Faster Than Light Travel? - Thinking caps please!

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Bah! Humbug! Faster than light travel is impossible! At least that';s what people who believe in today's physics and relativity. But who knows, maybe everything we know today will be debunked in a hundred years and light travel will be possible!
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Faster Than Light Travel? - Thinking caps please!

Mithshark
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According to Einsteins theory of relativity, you cannot travel at the speed of light as it requires an infinite amount of energy to do so. The only way to acheive greater then light speeds would be to use the "star trek effect."

"Perhaps the biggest advantages of the gravitational engine I describe on another page is what happens when you put a negative and positive one together and use them to both propel an aircraft (Fig 6). If the negative engine provides additional power to take account of your mass the two engines will cancel each other in the centre of your craft and your mass will then in effect be zero"

with "zero mass" you would then be able to acheive not usualy normal effects, as it would take infinitly small amounts of energy to create extreme effect, like greater the light speeds

"According to Special Relativity kinetic (movement) energy is related to your speed and your mass. The faster you go the higher your kinetic energy so it follows that this energy need to come from somewhere. As you approach the speed of light this kinetic energy level rises sharply giving you very high energy needs if you wish to reach such speeds. With two gravitational drives however it is possible to to cancel your mass out so it becomes zero and if you use a zero mass value in Einstein's formula your kinetic energy is zero irrespective of speed. If your kinetic energy remains at zero you can then travel at what ever speed you wish - even at speeds faster than light! It is the high values of kinetic energy that prevent you from travelling at light speed, remove your mass and the light speed barrier disappears."

now the problems of this
problem 1: having positive energy on one side and negative on the other would cause the zero mass effect, in the exact middle of the ship. Thus, one side would have mass and the other would have negative mass. You might be thinking how this would matter, well, once you have reached near light speeds to much kinetic energy would be acting apon the positive side, while none on the other side. It would then pull your ship in half.
problem 2: now hypotheticly you get your ship to stay together at light speeds, you, nor anything else onboard, would want to move, moving would upset the equilibrium of the two generators, thus creating more then 0 mass, which would basicly crush your vehicle and slow it down to less then light speeds.
problem 3: Now, say you solve problem 1 and 2, your ship would be perfectly able to do greater then speed travel, but... What happens to the generators? the generators would have mass to them, thus it would be unable to reach light speeds.

Advantages to this method
advantage 1: With this method of light travel and "zero mass," the amount of acceleration which would normaly be absurd will be fine for this. Your acceleration is only limited to the capicity of the generators you are using, meaning 30Gs of acceleration would not effect the human body or anything else at all, for that matter, you could live through accelerations of infinate porportions, the only limitions would be your generators.
advantage 2: This method actualy uses surprisably small amounts of energy to make happen, as your mass is "zero," there isnt much for your generators to push.

heres the figure


Heres my source http://www.blachford.info/quantum/fastlight.html

NOTE:
"When I say zero mass I don't literally mean that. You will always have mass but it will appear to the universe that you have none.  i.e. you would put zero into the relevant equation (the Lorentz Transformation) and it will show there is no incerease in energy necessary."


Notice from BuffaloHELP:
Ahem... since I copied the entire post from another forum, whether I wrote the first or not, it's against the forum rule and I am ready to take my punishment. But since this is my first offense BuffaloHELP was generous enough to let me go with a very strong warning. I will never copy and past unless it is included in QUOTE tag. And since my entire post consists of quotes, I believe I made a spam post. I am truly sorry, this will never happen again.

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cse-icons
I suppose that is a not your content and you should put it in Quotes. You can find the same here :

http://www.thebrinkofreality.com/forums/in...owtopic=76&st=0

Even if you have posted it there, you need to quote it here. and not put the entire thing as content.

Moreover the link that u gave states that:

QUOTE
Some of the weird science stuff has been removed, it was previously left here for the humour value.
Some people evidently don't have a sense of humour...


Cheers.

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goldinero
At one time peopl believed the world was flat. Later, they believed that traveling at the speed of a locamotive would be dangerous to humans. Then they believed that human flight was impossible. Again they thought supersonic flight was unachievable.

Of course, now we know they were all wrong. And it is only a matter of time before someone shows not with an equation, but with physical evidence, that E=mc^2 is does not define the upper speed limit of travel most places in the universe.

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bsdpowa
We were all wrong because we couldn't understand.With the technology advancing every day we might be able to travel at the speed of light within few hunderd of years.What I've read is that you can travel faster then the speed of light because the time or velocity doesn't exist there.I don't know smile.gif.

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Unregistered 015
Its both time and velocity (kako bi mi rekli prostor-vrijeme)
Read Einsteins relativity theory for more info. Stephen Hawking talks a lot about time-space concept in a lot of his works. Theory of everything can be founde somewhere on line becouse it free for non comercial use. And you can find everything else illegally tongue.gif

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adriantc
I think faster then light travel is possible. Einstein was indeed briliant for his time and for ours, but there may come a time when people will have much more data about the univers and the way it works. We don't even know if the univers is infinit or not. Some say it is, others say the univers has the shape of a donut (don't laugh... consider we are a ant on the surface of a donut-the ones with the hole in the middle- and you will realise that in the ants vision no matter how much she travels the donut will seem infinit to her).
Since we don't even know the basics of how the univers worked, works and will work we will never know what are its limits. Every theory is limited by the power of our imagination. It's not that hard to imagine going back in time... huh.gif

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Unregistered 015
Does the ligth have mass? No? Why then the light can't escape from a black hole? Does the black hole have mass? Is the mass at the black hole (in it's acretion disk) going faster toward it than the light? Does it mean that mass can travel faster then light? Is there something completely different at play? Another "physics" maybe?

Just some of the interesting questions, I'm about to answer tongue.gif

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apurva
its been discovered that we can decrease and increase the speed of light.

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OpaQue
Matter waves can travel Faster than Light. However, it has not been realised in practical world, but Therotically it has been proved.

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apurva
whats this matter waves??

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AbdurahmanL
Bah! Humbug! Faster than light travel is impossible! At least that';s what people who believe in today's physics and relativity. But who knows, maybe everything we know today will be debunked in a hundred years and light travel will be possible!

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underwatergames
I think that it will be possible one day wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif







Just not in the near future!

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iGuest
The Universe and a \"Simultaeous Transition\"
Faster Than Light Travel?

Why are scientists so reluctant to consider the "ultimate" condition of the Universe, when theorising extraterrestrial communications.
To communicate to any where in the Universe in real time, will only succeed
If the transmission is received simultaneously from the source.

E.G. Place a pencil across the palm of your hand.
Imagine the distance from one end of the pencil to the other is "and" distance.
The pencil will represent an immutable "thread" through out the Universe.

Should you move one end of the pencil(thread).. Then the other end will move simultaneously.
No energy is required as the contact is already made automatically, the modulation or the "data" is the only reference to time.

This facility has been available not only since the very beginnings in the Universe, but is used here on the Earth.
Most living entities could not function with out this phenomena.



-reply by Brian Sallur

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jopak134
it's up to the scientist to think of a way of travelling faster than the speed of light. but as of today we are now way near that. it's a matter of centuries before one can conjure an idea to make a vehicle faster than a speed of light.

as of now the scientist are intented about the idea of a wormhole. which has never been seen before but proven in physics so its a matter of time or our physics is wrong laugh.gif


but if where "theorizing" then one idea of mine is a little bit simple:

when your using a flashlight, and light is in a wall. in logic you know the light is in the wall. if you put a colored plastic for example a green plastic then the light in the wall will be colored green also. if there is a way to create a engine/portal/etc that will let us be the green plastic and be transported in the wall in the speed of light then that would be exciting. laugh.gif


i have that one unique engine, but too bad youll have to be in my dream to see it laugh.gif

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elhadi
may be in the future

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