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What Should I Start Learning? - I dont know which i should learn.

canpolitics
Learn HTML first and formost, do not use programs such as frontpage and dreamweaver until you have at least learned the language. Learning HTML before going to a design program lets you learn how things opperate, and gives you a head start when you want to move to more complicated things like PHP and Perl scripting. There are many good books on learning HTML. HTML is quite an easy language to learn, and it won't take you long.

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biscuitrat
I kind of digress. You can learn the workings of HTML through Dreamweaver. It's really simple to use other than Frontpage. It can help you get started if you're stuck by showing the tags as you type. However, learning the code by yourself without help is also important. I found it useful to look at the sources of site with features I liked (most of them navigation) and then I tried to replicate the code and personalize it. It may have been a poor choice at the time, but it did help me out a bit.

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Lessur
I would start off with basic html, it is the basic of mostly all webpages.

If you want to get a program to make a website I would start off with Microsoft Front Page or Macromedia Dreamweaver, they are both fairly easy to use if you want to create a basic webpage/site.

Build on that website and then maby learn some javascript or PHP. Both are very common on the net.

For graphics I would use Macromedia Fireworks if you have Dreamweaver, and if you have Front page just any graphic program will work.

Just remember, start off really basic.


-- Hope this helps. smile.gif

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Static_Fury
QUOTE(biscuitrat @ Jul 27 2005, 01:38 PM)
Definitely start with HTML by finding a help site online or a book if you have a library or bookstore close to you (you may want to stick with used books because a lot of brand new manuals can be expensive).

Second, download a trial of Dreamweaver from macromedia.com. This will give you time to sample the software before you make a big move and buy it (it's rather expensive :/). Dreamweaver is probably the easiest editor I've seen, although I do prefer hand writing the code myself. It comes with practice smile.gif

Third, make a basic webpage with text, maybe a background color, and a few links. Then, build off of it every day. Add pictures one day, tables another, etc. Keep good design habits and don't choose too many images, too many links, or outlandish colors. Until you get the hang of it, you want your page to be accessible so simple is probably the way to go.

Fourth, I'd recommend learning CSS to get great control over your site. Through this, you can eliminate the need for having "font" tags, certain attribute tags, and you get to use div layers which will probably eliminate your dependency on tables.

Fifth, if you wish, learn PHP for a more advanced look at your webdesign. It may be hard to learn but it's worth it in the long run if you want to create scripts and sites that people can truly interact with. I also recomment trying MySQL at this point so you can learn how to use databases. It's really a simple process when you get the hang of it. If you want to learn Javascript, don't go overboard with it. A site full of Java is no fun.

Sixth, always validate your site at w3.org. This way, you can make sure that your code is correct. You can validate your CSS and perhaps upgrade to using XHTML (not much different than HTML, but you'll need to change around a few of your tags).

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Images:
I recommend using Adobe Photoshop (trial downloads at adobe.com) or Macromedia Fireworks (trial downloads at macromedia.com) for creating your images. I've heard Jasc Paint Shop Pro is also good but I haven't personally tried it. Don't make your files too big so you can save space for what counts - the pages biggrin.gif
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There are so many things you can do through your cPanel. You can install a great number of scripts to help you create your site, like forums, formmail (should be built-in), and the random gallery softwares. Just explore, learn and enjoy! Hope I helped smile.gif
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Thank you this really helped out alot. I am learning html, i am designing on and really kinda pushing my skills; few as they may be. I was using frams, and desinging one using tables. Pretty basic stuff, i know. Then i was planning on learning CSS, but i was lost after that. And i have photoshop7 does it make a big difference if it is pro or not? And thank you for leading me the next way. I did not know HTML was the base of the rest of the lang. And i did have a question about the validation thing. I seen it on alot of site saying they were validated. Thank you that was a huge question for me. I am current ly using TEW webcoding to do my work on; its free and i dont really understan ALOT of the things on it. But i will try and get the other programs that are better.


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biscuitrat
QUOTE(Static_Fury @ Jul 27 2005, 05:51 PM)
Thank you this really helped out alot. I am learning html, i am designing on and really kinda pushing my skills; few as they may be. I was using frams, and desinging one using tables. Pretty basic stuff, i know. Then i was planning on learning CSS, but i was lost after that. And i have photoshop7 does it make a big difference if it is pro or not? And thank you for leading me the next way. I did not know HTML was the base of the rest of the lang. And i did have a question about the validation thing. I seen it on alot of site saying they were validated. Thank you that was a huge question for me. I am current ly using TEW webcoding to do my work on; its free and i dont really understan ALOT of the things on it. But i will try and get the other programs that are better.
Thank you ALL
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You're very welcome. Feel free to post your first few sites in the HTML forum (I think that's a good place to post them, if you want post credits). We'd love to see them.

I started out with tables too. I thought that was as far as I'd get. I did experiment with frames, but if you don't do them the right way, they can get annoying. It's nice to know at any rate.

If you want a basic site, I wouldn't really go beyond the CSS. Not many people really want to mess with PHP and MySQL, which is understandable. I was messing around with a template for my forum and I felt so insecure messing with the PHP because I didn't really know what I was doing.

It doesn't really make a difference about which version of Photoshop you're using as long as you're satisfied with the results. Photoshop CS is pretty nice, but Photoshop 7 will do the job rather swankily.

Validation is just a way of checking your steps. It just helps it to be viewed by certain types of browsers. It's pretty important for more visited sites because otherwise, you could have a really horrible page on one end and a perfect page on the other. It's not at all something customers would like to see sad.gif

Whatever you're using is probably fine. I haven't heard of it but I can go look it up. You don't have to have Dreamweaver or Frontpage. You can just do your thing with simple old Notepad but sometimes, being able to see your work as you're doing it really helps you out.

Anyways, good luck with your learning smile.gif It's an awesome step you're taking and it's really worthwhile.

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Sprnknwn
Start with the basics. HTML is the best option. You can either try to learn it with a tutorial (as they said, there are millions on the Internet) and when you know the fundaments, try Dreamweaver. You can also try Dreamweaver first and then learn HTML but, although this is a easier way, youīll assimilate the code better the other way. Frontpage itīs easier to use than DW but I would forget about it, because is a unnecessary step to me.

I would forget by the moment any other things, specially if you are a noob smile.gif

My advice, donīt desperate... sometimes it requires a lot of patience to understand why things happen when you write codes (even HTML which is realtively easy). Good luck!

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mizako
Some useful links to begin with:
- HTML, CSS : htmldog.com
- A little bit of everything: wc3schools.com
- PHP: php.net -> Manual
- mysql: mysql.com ->Tutorial chapter of the manual
- selfhtml.org -> In german. No english version. :-(
but Deutsch, Spanish, japanische, french versions.

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ArMs
yo yeah liek BIS said download DREAMWEAVER and start, dreamweaver is mad fun and you will learn a lot of stuff from it. u can make a site using pictures and words and no codes wat so ever thank gods. Codes= boring.lol

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biscuitrat
QUOTE(ArMs @ Jul 28 2005, 10:38 AM)
yo yeah liek BIS said download DREAMWEAVER and start, dreamweaver is mad fun and you will learn a lot of stuff from it. u can make a site using pictures and words and no codes wat so ever thank gods. Codes= boring.lol
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Erm...Maybe you've been stuck in design view instead of code view the whole time but there's really no way you can make a webpage without some form of code going into it. You'll probably want to learn at least some code before you go straight into making the site - at least that way, you can learn ways to make your website better. Dreamweaver's only there to help you make an easy site but it's actually pretty powerful with all the extensions it has. Same as for any hard subject in school: You can't always take the easy way out. But it is true that you can learn a lot from it.

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Styx
Dreamweaver is great. it's what i use all the time for my web designing. but i would start out with frontpage, or some other similar basic editor for html for a start. it's simpler, and it's free. then once you get a working grasp of html you can upgrade to a more robust thingy. i would start with html and then upgrade to PHP. don;t bother with asp unlesss you're looking to get a job with some huge company as they're basically the ones who use it. and then if you have a website written in ASP then hosting is much harder to find, much more expensive, and generally a bad ida. php instead everyone hosts it, there are tons of plugins and scripts for it. AND it's faster and easier to learn.

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