football123213
Mar 2 2005, 01:34 AM
| | Ok well for me a 12 year old i have lernd some java and i no HTMl
I have wantet to lern php for some time now
so i went to the book shop and picked up a book
1st day i sat down and looked at it
i got to say this *BLEEP* is hard man i mean thers so much stuff to rember
Eh and then the MYSQL part just gets me i dont no if you no any EZ step by step
books, sites any thing that can help me out pls let me no |
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beeseven
Mar 2 2005, 01:49 AM
What I found was helpful was to just experiment. I learned some basics in a class I took over the summer (echo, basic variables, $_POST, and some math stuff), then I just browsed php.net and looked at some different functions then tested them with what they could do.
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NotoriousZach
Mar 2 2005, 04:05 AM
I would start off just messing with php, figure out the structure get to know things....... Then once your more familiar and comfortable with PHP then you can implement the MYSQL... You maybe able to do it all at once, lot of people do, but It mainly depends on your learning style I guess.
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HmmZ
Mar 2 2005, 09:52 AM
The fastest way you learn is through practise, practise and more practise. Just go create a small website containing php pages, and php code. I'm at the same level as you probably, only i'm 6 years older  . Right now I'm actually trying to figure out the member feature (register/login/logout/members online/etc..) and it's a tough one, but with the many decent php sources on the web, it can't take long to figure out, I can offer you a book in PDF format, but you'll have to PM for that. The book is called PHP/MySQL for dummies, good to understand, well explained with pictures and codes and you'll learn many aspects of this dynamic duo.
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mobious
Mar 2 2005, 10:15 AM
my advice to you si learn how to setup your own webserver. i suggest get the latest apache distribution and install it on your system. then go to www.php.net and grab the latest php distribution. then configure it to your apache webserver. after a successful setup you can now grab a copy of the PHP Manual. Then your off to your never-ending quest for mastery!!!!! READ! UNDERSTAND! PRACTICE! EXPERIMENT! and then CREATE! ok?
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FaLgoR
Mar 2 2005, 05:38 PM
Youre wrong. U make me remember myself,because when I was 12, I think exactaly like you. "PHP is hard". But now, (Im 14, learn php with 13) I see that this is an very simple language. Try to pickup tutorials and look at some scripts (but never only copy them, use it to learn).
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HmmZ
Mar 2 2005, 09:01 PM
Mobious, Advising him to make his own webserver using the dynamic duo, is actually a bad advice, all the guy wants right now is learn PHP, he never mentioned MySQL (even though it's its best partner). Letting him set up his own webserver will only cause confusion, without enough knowledge of functions. For a beginner, databases are just extending the difficulty of PHP, because, basically, you don't need MySQL right away to start with PHP, PHP has enough features to use without needing dbs.
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Joshthegreat
Mar 4 2005, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(FaLgoR @ Mar 2 2005, 05:38 PM) Youre wrong. U make me remember myself,because when I was 12, I think exactaly like you. "PHP is hard". But now, (Im 14, learn php with 13) I see that this is an very simple language. Try to pickup tutorials and look at some scripts (but never only copy them, use it to learn). I'm 13 now, and I can imagine it being a simple language once you've got used to it, but it's that first sudden impact of crazy little symbols and random text that really throws people. I mean, it threw me. I was like  . But now you say it's actually quite easy. I might just give it an extra shot.
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beeseven
Mar 4 2005, 11:44 PM
After a little work with PHP it becomes really easy. It has a simple syntax and the commands make a lot of sense. To check if a file exists it's file_exists("filename"), to connect to an ftp server, it's ftp_connect("url"), etc.
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mobious
Mar 5 2005, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(HmmZ @ Mar 3 2005, 05:01 AM) Mobious, Advising him to make his own webserver using the dynamic duo, is actually a bad advice, all the guy wants right now is learn PHP, he never mentioned MySQL (even though it's its best partner). Letting him set up his own webserver will only cause confusion, without enough knowledge of functions. For a beginner, databases are just extending the difficulty of PHP, because, basically, you don't need MySQL right away to start with PHP, PHP has enough features to use without needing dbs. if installation instructions won't be of any use then they really can't be helped. then just go to pre-compiled distributions. much like of PHPTriad. you can get apache and php in their distribution.
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mobious
Mar 10 2005, 06:30 AM
QUOTE(krap @ Mar 10 2005, 03:26 AM) yes i am learning php and im 13 and i only know a little bit i think its difficult but it must be possible to learn.  i wont give up!  but all the " ' : [] $ symbols all stuck together really confuse me when i look at them the operators are not theat confusing. the operators are just like the one you use for math class. some of them are already self-explanatory.
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krap
Mar 9 2005, 07:26 PM
yes i am learning php and im 13 and i only know a little bit i think its difficult but it must be possible to learn. i wont give up! but all the " ' : [] $ symbols all stuck together really confuse me when i look at them
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mobious
Mar 6 2005, 02:14 AM
QUOTE(alexia @ Mar 5 2005, 10:12 PM) Cool at first u should know html Tags and learn JSP then you can go and learn php lan and for work with php you can include html tag(easy) and JSP (easy) in your php code then you must prof in php u must try to make php page with out html tags you must hidden html tags in your code for example with html tag :: html head /head body <? php echo "hi" ; ?> /body /html whti out html tags :: <? echo '<html> <head> </head> <body> </body> </html> ' ; are you referring to JavaScript or Java Server Pages? I think those to are different and js is the one the can be embeded on php files not JSP. JSP requires technology such as Tomcat from ASF.
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alexia
Mar 5 2005, 02:12 PM
Cool at first u should know html Tags and learn JSP then you can go and learn php lan and for work with php you can include html tag(easy) and JSP (easy) in your php code then you must prof in php u must try to make php page with out html tags you must hidden html tags in your code for example with html tag :: html head /head body <? php echo "hi" ; ?> /body /html whti out html tags :: <? echo '<html> <head> </head> <body> </body> </html> ' ;
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