Jul 20, 2008
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Really to improve Firefox only needed to make certain experiences like installing addons and themes seamless (like no restarts and compatibility issues). And they needed a sleek new interface. Honestly why isn't there a single great theme out there for Firefox? Anyways, despite all the flaws I guess I'll just have to get used to it, because even is if sucks now, it sucks less than every other alternative out there.
Come to think about it, there aren't so many features that differentiate it from other browsers anymore, except for the extensions.
Opera has speed. IE has integration. Konqueror has dual functions. (Well, then again, so does IE...) The only thing that's keeping Firefox from plummeting and Opera from rising up is the extensions. People love them, and it's this that hooks Mozilla to the world. Otherwise, it's just like Animal Farm. Lead them away from oppression, only to oppress them yourself. -With the address bar it works with the bookmark system and using keywords from your book marks you will no longer have to open your bookmark folder and then click on a website. All you have to od is type in some keywords and your website will show up just like that, and thus the reason why it seems bulky like that since it is using keywords from the title and whatever else info is on there. Of course if you don't want to see your history all you have to do is clear the cookies, history when you close out, and that solvs your problem right there. -I will agree that making the add-on's work the moment you install them they work right away, and the download window is bad as well. As for the interface you need to keep it as simple as possible so people who download the software don't have to spend much figuring out where everything is. However, if you want to design your own theme there are several websites out there that teach you how design one. As for sucking I highly doubt it FF3b3 is the most complete version of the browser, since the web standards are near perfect, it uses less memory, and it even gives your more info about the websites that you visit when you click on the favicon.
Despite everything, you must admit, Firefox isn't what it used to be. When v1 and v2 came out it was an amazing product. Now its not, its just another browser. I really hope that v4 will be revolutionary. Or IE8 or Opera10 will take up innovation.
Well you can't really reinvent the wheel, all you can do is improve, and that is all browsers are doing now since their first versions, and that is all they did was improve on what they did already. I believe though that with Opera and firefox I think all the new idea's are over unless something is missing which I highly doubt.
Are you serious? The web is changing and we are seeing new technologies being implemented everyday, the browser on the other hand hasn't really changed at all. The browsers should now re-invent itself as as a platform for developing RIAs.
For starters the functionality of Greasemonkey and Stylish should be built into the browser, ie. the ability to set a stylesheet and javascript for individual sites. Certain functions that are common among all sites should be built into the browser, for example why do we need to register for every site we go to by giving the same information over and over again. Why cant the browser do that for us? And I don't mean a form filler, but rather something more akin to CardSpace. Managing downloads also need work. We can have multithreaded downloads with pause-resume feature that actually works, as well as the possibility to automatically search for mirror (by matching filename/format/size). And lets not forget about support for torrents, etc. History and Bookmark could use a lot of work as well. ...and a back button that works on AJAX sites. QUOTE(adenrake @ Mar 3 2008, 11:19 AM)  Are you serious? The web is changing and we are seeing new technologies being implemented everyday, the browser on the other hand hasn't really changed at all. The browsers should now re-invent itself as as a platform for developing RIAs. For starters the functionality of Greasemonkey and Stylish should be built into the browser, ie. the ability to set a stylesheet and javascript for individual sites. Certain functions that are common among all sites should be built into the browser, for example why do we need to register for every site we go to by giving the same information over and over again. Why cant the browser do that for us? And I don't mean a form filler, but rather something more akin to CardSpace. Managing downloads also need work. We can have multithreaded downloads with pause-resume feature that actually works, as well as the possibility to automatically search for mirror (by matching filename/format/size). And lets not forget about support for torrents, etc. History and Bookmark could use a lot of work as well. ...and a back button that works on AJAX sites. RIA... surely you don't mean "recording industry association"? America has one of those already, and one is enough. I think Firefox supports multi-threaded downloads. You just have to tweak the about:config registry a little... huh... Opera's Wand does the CardSpace thing. History and bookmarks can have a search function, but I think that's as useful as it can get. QUOTE(adenrake) ...are exactly the kind of changes that are supposed to be left to the user to decide via extensions. No, they can still be left to users to decide via extensions. All these users have to do is wait for these extensions to come out, just like they did with the current ones.  QUOTE(adenrake) Honestly why isn't there a single great theme out there for Firefox? I was always fond of the minimalistic theme known as "Breeze." Although i'm not really the minimalistic type, that one attracted me the most. QUOTE(adenrake) Anyways, despite all the flaws I guess I'll just have to get used to it, because even is if sucks now, it sucks less than every other alternative out there. You can always downgrade if you want to limit yourself to Firefox. Version 3 isn't stable yet, i believe, so the installer for version 2 should still be available. QUOTE(adenrake) When v1 and v2 came out it was an amazing product. What were the differences? And what did they have that other browsers didn't? They both always seemed the same to me. Firefox is mostly popular because of its extensions. Remove the extensions and the only reasons people would be giving themselves are, "It's not Internet Explorer" and "It has more 'support' (emphasis on the quotations) for websites." The only reason i prefer Firefox 3 over version 2 is because they've (finally) added extra support for the CSS property "display." That is, they gave it "table-cell" support. This is one of the main reasons why it passes the acid test. As a web designer, this is a relief.
RIAs mean Rich Internet Applications, which are basically new websites like Adobe Buzzword, Zoho, etc.
The Opera wand is the same thing as Roboform (which I use on firefox). What I meant was a universal profile that was saved on the browser and could be called by any website that needs the required information, thus eliminating the required of registering on every site u use and even needing to log in. And yes I am using v2 now but when the final version of v3 comes out I'll HAVE to switch over to the new version, because as much as I dislike the new 'improvements', I just can't stand to use a out-of-date product.
I never tried it yet, but I am downloading it now upon typing this message, firefox 3 beta.. and i'll share to you what its advantages and its disadvantages.
I prefer Firefox in all the browsers i have especially when I am in the office, no restrictions on sites and no bugs. Latest Entries
Whoa i nevert even heard of Opera but Im loving Firefox right now so maybe when they finaly force em to update to v3 i will try opera.
I agree! By all means, Firefox 3 is the best browser that has come out...
Everything is good except for the fact the Firefox 3 "stops responding" for a second or two when a download finishes downloading... Another thing is the fact that not many themes support it... However, I was downloading this particular file yesterday and watched as it finished and in the status bar it said, "Downloading..." then quickly turned to "Scanning for Viruses", and then "Download Complete"... I never knew Firefox 3 had a built-in virus scanner, or maybe it used my NOD32 (which is unlikely because no popup of NOD32 scanning ever pop'd up... Firefox 3 is a great browser and the built-in adaptive search for the URL bar is a great way to know what page was which for what...
All that you have to do for home button is just right click on the toolbar and click customize.. really easy-- another thing that separates Firefox from all the other browsers. Firefox is easy to use and I've loved it since the first release. Firefox 3 is great because it is fast, customizable and the add-ons are awesome. I realize that some of the add-ons have compatibility issues, but the people just need to update them. Safari is great, its kind of fast, but not customizable-- something that I hate. IE is slow, not really customizable, and lets in viruses. Opera is pretty fast... nothing more to say. I've never tried any other browser because I don't know of many. Firefox has great security and most websites recommend that you view the site in Firefox. I really don't see what is soo bad about it...
Yes, agree
Firefox 3 Sucks - Time For Another Browser Replying to adenrake Specially that it crashes 5-6 times a day , I hate it when it does that.
Disappointed, will use Firefox 2 until Firefox 4
Firefox 3 Sucks - Time For Another Browser If "upgrading" means losing a mission critical plug-in, I'll pass. FF3 killed three of my mission critical plug-ins: tab mix plus, repaginator, and refresh blocker. The "privacy" tab of the options would not work. It never updated the option's dialog box. The "security" tab only worked some of the time. The Back and Forward buttons are now awkward. Ctrl+MouseWheel towards you has always meant make the fonts bigger. It was like bringing the page closer to you. Ctrl+MouseWheel away from you always meant make the fonts smaller. FF3 has reverse these two effects. No one ever wants to make the fonts smaller. They always want them bigger because dumb kids think it's cool to use really tiny fonts. So you're always doing the "make font bigger" mouse wheel gesture. Pulling the wheel towards you is just easier than pushing it away. So the common gesture should definitely use it. What Firefox should have done is the following: 1. Plug-in protection Better protection against poorly written plug-ins. If a plug-in enters an infinite loop or causes an exception, the plug-in runtime should be able to recover. Currently, such plug-ins can bring down the Firefox process. 2. Plug-in lifecycle All plug-ins should have a lifecycle, even if that means recycling the plug-in runtime. Installing, uninstalling, or updating a plug-in may restart the plug-in runtime for all plug-ins (suboptimal, but acceptable), but it should not force a recycle of the Firefox process. 3. No dialogs modal to top-level windows. Web pages love to display a dialog box repeatedly until you click "accept" to it. Click "no" or "cancel" and they'll just redisplay the same dialog, perhaps after displaying another one saying you have to say yes. Talk about not taking no for an answer. Firefox should treat all "modal" dialog boxes as being modal with respect to the tab in which they were spawned rather than modal with respect to the Firefox process or any of it's top-level windows. That way, users can simply close the tab whose web page is being obnoxious rather than killing the Firefox process. 4. Skinning If Firefox had a skinning or theme creation tool, the developers wouldn't feel the need to "innovate" the UI so much. They could get their creative fixes by creating themes, which the users could install or ignore at our pleasure. Of course, users could create and publish their own themes/skins. Everybody has different tastes. -reply by Daniel Barbalace
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