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First to tell you: there is no "web desing language". Desing is one proccess, web development is another. Design is done by desingers (graphics), and development (implementation, programming, coding, markup) is done by developers.Designers use tools like Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, Ilustrator, CorelDraw, GIMP, etc.Developers use languages like HTML, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET, JavaScript. All thos... read more.
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What Should I Start Learning? - I dont know which i should learn.

Static_Fury
I looking to learn a web design lang. and i do not know whati should learn. Basically I am a huge n00b. Please can you tell me the advanteges and disadvanteges of each; and what your opinoin is that i should learn.

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Nani Cheri
start with downloading design programs such as...Dreamweaver, Frontpage, or whatever you think is best. You probably want nice buttons and rollover effects, then you need to install programs like Paint Shop Pro, Fireworks, Photoshop for graphic design. You need to know the basic codes from HTML (WebDesign Language) But maybe you already know that. Search on search engines for example google. And you need to know, patience is a must tongue.gif so... I aint a super webdesigner, but I know the basics, and I know some tricks you can do with fireworks and paint shop pro. So if you have any questions. you can contact me and we will see if i can help you.

succes!!

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Nani Cheri
iM SORRY. Im a little too fast with reading lately unsure.gif I didnt understand you were talking about langUAGES!! My bad... but anyway, I'd like too join you, cause I would really like to learn php for example!!! So...trouble for something good afterall

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patelg
QUOTE(Static_Fury @ Jul 27 2005, 10:57 PM)
I looking to learn a web design lang. and i do not know whati should learn. Basically I am a huge n00b. Please can you tell me the advanteges and disadvanteges of each; and what your opinoin is that i should learn.
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First, start learning about web design. Then depending on your interest, i mean either you can start using different scripting languages like PHP/Perl.

If you really want learn the programming then try Java/jsp. Here you will have jsp as scripting language but you will have power of JAVA. With Java you can do many things. There are many free development tools like Eclipse, Netbeans as IDE's. Free servers like Tomcare and free database like MySQL..

Or try ASP/.NET.....

Also, there are thousands of tutorials on web, so start digging and learning

Le me know if u want more info...

 

 

 


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leiaah
If you're going to learn web development I suggest you start off with learning basic HTML since html is the main foundation of all other web scripts.

From HTML you can then try to learn JavaScript and Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) since these two will help you in manipulating the HTML codes to make your site look and act like what you have planned.

JavaScript is a client-side scripting language only, meaning the script gets interpreted by the visitor's browser only. Dealing with server-side scripting language is the next logical step since its very probable that you'll deal with online databases. The scripting language I can recommend is PHP. I'm also a novice in PHP but I find it to be very useful and not that difficult if one has HTML background.

With a server-side scripting language, a database management system is also important. I recommend using MySQL since it works hand in hand with PHP. MySQL uses the basic sql statements in querying data in the databases.

Hope this helps! smile.gif

Hope this helps.

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snlildude87
QUOTE(patelg @ Jul 27 2005, 09:22 AM)
Or try ASP/.NET.....
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Well, if you're planning to get hosting here, then I don't recommend ASP because ASP runs on a Windows, and trap17 servers run on Linux.

I would recommend PHP because there are so many application, scripts, and tutorials available for it. It's also pretty easy, too. Link: http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp

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shigajet
Learning the basics of HTML (Hyper Text Markup Language) is a good start for you to become familiar with some of the code. Of course, a book on how to design web pages makes for a solid reference.
The next step you may want to try is CSS (Cascading Style Sheets), as this can give your website more consistency from page to page - from background colours to the font styles and more.
After that, try diving into some Javascript and/or PHP if you want to make your pages dynamic.

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dunkert
QUOTE(Static_Fury @ Jul 27 2005, 07:57 AM)
I looking to learn a web design lang. and i do not know whati should learn. Basically I am a huge n00b. Please can you tell me the advanteges and disadvanteges of each; and what your opinoin is that i should learn.
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you should start with HTLM its the basic of all the others ASP/JSP/whatever..., You can start by looking at codes on the internet (other websiteS) or if you don't want to get into programming a good software like frontpage should do the trick. In short HTML is a must any book or HTML learning website should do the trick).

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ArMs
start learnign php and web designing and etc it all pays off. and saty off b net.lol its a big waste of time. i am tryign to learn flsh and php but it is so hard and the book r very boring to read.lol

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biscuitrat
Definitely start with HTML by finding a help site online or a book if you have a library or bookstore close to you (you may want to stick with used books because a lot of brand new manuals can be expensive).

Second, download a trial of Dreamweaver from macromedia.com. This will give you time to sample the software before you make a big move and buy it (it's rather expensive :/). Dreamweaver is probably the easiest editor I've seen, although I do prefer hand writing the code myself. It comes with practice smile.gif

Third, make a basic webpage with text, maybe a background color, and a few links. Then, build off of it every day. Add pictures one day, tables another, etc. Keep good design habits and don't choose too many images, too many links, or outlandish colors. Until you get the hang of it, you want your page to be accessible so simple is probably the way to go.

Fourth, I'd recommend learning CSS to get great control over your site. Through this, you can eliminate the need for having "font" tags, certain attribute tags, and you get to use div layers which will probably eliminate your dependency on tables.

Fifth, if you wish, learn PHP for a more advanced look at your webdesign. It may be hard to learn but it's worth it in the long run if you want to create scripts and sites that people can truly interact with. I also recomment trying MySQL at this point so you can learn how to use databases. It's really a simple process when you get the hang of it. If you want to learn Javascript, don't go overboard with it. A site full of Java is no fun.

Sixth, always validate your site at w3.org. This way, you can make sure that your code is correct. You can validate your CSS and perhaps upgrade to using XHTML (not much different than HTML, but you'll need to change around a few of your tags).

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I recommend using Adobe Photoshop (trial downloads at adobe.com) or Macromedia Fireworks (trial downloads at macromedia.com) for creating your images. I've heard Jasc Paint Shop Pro is also good but I haven't personally tried it. Don't make your files too big so you can save space for what counts - the pages biggrin.gif
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There are so many things you can do through your cPanel. You can install a great number of scripts to help you create your site, like forums, formmail (should be built-in), and the random gallery softwares. Just explore, learn and enjoy! Hope I helped smile.gif

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Unregistered 015
First to tell you: there is no "web desing language". Desing is one proccess, web development is another.
Design is done by desingers (graphics), and development (implementation, programming, coding, markup) is done by developers.

Designers use tools like Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, Ilustrator, CorelDraw, GIMP, etc.

Developers use languages like HTML, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET, JavaScript.
All those have different uses. Some are script languages, some are mark-up languages. Some script languages are client-side, while others are server-side languages.

It takes a lot of unsleeped nights to cover all of it, so you might consider learning one of them, OR you might make a comitment to learn them all (design&development).

If you just want to "play" with web sites, then you might try some of many CMS (Content Management System) out there. Google for PHPNuke, Mambo Open Source. Read their documentation, play with them, and see if that is for you.

If you want to go on designer path I recomend Adobe Photoshop or Macromedia Fireworks. Photoshop is more complex but more (if not the most) powerful, while Fireworks is more "user-friendly" and intuitive.

You might try Macromedia Flash too. You probably have seen some flash sites out there and you know what it is about. If not go to http://web.burza.hr/

If you want to program suff for web (like polls, forums, shoping carts, etc.) then you might go for either PHP/MySQL (free) or ASP/MSSQL Server combination. I prefer PHP, and recomend it to noobs (very easy to learn language, with a lots of built-in functions).

You'll also need some databases knowledge (especially relation databases) if you decide to go that way. As I've already said MySQL is best combined with PHP.

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PDG
I think the best programe is MS frontpage. even it may lack some special effects, but it is very powerful for designing even professional web sites. I use this program and i belive it. I also worked with some other programs such as coffie cup, draemviewer and so on..., but the best is MS front page in my openion.

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technocrat
I would suggest

>>> FIRST ! GET VERY VERY VERY GOOOD WITH HTML AND CSS ... cos they form the BASIC for all scripting in thiis internet world . You know GOOD HTMl , n u can start off with others
>>> If you want to become a DESIGNER , learn PHOTOSHOP and DREAMWEAVER
>>> If you want to become a CODER , learn PHP , Jscript and actionscript in flash .

if you know FLASH completely ... i swear u can start rocking like hell

Oh yes .. forgot .. was reading the last few posts ... and had to create a new post .. to let all you people knwo ...

People who thought PHP was only for LINUX and needs to have server access to test / learn .. (* like the person above me *) ... there is a special soft , that is VERY simple and lets you have a virtual PHP + SQL server ( with phpmyadmin ) on your WINDOWS based systems ..

It is called EASYPHP ( google it out to download )
WEBSITE : http://www.easyphp.org/

just download that and get GOING ! wink.gif

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puffy
Hi i should start learning more of wisdom first, rather than prefering other things. After wisdom comes characters and discipline. After this comes rest. I also like to learn more of webdesigning languages like PHp, My SQL, MAcromedia falsh player, dreamweaver, front page, Adobe photoshop and much more and more. MAn i am very much interested in learning PHP and mysql more than others, since it is the most famous language and many prefer it to design there site and it provides good security...

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Sarith Pallewela
Hey why dont you try a Server side language like ASP or PHP smile.gif . It can make your page much more advance, interactive and fun. You can also do alot of cool stuff with these languages. So heres some tips to keep in mind before taking up a language.

ASP:[/B smile.gif ] () Easy to learn and short coding to type
() Windows viewers don't have to install Asp to view site cause ASP is ....................automatically installed in windos.
() Best for Bigginers and has to have a ASP enabled server

[B]PHP:
sad.gif () A bit hard to use and learn
() More advance coding
() Free ware
() Has to have special servers.
() All viewers has to have PHP installed to view page Correctly
Hope this Helps Bye!!!! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

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