gisellebebegirl
Jan 13 2008, 04:07 AM
Well since trap17 seems to be down.. or just my gay site, im going to talk about suicide and about how wrong it is. Ok first of all IF YOUR LIFE IS SO MISERABLE AND EVERYONE HATES YOU AND YOU JUST CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE why in the world would you give the things that are hurting you (most likely people duh) the joy the HAPPINESS of seeing you give up? and kill yourself! come on.. you are only making them happy not yourself! and so what you kill yourself thats it! theres no turning back once you kill yourself.. nothing.. unless your extremely religious and believe in life after death come on.. what are the ods of that?! are you really going to take the risk? jesus.. just wait to die and liev life to the fullest be a little positive for once.. see the colors of the rainbow.. dont just live in black and white grayscaleish dreams you are worth more than that! why in the world would destiny make it so you would be born then? for you to suffer? uh i dont think so... so just dont do it.. its wrong.. and trust me you will hurt at least one person by doing that (other than your lame self ogcourse) and it will most likely be someone who really cares for you.. and that perhaps.. even though you might not see it. cant live without you! so why in the world would you do it? i mean it might be your parents.. wait hold that tought the whole reason why you might be thinking about suicide might be them.. so nevermind about that tought.. but what about your little brothers or sisters.. they look up to you.. i bet to you anything they do.. they want to be just like you.. so is that what you are trying to teach them? to give up be a quiter and kill yourself.. come on you are better than that.. and you know you are heres another idea.. your grandparents who love and care so much for you.. wow you killing youself would just make their year.. they would feel bad and miserable for you dyuing and not them.. making them want to commiy suicide too! smart move.. silly emo kids.. gad! jesus.. weell if you havent guessed alreadfy.. this is meant for teenagers emo/suicide kids thinking about commiting suicide.. haha anywho where were we? oh yea..s uicide.. dont do it GAD! jst dont.. there is no point on doing so! cant you try something new? make a friend? eat some playdough? somethinG! ok im gonna make a things to do enstead of commiting suicide list.. breath breath smell play sing listen to music make a friend walk to the beach draw make a myspace talk to your family go shopping get a boyfriend go to college idk!! people add on  im tired of typing hahah ill come back and add more th1ings kks?! gotta check if my site is back up yo!
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pop
Jan 13 2008, 05:29 AM
Don't worry, or at least don't get yourself killed. Trap17 is free hosting service, and like many other hosting services it has periods of downtime. Don't think it's down only couse your gay site is down. Just becouse your gay doesn't mean everyone is after you, like maybe your parents are! That just not right. I'm fond of gay people, i like to be around of gay people, but this is not gay service, it's serious service with many worries on their mind. Do you think that admins of this site should kill themselves only because your site is or my site or any other site is down! OF course not. It is normal for someone who is providing bandwidth to have time that bandwidth is not reacheable. It's normal, just like beeing gay!  So don't wory, or at least don't kill yourself, couse even if you do, dowtime is going to be fixed, and your site is going to be online soon again! 
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anachro
Jan 13 2008, 08:19 AM
suicide is stupid. I agree. but trap17 isn't down, or HOW PRAY TELL would you have posted  it's just your site.
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Carson
Jan 13 2008, 09:45 AM
Suicide, in almost every case, is completely pointless and wasteful. There are extreme cases that you could call exceptions, such as being tortured. These scenarios are inescapable, and would be the only time that suicide isn't completely pointless and wasteful. Apart from such situations, whatever reason a person a person wants to kill themselves, it can be changed. Almost every single time. There is just no need what so ever for it.
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elaks
Jan 13 2008, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(Carson @ Jan 13 2008, 09:45 AM)  Suicide, in almost every case, is completely pointless and wasteful. There are extreme cases that you could call exceptions, such as being tortured. These scenarios are inescapable, and would be the only time that suicide isn't completely pointless and wasteful. Apart from such situations, whatever reason a person a person wants to kill themselves, it can be changed. Almost every single time. There is just no need what so ever for it. I'm a Protestant so I don't have too much against it. If life is really so unbearable and you're not just doing it because you girl/boyfriend ditched you then I think it's a persons choice. As for the torture, I myself would rather kill myself than experience such crushing pain. I can only imagine how hard it is to kill yourself with no help from tall buildings/weapons/water so my respects go to all hostages/soldiers who have gone belly up as opposed to giving away information or allowing themselves to be used by their captures. I have never considered killing myself as their's nothing wrong with my life, but I can see many many scenarios where it's the only option. I don't blame for instance, the business men who killed themselves at the time of the Wallstreet crash- life for them could've gone on, but it would've been a terrible life filled with poorness and strife.
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kobra500
Jan 13 2008, 11:06 AM
If someones making your life a misery why should you be punished for it! I have the uncanny ability not to care what people say. Personally i'd phone the police on them and leave it at that. I care more about saving my life than saving theirs and the deserve prson or to be sued etc.
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khlieeq
Jan 13 2008, 11:59 AM
I've always thought that suicide was kindof stupid, I mean come on... killing yourself's just gonna make it worse for everyone else. Even if you've got a religion, and expect an afterlife. Well I'm a fourteen year old Muslim, and Islam says that if somebody commits suicide they go straight to hell (known as Jahannam)-- that really kicks those mad suicide bombers in the shins (the "72 virgins for suicide bombers" myth is just propaganda)! But seriously, Hell's gotta be worse than a depressed life. Islam is very descriptive of hell, for example people must eat "fruit" that will boil their insides like oil  . Here's a Qur'anic quote about suicide: QUOTE But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily God hath been to you Most Merciful!
If any do that in rancour and injustice,- soon shall We cast them into the Fire: And easy it is for God.
Qur’an 4:29 - 4:30
and a hadith QUOTE Narrated Abu Huraira-: The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."
Book #23, Hadith #446 (Sahih Bukhari) And I'm sure Islam isn't the only religion condemning Suicide, i mean the Bible's sixth commandment "thou shall not kill", it never says what "thou" can't kill, does it? Anyway I just don't get the whole thing with emos, I mean they have their own culture (music, dress-sense, etc) but they would easily give it up for death. Seems kindof weird to me. Anyway I would only think it's right for somebody to willingly allow themself to be killed (so not to directly commit suicide), if it was to save another person's life. Also the story of when Ismail (Ishmael pbuh) seems appropriate here. Very similar to the Jewish/Christian version. Ibrahim (Abraham pbuh) and his wife were very old, however after never having a child before, they were blessed with a baby boy. They cared for him so much, but Ibrahim was a pious man and messenger of God, he had a revelation from God commanding him to sacrifice his son. At this point Ismail (pbuh) was a bit older, but still a child. But even at that age he was willing to be sacrificed if that was what God had commanded, not influenced at all by the temptations of Satan/Shaitan/Iblis. But as it turned out it was all a test from God, a test of Ibrahim's (pbuh) faith. Later Ismail (pbuh) became the forefather of the Arabs, while his brother Ishaq (Issac pbuh) became the forefather of the Israelites; wonder what they'd think if they saw the Arab-Israel Confilct present in Israel and Palestine today. Anyway went a bit OT there, but obviously "willingness to be killed" is a bit different to actually committing suicide-- but if you were in a situation where one person might have to die to save a whole lot of other people I think it'd be acceptable. Euthanasia is considered suicide, and I'm against that.
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elaks
Jan 13 2008, 12:15 PM
QUOTE If someones making your life a misery why should you be punished for it! I have the uncanny ability not to care what people say. Personally i'd phone the police on them and leave it at that. I care more about saving my life than saving theirs and the deserve prson or to be sued etc. If the thing ruining your life is multi-billion dollar company or a terrible government there's not much you can do. People don't kill themselves just because of other people. I agree- if one man/woman was making my life miserable I'd be tempted to pay a group of people to beat them up or sue.
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Bluebear
Jan 13 2008, 12:33 PM
I agree with elaks. People just do not kill themselves because of other people. It could be other things in live that they are tired of, or they miss. Maybe they have lost someone they loved, or they are in big financial problems. Many people would say that it is not e good enough reason to kill themselves, but some people are not as strong about these things as others. They could also have mental problems. One of my neighbors killed himself, and he had that problem. He had nothing other wrong in his life; He had a wife, children, money and it seemed like he was happy. He went to therapy, but and it worked for a while. His wife went to Texas to visit the new granddaughter, and when she tried to call home nobody answered. The next day someone went to check on him, and they found him dead. Suicide may be wrong in the most cases, but not all of them are stupid emo kids. Sometimes there is other reasons.
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budsu
Jan 13 2008, 12:48 PM
i'd say it depends on the reson resons like :"my girlfriend dumped me" are very stupid but sometimes i think suicide my be the best way out (why is it iligall anyway ? ) :S
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Sica-GURU
Jun 26 2008, 12:31 PM
I have to tell you something... Suicide is NOT wrong at all. take this situation: you are a prisoner/convict/and so.. you are a SLAVE and you suppose to do whatever a peson or group of persons want. think about this thing: YOU, prisoner no. 333 are suposed to kill your family or a dozen of people (let's say at least 6) to go free, so what you do? you kill them and save your life? or you save your life and kill them?! here you can kill them let's say if you don't know them, if you don't care about them and also if you consider yourself more iportant than they are... it's ok to kill them if you worth more than they are, but it's really ok ? and it's really ok to kill even if they're not but they're your family? I believe that suicide must be used only and only when is the last and the best option to choose... any other attempt to kill yourself with no reason in mind is madness, madness is also what terrorist do.. they kill for a cause but not for a better one...
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minimcmonkey
Jun 25 2008, 09:47 PM
QUOTE why in the world would you give the things that are hurting you (most likely people duh) the joy the HAPPINESS of seeing you give up? and kill yourself! come on.. you are only making them happy not yourself! I think whoever is causing the pain would have to be fairly "extreme" to enjoy it when you kill yourself, Infact, you would probably cause them to kill themselves, beacuse the guilt they would feel every day could well drive them mad. QUOTE unless your extremely religious and believe in life after death come on.. what are the ods of that?! are you really going to take the risk? jesus.. just wait to die and liev life to the fullest Not that im religeous, but suicide is a mortal sin, god said that to take ones own life, is a sin. so even if you believed in life after death, you would have to go to hell.
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Nico Robin
Jun 25 2008, 09:43 PM
Eureka is right. It does depend on your point of view.
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Eureka
Jun 25 2008, 07:21 AM
Suicide isnt wrong, that your point of view, but what of the victims or believers. oh, right, there dead. but they would believe in spirits and reincarnation.
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gisellebebegirl
Jun 24 2008, 01:52 AM
i guess if you want to take the religious way, its wrong too.. but yea, come on people suicide is not the way to go, if you need help, find help, there is help out there, no matter how messed up your life might be.. theres always someone out there whos willing to help you.. and if you just cant live with that, theres always medicines that can somehow keep you positive.. but yea, there are many associations out there illing to help.. like TO WRITE LOVE ON HER AMRS
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