Php Or Html? - which do you use?

habbovalley

Jul 3 2007, 11:36 PM

Well being a HTML its easy for me but what do people use the most?
Is it HTML or PHP.
It depends really on which you learnt first.
So im gonna have a poll.Post HTML for Html and PHP for php and we will see which is more popular.

BuffaloHELP

Jul 4 2007, 12:03 AM

I use PHP because I can manipulate web pages more with PHP than HTML, like including another webpage to the current page with the command include. You can do the same with HTML but have to use bulky <object> command with register keys that's hard to remember. And coming from C++ background, I was able to understand PHP faster compare to HTML commands--especially love the FOR loop and IF, THEN commands.

However, I've been meaning to ask this question: do search engines like HTML page more than PHP page? I made few websites years ago, at the same time, one with PHP and the other one with HTML. Google, it seems, liked HTML pages better than PHP. My backlink search shows HTML cached by Google and none of my PHP cached by Google... Am I dreaming?

So, ultimately do you build with HTML (file ending) or PHP (file ending) which to choose?

Tetraca

Jul 4 2007, 01:10 AM

QUOTE(habbovalley @ Jul 3 2007, 11:36 PM)

That's a very unfair comparision.

HTML is a markup language. It was made to display text and stuff like that in a fancy way. PHP was made as a scripting language to do things like access files, solve mathematical problems, and do repetitive tasks easily. If you're referring to the use of PHP on the web, well, you're going to need to use HTML with PHP anyways if you want to do anything worthwhile. HTML by its own isn't very convienient to update.

BuffaloHELP

Jul 4 2007, 02:22 AM

Tetraca,

Thanks for the pointer. I guess since I use mainly to "calculate" my pages depending on the result, such as random file displaying or visitor's status value (whatever it may be) I just started to use PHP and spit out HTML command using the ECHO. This made me forget your point--PHP is really a scripting language where PHP still depends on HTML markups to render web pages.

I did find an answer to my question above...PHP or HTML and does it matter to SEO.

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I will say though, that theirs no seo reasoning behind changing from php to html, I don't know why people worry with that. Mod_rewrite is only worth it to get url's without multiple variables.

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At the worse case, I can always rewrite .php to show .html by .htaccess rewrite.

csp4.0

Jul 4 2007, 03:08 AM

It depends on what web page its for. Like if you're doing a web page for some login page then use php, but just a normal page like some introduction about your self with no advanced features i.e. guestbook. Then use html. To me html is easier, but php gives you more functionality. Also if you don't want people looking at your webpage's code use php, only advanced users that know how to create web browsers can know your 'code'

shadowx

Jul 4 2007, 10:48 AM

Well as said for almost any website you need HTML, unless its one of those fancy pure css sites. So to be fair virtually 1OO% of websites use HTML so in that sense HTML is more popular, now if the question is about which language i prefer coding in i would say php because i like solving problems more than displaying info.

but in a comparison of sites with html and those using php HTML would win in terms of numbers of websites using it because you dont need t use php to make a website.

lekrissy

Jul 4 2007, 08:48 PM

I use HTML and CSS at the moment because I don't know PHP yet. I would like to learn it soon so it can update stats atuomatically so I don't have to. Example, I plan to make a fanlisting soon and PHP is great with updating member stats right away. There's lots of other reasons. I'll still use HTML though.

etycto

Jul 4 2007, 09:03 PM

while php is more flexible but it is more confusing than html and it requires a big download to code from my desktop so i prefer to use html. if i realy need php i normaly just download the scripts like wordpress or watever

Striker9099

Jul 5 2007, 10:52 PM

I don't think such a question could actually be asked... It's as if you are comparing to objects of different nature... HTML is a markup language which is the basic knowledge in web-designing; it is indispensable. While on the other hand, PHP is a server-side scripting language which allows you to execute scripts on your website. Now if you want to keep it simple for you while coding your website, you can use HTML and at the same time, use PHP... each in its right place and for its right cause.
I just want to point to something... when you want to compare, you have to choose items of like-nature. To be clearer, you can compare PHP to ASP, HTML to XML... something like that.

Byaja

Jul 11 2007, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Striker9099 @ Jul 5 2007, 11:52 PM)

I myself use them both alongside each other but not all the time it depends what I am designing if its a clan/game based feature i will use both but if its a security module etc i will use php and html if needed, but that question is really hand in hand. i think using one or the another is the wrong way to go but everyone is different and they not think like I do.

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J_M

Aug 31 2007, 02:34 AM

Php or HTML? It's not like you have a choice without HTML. What are you going to use on the web if you're not using HTML?
Php with HTML, yes, that's a great combination. I generally make snippets of code in HTML and unite them using PHP includes/requires. Thats' a great way to develop websites. You can use and reuse your code a lot of times using Php includes and require commands.
If you want to find out how they work, well you can go to http://www.w3schools.com/php and read about them. It's really very simple as far as includes and requires are concerned.

Forbez

Aug 30 2007, 11:08 PM

I do a mixture of both really. Html to set out the site and just php scripts for stuff which requires me to connect to my sql database and display information.

For the html I do mostly <div> with the class from my css stylesheet. For the php scritping, mostly connecting to mysql and displaying data. I really ought to learn more php.

I personally vote for Php scritping though, alot more advanced and gives a better feel to the site. Which always changes depending on whats happening to the site.

hitmanblood

Aug 30 2007, 08:02 PM

QUOTE(habbovalley @ Jul 4 2007, 01:36 AM)

This is very strange comparisson and I would say that you cannot compare it in such a way because PHP is scripting language and HTML is markup language (HTML is abbreviation for the hyper text markup language).

So this is really strange comparisson. You should first consider in which situation you would like to use each and just to add if you use HTML you can create web site but you cannot create web site without HTML that is you can but it would be really ugly and it would be able to present just some simple outputs. Though there are many other things that you cannot do with HTML that is why you use PHP.

Also I would like to add that PHP is language that is being executed on the server that is on the server side, while HTML is client sided that is HTML is processed and executed on the client side that is Browser is defining and executed commands from HTML file.

And someone said here that he has problems that his or hers pages aren't cashed in google cash this is not problem with HTML and PHP and certainly not with google problem lyies in simple thing that pages that use also PHP are not static and that is why google doesn't remembers them.

m4rk0551

Aug 30 2007, 07:09 PM

I know a bit of html and a tad of php (Syntax, Variables, Echo, Strings and Operators) but when I do learn both quiet well, I will probably use php as most good looking websites I have seen use Php (and also html too i guess). So I'd probably use both actually.

thugsmoke058

Aug 27 2007, 01:22 PM

Html is much easier for website
i use html for my web template and its too easy i can say it and i'm using dreamweaver so that much easier because they have auto html its just like if you put anything img or you click something then tata there's the code for the templates

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