2006, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(stingray001 @ Sep 3 2006, 06:08 PM) It is very unstable, don't download or buy it yet. You can't buy it yet, and its still a beta, why must you waste peoples time reading it if its pointless.
Reply
Recent Queries:--
some dangerous viruses detected in your system. windows vista (tm) ultimate files corrupted - 5.21 hr back. (1)
-
stuurprogramma lexmark x1190 vista - 8.83 hr back. (1)
-
"some dangerous viruses detected in your system. windows vista (tm)" - 15.12 hr back. (1)
-
vista windows eating all my memory when using media player - 41.44 hr back. (1)
-
some dangerous viruses detected in your system. windows vista files corrupted - 46.66 hr back. (1)
-
why cant i install lexmark x1190 on my laptop - 48.65 hr back. (1)
-
vista build 7000 - 51.16 hr back. (3)
-
lexmark printer make any confilict with vista booting - 52.88 hr back. (1)
-
lexmark error 100.01 - 79.22 hr back. (1)
-
some dangerous files in your system. windows vista (tm) ultimate files corrupted. - 111.57 hr back. (1)
-
whate is aero on vista - 121.30 hr back. (1)
-
thsi program requires at least 3mb of free virtual memory to run - 122.50 hr back. (1)
-
download free driver stampante lexmark x1190 x vista - 170.18 hr back. (1)
-
warning some dangerous viruses detected in your system.microsoft windows files corupted - 203.63 hr back. (1)
Similar Topics
Keywords : windows, vista, build, 5308, happening, windows
- Converting Audio Files In Vista
how do you do it? (7)
Windows Movie Maker
(0) How do I capture Audio/Video in Windows movie maker under Vista ?? I use to have a capture button in
the movie maker that comes with XP but I can't find it anymore with the movie maker that came
with vista ? Does anyone know a good program that I can use to capture video ?....
Windows Explorer Crashes Consistantly [resolved]
closes itself down after leaving on for a few minutes (6) This is a constant problem whenever I try sorting my files, suddenly Windows Explorer shuts itself
down by calling in Dr. Watson. Then restarts and repeats again after awhile. It doesn't happen
all the time, but the crash problem comes frequently and I have no idea how to diagnose the problem.
Appreciate the help. If any of this should be of useful info, I'm still using Windows XP Pro
Edition SP1 and using IE 6 (not intending to update this because of complaints i get from other
people regarding SP 2 and IE 7. The same goes with Vista.)....
How Do I Autostart Programs On Startup
In Windows (1) I know Windows automatically register new installations to autostart on startup. I have installed
Mozilla Thunderbird, but apparently, I can't find the option to actually get it to autostart, I
have to keep opening it every time I switch on my laptop. How can I configure Windows to accept
Thunderbird as a autostart program?....
Ctrl + C Will Not Work
Windows Xp Pro SP2 (17) I recently built a computer, everything seems to be alright with it, except one thing, CTRL + C just
won't work. I'm running a Windows Windows Xp Pro SP2, and Ctrl + X and Ctrl + V work fine.
I mean, I could probably just cut and paste anything I want to copy but it seems like such a hassle.
Has anyone came across this problem before? Or know how to fix it?....
Windows Live Cd
How do u create a windows live disk? (18) I have come across a lot Live CDs for different variants of Linux. I was just wondering if the same
thing can be done for windows OS. And how can this be done? Please need it urgently.....
Check Windows Xp-based Pc Can Run Windows Vista
(3) Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor analyses your XP based PC f whether it can run Windows Vista and if so
which edition of Vista can be run in your system. This small software tool will scan your computer
and create an easy-to-understand report of all known system, device, and program compatibility
issues, and recommend ways to resolve them. Upgrade Advisor can also help you choose the edition of
Windows Vista that best fits the way you want to use your computer. The Windows Vista Upgrade
Advisor works with 32-bit versions of Windows XP and it will not work with Windows 98,....
Vista Development Is Completed
(22) Microsoft has finished the development of Windows Vista and its Testing Process. They've sent it
for manufacturing. Now we've to wait for Microsoft to announce the Release date for Windows
Vista. I started to love Vista and its cool features along with the enticing theme, when I got the
Beta Version. I'm eagerly waiting to get my hands on Windows Vista Ultimate Edition as I dont
want my OS to lack any features.....
Turned Pc On Server. Now I Need Help!
how to use windows server (2) hi everyone,
I
have just installed Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 in my pc. Now, how can I use it online as
server?? I mean how can my computer host a domain in http?
....
Need Help With Mac's Bootcamp Beta
I need windows (2) First of i want to state this is my first mac and i have been using a PC for probably since i was
4-5 which was 11-12 years ago. I have never used a mac, except for in school rarely, in all that
time. I am a college student majoring in graphic design and had to get a Mac. I do have to say i
like them a lot. Sorry, i am getting off topic. I just wanted to show you that i am not stealing
what so ever. I own one desktop computer with Windows XP Home and my laptop with Windows XP Media
Center Edition. The only problem is that i bought the computer with Windows XP preloaded o....
Windows 98se Computer Has Messed Up And Won't Load
Problem fixed now, please disregard this topic. (13) Ok, I got a problem. Recently, an old Windows 98SE computer my friend has, messed up. All the DOS
programs that were on the computer, started claiming that they were out of memory, and after he shut
it down, he went on it later only to find that he cannot load Windows because there is "Insufficient
Memory to Initialise" it! There is nothing wrong with the hard drive, however - I tried to use
Safe Mode on his computer recently and it worked fine (with some restrictions, of course). I
personally think it could be a problem with how much Virtual Memory has been allowed....
Performance About New Windows Vista
(3) This is one article from performance of New Windows Vista. QUOTE Performance Windows Vista is
designed to help make you more productive as you work with your PC throughout the day with new
features like Sleep, Windows SuperFetch, Windows ReadyBoost, and Windows ReadyDrive. Windows
SuperFetch helps manage memory to get the most out of available RAM while Windows ReadyBoost helps
make PCs more responsive by using flash memory devices (like USB thumb drives) to boost performance.
Windows ReadyDrive takes advantage of new hybrid hard disks—hard disks with integrated f....
Gates: Vista On Target For January Sales
(4) QUOTE MICROSOFT Corp Chairman Bill Gates said the company expects to meet a target of getting
its next version of Windows software, known as Vista, on store shelves by January. "The chance
that we will hit January for Vista looks to be 80 percent at this point," Gates told Microsoft
clients in Cape Town, South Africa yesterday, Bloomberg News reported. "Even though the amount of
investment we've put in over the various years is probably 8, 9 billion dollars," the release
will be delayed if it isn't functioning optimally, he said. Microsoft on June 29 said....
Windows Update - I Have Had Two New Updates For A While - Question?
Should I install these updates or not? Read Below..... (3) I have read the thread about how dangerous Windows XP Service Pack 3 is since there has not been a
Beta out for it yet. But I have had two Automatic Updates pending and I have not installed them
yet. There is just that little yellow shield like icon the taskbar asking me to install every once
in a while. The updates that it wants me to install are: Microsoft GDI+ Detection TOol (KB873374)
Size: 214 KB Windows Genuine Advantage Notification (KB905474) Size: 1.0 MB If anybody else has
downloaded these updates and installed them can you tell me if it is alright for me ....
Computer Is Slowing Down And Skipping
Every program, even windows has lag.... (12) My computer has been slowly getting slower by the moment, I have no current internet connection but
I've had one before. I've ran every anti-virus program I could think off. It seemed to speed
up my computer, but only slightly in a few programs, but windows, for example display properties
would take over a minute. I figured it could be a hardware issue, but I don't know where to
start, I ran a bad sector scan and my harddrive and it found plenty bad sectors that it had to
rewrite. What could be causing this and how do I fix it or make sure it is my hard drive....
What Happens To A File When You Delete It From Windows ?
(14) now have you ever wondered what happens to a file when you delete it and empty the recycle bin ?
surely it should not be in the computer by then ?? well i ahd a big sprise waiting for today morning
when i turned on my computer , i will tell you waht happened , yesterday a colleague of mine put sum
flash files on my desktop and when i went home i deleted them and emptied recycle bin assuming he
should have made a copy and has taken to his computer , but when i turned on my office computer this
morning the files i deleted were sitting right on my desktop again !! b....
Microsoft Windows Vista
Areo Glass Help (8) Hi everyone, I am currently running Windows vista on my Toshiba Satalite Notebook. My Notebook is
about 2 years old now (late 2004 model) and the glass effects on Microsoft Windows Vista will not
work. My laptop specs are: Mobile Intel Pentium CPU 2.80 GHz (Which is actualy a very good
processor) 640MB System Usable RAM (With Actualy 756MB installed) 40GB Hard Drive with a 100GB USB
Hard Drive ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 IGP (with 128MB of on board Memory) My specs are actualy not
that bad and the computer is still very good with graphics, very fast, and very responsive.....
Hotspot Virtual Machine Exception_access_violation
conflict between Sun Java and Windows (4) i was just messing around as usual on the net, and when i was closing everything down, i noticed
this file on my desktop 'hs_err_pid3672' its a text file, i have no idea what it is and cant
understand anything in it, but its kinda freakin me out, so i would appreciate anything you guys
have to say about it CODE # # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual
Machine: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7c9010f3, pid=3672,
tid=1928 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_06-b05 mixed mode, shar....
Windows Xp Sp3 - High Alert
DO NOT DOWNLOAD (11) Taken from http://forums.mooo.com QUOTE Please do not download Windows SP3, as it is not
even confirmed yet and no betas were released yet. If you have downloaded, you can realise that it
is full of hotfixes and security updates. Those hotfixes and security updates are not meant for you,
BUT FOR THOSE WHO ASK FOR ASSISSTANT IN MICROSOFT WEBSITE TO SOLVE CERTAIN PROBLEM. In this, i can
conclude that the preview is actually destroying your computer instead of upgrading your computer.
There are a lot of questions regarding about the preview : Q : Why is there s....
Ditch Windows For Linux?
(9) Hey. In the vent forum I have been spending some time sharing problems with my windows pc. I have
windows ME, and it used to run great, but it getting worse and worse and worse. I can switch to
Windows 2000 which I have a copy of (never tried it) or re-format and stick with ME (in which case
I'm fairly confident it will slowly over a period of 1-2 years again become unusable. But Linux
I've heard is free and lightweight. Also, consider me not entirely interested in a Mac. They
can be more stable than Windows (though I think XP is fairly equal to a mac in stabili....
My Windows Xp Got Deactivated... Help!
(5) i'm still sober from the ending of the semester and me failing some of my subjects, but here i
am still being battered with so many problems, especially now that the windows xp home installed in
my pc has been deactivated after we have replaced the motherboard. how bad can my life get? the
warning of our windows being deactivated started last week when my older brother replaced the
motherboard with a new one after the old one got burnt because it couldn't handle being ON for
like 12 hours. i was still able to use it for three days and now it has been deactivated....
Hackers Get Mac Running Windows
and Apple thought it can't be done... (25) Hackers get Mac running Windows ... and Apple thought it can't be done! /smile.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> a bounty of $13,854
(£7,895) was "what broke the camel's back", so to speak. /tongue.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> twas a "profitable"
motivation enough for two "hackers" to do the "seemingly impossible" task. now, the word "hacker"
may raise red flags all around, and some who are brainwashed by media's definition of the word
(#4 below) may bri....
Super-fast Start And Shutdown Windows (within Seconds)
hibernate instead of shut down (25) I just wanted to share this tip for all those guyz who hate to wait for windows to boot up and load
into memory.. And not only that, after booting, it starts loading all the startup programs into
memory. If you are also fed up doing this, You can use the HIBERNATE option. :-) All you have
to do is, configure your PC to use HIBERNATE instead of SHUTDOWN. About Hibernation, QUOTE
Hibernation is a state in which your computer shuts down to save power but first saves everything in
memory on your hard disk. When you restart the computer, your desktop is restore....
Where To Get Codecs?
Windows media player (9) I have few videos but to watch them I need to download codec, I have tryed a lot of codecs but none
of them worked /sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> , I have newest
version of Windows media player. So can anyone please post or advice any link where are Windows
media player codecs. Please help someone.......
Sound Help
sound won't play on Windows Media Player (4) Hey I have a problem playing sound on my computer. I have 2 Players right now and they are Windows
Media Player 10 and Nero Showtime. I can only play sound on Nero Showtime and not Windows Media
Player 10. I have no idea why. Could anybody please help me solve this problem.....
Windows Update Trouble
Office XP Service Pack 3 (7) I tried downloading Office XP Service Pack 3 And when I try to download it I Get this box that pops
up QUOTE Title says: Microsoft Office XP Professional with FrontPage The feature you are
trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click ok to try again, or enter and
alternate path to a folder containing the installation package “PROFLUS.MSI” in the box below Use
source. C:\Documents and settings\Owner\Desktop (In a drop Down Menu) Then there is
3 options (OK, Cancel, Browse…) Kind of puzzled as to how I could install the win....
What Do U Prefer Mac Or Windows
computer (60) so what do u prefer windows or mac To tell u the truth i think windows is the worst thing ever
made and i want to kill lt..... it crashes,frezees and u can easally get viruses so i went out and
brought a appl mac g4 powerbook Its great i dont get viruses (even thoughh i have no virus
protection or firewall) it doesnt crash or freeze and its absoulty great. /smile.gif'
border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> /smile.gif' border='0'
style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> /smile.gif' border='0'
style='vertical-align:middle' al....
Restoring Old Setting In Windows98
Restoring old setting in your windows 98 (0) If you are using windows 98 and having encoutered system failure like, not loading windows,
corrupted programs or what... you can still resolve that without having to re-install the whole
windows, but this works only in windows 98. Maybe you guys familiar with this or maybe an expert
when it comes to windows OS. But for those who do not know how to do it, here it goes... First
windows 98 are automatically creates backup or system backup upon starting the windows programs,
this was happen without interrupting the user. This function was creates backup of all windows....
Mac Os X Vs. Windows Xp
Which do you prefer? (23) Start a Revolution on Your Desktop Mac OS X Tiger will change the way you use a computer.
Breakthrough search technology, stunning graphics and media, unparalleled connectivity, an intuitive
user interface and a virtual toolbox chock full of cleverly integrated features — all atop a
rock-solid UNIX foundation — give you the most innovative, stable and compatible desktop operating
system on the planet. Period. THIS WAS TAKEN FROM APPLE.COM On the other hand windows is used by
bassically everyone... WHICH WILL WIN???....
Windows Xp Hacks/tweaks
If you have any, to the registry or MS programs, post here (4) Well to start the topic off here is one that some of you guys might like: Extending your screen
real estate with virtual desktops At any point during the day, i might be writing software,
listening to music, purchasing computer equipment, messing with my mp3 player and sofware, playing
computer games. Sometimes I'm doing all those things at once. It's a wonder that i can
keep all the windows organized. Forunately, i dont have to do all the organizing myself. Virtual
Desktop Manager (VDM) gives me a way to organize the work I'm doing, using up to fou....
Looking for windows, vista, build, 5308, happening, windows
|
*RANDOM STUFF*
*SIMILAR VIDEOS*
Searching Video's for windows, vista, build, 5308, happening, windows
*MORE FROM TRAP17.COM*
|
advertisement
|
|
