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Tae Kwon Do

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In my opinion Tae Kwon Do is the strongest kind of Martial Arts, if you train with the right teacher..

Kickboxing: They do the kicks wrong, they are easy to hit.
Karate: Tae Kwon Do is very like Karate but very different..
Kung Fu: Mostly punches.. Not good defense, easy to ko
Judo: Just a bunch of fat people..

Well.. so discuss

Im black belt on Tae Kwon Do and im proud of it

ps. english isnt my main language

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salamangkero
QUOTE(X_X @ Apr 17 2007, 06:03 AM) *
Kickboxing: They do the kicks wrong, they are easy to hit.
Karate: Tae Kwon Do is very like Karate but very different..
Kung Fu: Mostly punches.. Not good defense, easy to ko
Judo: Just a bunch of fat people..


I would like to point out that masters of their own crafts often deem their own to be the most fundamental and the most powerful of all. For example, my chemistry teacher believes everything, from biology to physics, can be explained by chemistry. My physics professor in college, on the other hand, deemed physics to be the ultimate theory that explains everything. Similarly, black-belters of martial arts often fall into thinking that their own arts are better than anything else.

Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not against taekwondo; fact is, it's the only martial arts I do know enough of. Most are just from third-person accounts and observations.

It would, I think, be a lot more helpful if you detailed how the other martial arts are "weak" in comparison to taekwondo. For example, I do agree that the kicks in kickboxing are different but that does not necessarily mean they are wrong. Also, what is taekwondo's edge over karate? Judo, well, I think it's using your opponent's weight against him/her... I don't really know so I can't comment on that. Kung fu, on the other hand, is considered by many to be the "ultimate" martial arts.

Did you know that kung fu has two parts? One is "hard" kung fu, which is primarily what comes to mind of an average person. The histrionic blocks, leaping kicks and flying punches are parts of "hard" kung fu. "Soft" kung fu, on the other hand, deals with concentrating on the flows of energy (or chakra, for Naruto fans, or nen, for HxH fans) It was, supposedly, capable of killing people without any outwardly apparent assault; this danger is the reason why it is taught to only few people. (I've read this a long time ago, in a newspaper feature article)

So, if you are really convinced that taekwondo is the "strongest" martial art out there, maybe it would help if you actually describe what makes it so happy.gif

 

 

 


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JDameron91
Ah, nice points.

I haven't studied any of them very much, but they all sound pretty neat.

I've heard of people saying that Tae Kwon Doe is the best, but I've also heard other's on the other sides.

So, I don't know, I plan on studying them in the future.

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demonatashadow
QUOTE(salamangkero @ Apr 17 2007, 03:34 AM) *
I would like to point out that masters of their own crafts often deem their own to be the most fundamental and the most powerful of all. For example, my chemistry teacher believes everything, from biology to physics, can be explained by chemistry. My physics professor in college, on the other hand, deemed physics to be the ultimate theory that explains everything. Similarly, black-belters of martial arts often fall into thinking that their own arts are better than anything else.

Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not against taekwondo; fact is, it's the only martial arts I do know enough of. Most are just from third-person accounts and observations.

It would, I think, be a lot more helpful if you detailed how the other martial arts are "weak" in comparison to taekwondo. For example, I do agree that the kicks in kickboxing are different but that does not necessarily mean they are wrong. Also, what is taekwondo's edge over karate? Judo, well, I think it's using your opponent's weight against him/her... I don't really know so I can't comment on that. Kung fu, on the other hand, is considered by many to be the "ultimate" martial arts.

Did you know that kung fu has two parts? One is "hard" kung fu, which is primarily what comes to mind of an average person. The histrionic blocks, leaping kicks and flying punches are parts of "hard" kung fu. "Soft" kung fu, on the other hand, deals with concentrating on the flows of energy (or chakra, for Naruto fans, or nen, for HxH fans) It was, supposedly, capable of killing people without any outwardly apparent assault; this danger is the reason why it is taught to only few people. (I've read this a long time ago, in a newspaper feature article)

So, if you are really convinced that taekwondo is the "strongest" martial art out there, maybe it would help if you actually describe what makes it so happy.gif


lol, thats true people have their own opinion. Like I think Kendo is the best martial arts out there. A friend of mine takes Tai Kwon Do and it does seem affective though.

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darklight
Go tae kwobn do ima black belt

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Furry_homeboy
This is just my opinion of course, but i feel that there isnt neccesary a "best" art. Different arts bring different benefits. It also depends on the goals of the person and how they go about learning as well as how the instructor teaches and what suits the person. TaeKwonDo may be the absolute best and perfect art for one person and completely not fit another person. However, it sounds like you have found an art that fits you perfect. ^.^ Thats good, so keep at it and maintain a great effort. Immeasurable rewards can be yours if you go for it.

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Psycho Atomic
After training in TKD for almost 11 years and earning a 3rd degree black belt, I think I'm pretty qualified in saying that in my opinion TKD is very far from the strongest martial art.

Kickboxing: Unless you're talking about Tae-Bo or some other B.S. "cardio kickboxing," the average Muay Thai, San Shou, or even traditional full contact kick boxing fighter would destroy most TKD practitioners in a real fight. Traditional TKD incorporates outdated and limited techniques that do not allow for the versatility and adaptability that modern combat sports give. Modern TKD is even worse as the Olympic incorporation of the martial art has created a style in which significantly damaging and/or incapacitating an opponent is no longer an objective, instead giving way to a limited contact "point sparring" in which the objective is to attack with the minimal amount of force in order to retain maximum speed. This often gives TKD matches an aesthetic appeal to them but hides the fact that the techniques viewed would do little or no damage in a full contact situation. On the other hand, most styles of kickboxing, especially those that have continued the tradition of full contact competition, still require its students to be adept in both avoiding and causing fight ending injuries such as knockouts.

Karate: A real tossup here as there are many, many styles of Karate and each varies greatly in how it has evolved to its modern state (if at all). However, most forms of competitive Karate today incorporate full contact (albeit stand-up only) fighting with a minimal amount of protective gear as compared to the layers of padding Olympic-style TKD competitors wear. Therefore, knockouts by kicks as well as injuries sustained to the torso and legs by kicks, knees and punches commonly end matches as opposed to the extremely kick focused angle of TKD. Many styles of Karate have also long included the incredibly important grappling aspect of combat and many more have been influenced by the MMA enthusiastic Japanese culture and have incorporated them alongside their traditional teachings. However, many styles of Karate have also gone the route of modern Tae Kwon Do and have scrapped full contact training in favor of more child and family friendly training. While not inherently bad, these styles of teaching in no way teach you to defend yourself against an opponent trained in street worthy combat.

Kung Fu: Again a tossup, perhaps more so considering that Kung Fu in itself is a general term, describing the thousands of unique Chinese martial arts disciplines. Many of these styles share the same flaws as traditional TKD and many more such as Wushu share the same weaknesses found in modern TKD. However, there are quite a few such as Chin Nai have enough of the fundamentals required for street combat to gain a significant edge over TKD fighters.

Judo: Your comment on Judo is not only awe-inspiring in its ignorance but also shows an utter lack of training in martial arts systems other than Tae Kwon Do. Significantly more than any of the styles listed above, the grappling focus of Judo give it such an incredible advantage over TKD that its unrealistic to even compare the two. Time and time again it has been proven, so much in fact that I find it ridiculous that there are still those who refuse to believe it, that martial arts lacking in grappling training will, save divine intervention, will lose to those competent in it. Therefore I find it odd that you do not even consider the arts of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, traditional Jujitsu, Wrestling, and other such grappling heavy martial arts in your list.

These are just my opinions, however I feel they are very much qualified. I would love to discuss these topics more with anyone who disagrees.

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Archangel_Baw
Personally, I prefer Jujitsu & akido:) Thanks to my father:)

The arts of grappling, bone breaking & if need be, killing. NOT that I would, unless it was a life or death matter.
I also learned artillery & hand to hand combat when I was a teen/young adult (yay Army). And when no one's lookin' I do yoga & tai chi. shhhhhh! unsure.gif

I remember an ex-boyfriend offering to walk me home one night & I laughed at him & said:
Any idiot who is stupid enough to attack me, deserves what he f*cking gets!

The poor guy just looked at me like I was insane. Then he got jumped by 5 guys and I saved his but. He was like: will you marry me?

I am definately interested in Tae Kwan Do though and until I find the right teacher, I'm waiting.

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delivi
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Kung Fu: Mostly punches.. Not good defense, easy to ko
he he i think that you dont know much about other martial arts others than Tae Kwon Do

i meant no offence smile.gif

let me explain,

Tae Kwon Do is really a very good martial art, you attack mostly using your legs. Tae Kwon Do is similar to Karate, you need a good muscled body for the perfection in this art.

Karate, is like a buldozer, youn come hit the oponent in a single blow and go. Use a hands maily for combat.

Judo, uses the force of the attacker against him.

Kung Fu, is the Ultimate martial art. You use both the hands and legs for the comabt. You need to have a flexible body. It includes a lot of blocks than any other martial art. An in Kung Fu Speed defines everything. A well trained Kung Fu warrior will hit his opponent 4 times faster than a Snake. Kung Fu is the toughest to master and the most leathal martial art in the world.

here is an excerpt
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Kung Fu is an extremely disciplined, powerful martial art where strength is built in low stances and powerful blocks. Some Kung Fu blocks are so powerful that it can break the arm of someone who is punching you. Kunf Fu has many systems like Hung-Gar, WuShu, Wing Chun, and others. Kung Fu is for the patient, and mentally and physically strong person. It was the basis for many later forms of martial arts. Over the years, kung fu developed into different styles such as Wing Chun, Drunken boxing and styles based on animal movements like the crane or snake. The reason for such diversity was simple. People rarely traveled far from their homes and kung fu evolved in different locations. In northern China, martial arts emphasized kicking and leg work. In the South, various forms of boxing were most common. Top kung fu stars today have mastered different styles as well. Jet Li is best known as a practitioner of wu shu which uses many different styles emphasizing fluid motion. Jackie Chan learned kung fu while training in a Chinese opera school in Hong Kong and boosts a mastery of the "five animal styles" of kung fu which is highlighted in the film Shaolin Wooden Men. Today many kung fu styles exist and are still passed on as family traditions and through classes.


Tae Kwon Do is a sport rather than a full fledged martial art. It's primary element is kicking. It also involves simple blocks. It's very simple

Wushu is the Sports form of Kung Fu. It is the stripped of all leathal factors present in the Kung Fu. Shaolin Kung Fu is the most powerful form in Kung Fu.

here is an explanation,
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Wushu – 1960’s. Literally translated, "wu" is military, "shu" is art. Therefore, this was originally just the Chinese name for martial arts. Some people still use the word in that sense. However, during the cultural revolution, the Communists felt that comrades shouldn’t be fighting each other, even in mock combat, and so they suppressed traditional kung fu, and invented a version of Kung-fu, where it’s not people fighting each other, but in a competition analogous to gymnastics. It’s considered very beautiful.


I know that all martial art masters will tell that their martial art is the best in this world, but you should consider the facts and the truth.

I'm no martial art master, but I do analyse and learn a lot from differnet martial arts analyzing their techniques.
Please correct me Iif I went wron somewhere. smile.gif


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mrdee
I wonder why people even bother comparing the different martial arts.

It is true, any martial arts of whatever style will usually say "What i teach is the true martial art".
How wrong, same as the pointlessness of this discussion.
All martial arts have their strengths and weaknesses, but also their techniques specific to the style.
Therefore, when a karateka were to fight a TKD or Kung Fu fighter, it is pointless to say "Karate does not stand a chance against Kung Fu" or something similar.
fact of the matter is, if you are proficient at what you do, any technique, whether described here as weak or whatever, which is executed skillfully and correctly, has got its merits.
It would therefore not take a skillful Martial Artist long to se what his(or her) opponent's favourite or frequently used techniques are, and equally, it will not be rocket science to work out what to use to counter attack.
But, as said before, don't expect a total beginner in any martial art to possess lethal skills.
It does take many years of training, whatever the art.

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Aleksander
I am a yellow belt @ tkd, looks cool till now biggrin.gif

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red-eyesD.dragon
I done Tae Kwon Do for over a year and a half then I quit. It wasn't because it was hard, but because it gets very boring really fast. That was over 4 years ago and I forget what belt I was on but every one goes through each belt fast. I never really liked it. But now I started doing another form of self defense, which is alot more fun. It's supposed to teach you how to get out of a struggle in the street and it is very good. My trainer teaches us everything anyone on the street, like a mugger would try to do, including how to deal with somebody with a knife. I'v only been doing this for about 4 months and it's alot more helpful than Tae Kwon Do ever was.

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Sprnknwn
In my opinion they are giving away black belts for free. laugh.gif

I mean, martial arts are supposed to have some kind of balance between body and mind. And you show absolutely no respect for judo, for example. You are just saying that tae kwon do is the most complete because you have inverted lot of time practicing it. People don't often like to think that have been wasting their time. I'm not saying that you have, but imagine the offense you have made to people who is black belt on judo.

I could say that martial arts suck just because I don't practice any of them. And it would be ridiculous at the same level as your affirmations. tongue.gif

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anwiii
whoever said tae kwon do is not an art has no business posting here. it's definately an art as it requires years to master. i've studied this art among other art forms. i can say that i prefer a diversity of art forms rather than master just one. reason being is that every situation is different, BUT! what what usually happens when you need to defend yourself in a fight, is close range combat. kicks don't cut it. most fights end up on the ground. this is FACT so ground fighting is more necassary to master than any other art form. whoever said jujitsu and akido named two art forms that will work best in real life scenarios.

now i must warn for all you youngin's braggin' about what you like and what your studying right now, do not brag about this or even mention it outside your training facility. this will only lead people to test your skills and you ending up in more fights than necessary.

martial arts is not just for defense and protection, but for discipline and self guidance.

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ChaoticRazor
Everyone here but me seems to know what they are talking about. But to Soviet yesterday at school one of the kids who did BJJ attacked me (he was always up himself and i made sure he knew it) he got me to the floor by some knee buckling move and tried to subdue me or somethin, but i just wriggled around and broke his grip on me then got on top of him and smacked him in the temple with my palm, finishing the fight. (big guy to)

I am not trying to bag BJJ as i am sure it is as good as other martial arts, but this kid was always so sure of himself and then he tried to prove himself and got showed up, i suppose im just tellin ya once you get into this kinda stuff you cant take it for granted, you still have to work hard if you are going to get anywhere with it.


I have been taking Tae Kwon Do for about a month now, and the instructor is really happy with the speed i catch on and he is grading me to Blue Belt Triple Stripe this weekend, then i am going to go into the Full Contact Tournement coming up.

I live for martial arts, not only are they good for defending yourself but they are fun and make you feel more confident in your everyday live.
Kinda relevent i suppose...



Jake

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