tdktank59
Oct 8 2005, 06:09 AM
| | Yeah im my biology class my teacher was taling to us about cars and stuff..
and we got on the subject of alternat fules cars lol...
and you can take a desile car and turn it into a olive oil car lol...
all you have to do is clean all the desile out of the car system and do some fun things and then itll run off of cooking oil...
just go to a mcdonalds and ask for there cooking oul they normaly will give it to you for free or cheep cause it costs more money to get rid of it then to give it away lol...
Just thought id let u know |
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vujsa
Oct 8 2005, 06:40 AM
Additionally, most diesel engines will run on jet fuel as well. In particular, Jet A and Jet B fuels. Older army trucks are able to use multiple fuels sources including gasoline, diesel, karosene, grain alcohol, etc. Many gasoline powered cars can be converted to use either natural gas or propane (LP) at a reasonable cost. vujsa
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BuffaloHELP
Oct 8 2005, 08:44 AM
Daryl Hannah, now famous for playing the evil villain in Kill Bill but previously for the role in the movie Splash, has been driving this old GTO with modified diesel engine that runs on any cooking oil--new or recycled. She's been advocating this modification since the early 90's. I modified my heater for my house to run on kerosene, heating oil or diesel fuel just last year. It's imperative that we start to utilize cleaner burning fuels or alternative energy source.
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nelimitat
Oct 8 2005, 09:53 AM
this is a very interesting subject. but can you tell us how to make the car use olive oil instead of gas. please be more detailed in your answer.
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Saint_Michael
Oct 8 2005, 11:08 AM
well the one fact i can think that olive oil is used is that its combustible if you deep fat fry something you will notice it boiling and what not which makes it into a gas and thus moves through the system. But i have to say electric cars are the way to go i think its time to leave the oil alone and start working on mass producing electric cars hopefully we get to have that opportunity in this centruy for it to happen and thus people can stop fighting about the oil. but in reality thats why electric cars are not coming out due to the fact that no one is really making money off of them which is sad to me that people would rather fight about a resource that wll be gone eventually and thus break the world economy down, which would mean the middle east will most likely suffer the worse since they rely on oil to run their governments. of course i think water and wind are the the true source of energy as well, its a unlimited supply and it can be recycled as well. hopefully the next generation will realize that and start doing something about it because the baby boom generation has pretty much set the standard of ruining everyone once the right thing goes wrong.
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sportytalk
Oct 9 2005, 05:50 PM
Wow, this is a very interesting topic indeed. I never knew that you could use these things instead of the standard fuel for the vehicles. Would these modified fuels, such as the cooking oils be better for the environment with the greenhouse effect? Even if it doesn't help the environment, then it would be using less fossil fuels meaning that the fuels are left for better things. This would also be a cheaper method. It's amazing, the things you can transfer standard things, such as diesel too. Ah well, you learn new things everyday!
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Arigato
Oct 10 2005, 09:49 PM
Running a car off olive oil probably wouldn't be the best idea. Where I live olive oil can be quite expensive, more than gasoline and it probably wouldn't be very effecient. Also the emissions are probably quite unclean. If we want to help the enviroment we should be looking at cars that run off electricity or hydrogen.
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hotdog55
Oct 11 2005, 11:43 AM
most deasils can run on olive oil exept it is eligal and if you keep using it it will eventually reck the car
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round
Oct 11 2005, 04:39 PM
acutally they doesn't just run on olive oil, they run on vegetable oil. Most just get for free from restaurants, who have to pay to get rid of the frying oil anyway. But from what i understand, getting your car to run on vegetable oil isn't that hard or expensive. Places will do it for you and you can also keep your regular gaz tank, switch from one to other. Kinda like what the hybrids do. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.htmlhttp://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htmanyway, if you do a search on google you'll find tons of info on it.round
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tdktank59
Oct 27 2005, 05:02 AM
QUOTE(sportytalk @ Oct 9 2005, 09:50 AM) Wow, this is a very interesting topic indeed. I never knew that you could use these things instead of the standard fuel for the vehicles. Would these modified fuels, such as the cooking oils be better for the environment with the greenhouse effect? Even if it doesn't help the environment, then it would be using less fossil fuels meaning that the fuels are left for better things. This would also be a cheaper method. It's amazing, the things you can transfer standard things, such as diesel too. Ah well, you learn new things everyday! its only byproduct of running it is h2o... nothing else spet frenchfry smelly exausht lol...
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CrazyShooter
Dec 23 2005, 04:05 PM
QUOTE(DeveloperX @ Dec 23 2005, 08:08 AM) information from
Bellonna
Biodiesel is exempt from diesel tax through special legislation in several European countries, including Germany, France, and Sweden. It has therefore become competitively priced and is sold in large quantities. Raising energy crops such as rapeseed, which is possible in Norway, yields a protein-rich fiber as the main product, and oil as a by-product. In other words, there is a great potential in biodiesel for development in both the farming and renewable energy industries. Pure biodiesel in Norway is currently not taxed. This is because the government wishes to make it easier to introduce renewable biofuel to the Norwegian market. Using biodiesel reduces the exhaust of particles/soot by 40% and eliminates emissions of SO2 . For now, biodiesel that is blended in mineral oil is taxable if the oil is considered to be mineral oil. This is a result of the government's resolution on taxing mineral oil. The Ministry of Finance and Customs -(FIN) has determined that a mixture of up to 5% Rapeseed Methylic Ether (RME) in mineral oil does not result in the oil losing its character of being mineral oil (letter to Hydro Texaco AS, Nov. 23, 1998). The government has therefore taxed blended biodiesel accordingly. It is not feasible to run a vehicle on pure biodiesel today, as there is no fuel distribution network. To develop such a network would be costly and require major changes in today's infrastructure, which means that allowing biodiesel to go untaxed is not enough of an incentive to encourage further development of this alternative fuel. A step towards achieving environmentally-sound fuel would be to blend biodiesel with mineral oil, as is done in France. Biodiesel is just as renewable, and has just as low emissions per volume, regardless of whether it is used in its pure form or if it is mixed with diesel. This means that the environmental benefits are the same per liter for both pure and blended biodiesel, since they are basically the same, so to tax blended biodiesel is contradictory to the basic principle of greater tax on fuels that pollute more. Allthought this is true it is also illigeal. My dad ustu do it and his car smelt of oil. It was pretty funny at the time 
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DeveloperX
Dec 23 2005, 08:08 AM
information from
Bellonna
Biodiesel is exempt from diesel tax through special legislation in several European countries, including Germany, France, and Sweden. It has therefore become competitively priced and is sold in large quantities. Raising energy crops such as rapeseed, which is possible in Norway, yields a protein-rich fiber as the main product, and oil as a by-product. In other words, there is a great potential in biodiesel for development in both the farming and renewable energy industries. Pure biodiesel in Norway is currently not taxed. This is because the government wishes to make it easier to introduce renewable biofuel to the Norwegian market. Using biodiesel reduces the exhaust of particles/soot by 40% and eliminates emissions of SO2 . For now, biodiesel that is blended in mineral oil is taxable if the oil is considered to be mineral oil. This is a result of the government's resolution on taxing mineral oil. The Ministry of Finance and Customs -(FIN) has determined that a mixture of up to 5% Rapeseed Methylic Ether (RME) in mineral oil does not result in the oil losing its character of being mineral oil (letter to Hydro Texaco AS, Nov. 23, 1998). The government has therefore taxed blended biodiesel accordingly. It is not feasible to run a vehicle on pure biodiesel today, as there is no fuel distribution network. To develop such a network would be costly and require major changes in today's infrastructure, which means that allowing biodiesel to go untaxed is not enough of an incentive to encourage further development of this alternative fuel. A step towards achieving environmentally-sound fuel would be to blend biodiesel with mineral oil, as is done in France. Biodiesel is just as renewable, and has just as low emissions per volume, regardless of whether it is used in its pure form or if it is mixed with diesel. This means that the environmental benefits are the same per liter for both pure and blended biodiesel, since they are basically the same, so to tax blended biodiesel is contradictory to the basic principle of greater tax on fuels that pollute more.
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DeveloperX
Dec 23 2005, 08:03 AM
Some interesting facts about Biodiesel (Vegetable Oil).Biodiesel is produced from renewable raw materials. Biodiesel is free from sulphur (< 0,001 %).Biodiesel greatly reduces carbon emissions (by up to approx. 50 %) Biodiesel releases approximately the same amount of CO2 during its combustion as the rapeseed has absorbed during its growth (so with an almost neutral Carbon Cycle). Biodiesel does not contain any benzene or other aromatic compounds. Biodiesel reduces hydrocarbon emissions (in particular the emission of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons). Biodiesel is easily biodegradable with no hazard to soil or groundwater in the case of accidents. Biodiesel is not classified as a hazardous substance (Flash Point approx. 170°C). Biodiesel has excellent lubrication properties which reduce engine wear. Biodiesel is an environmentally friendly alternative to mineral diesel This information from biodiesel.de
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Cerebral Stasis
Dec 19 2005, 11:13 PM
No, you'll never get enough energy out of the wind power being absorbed by any turbine on a moving car to make up for any energy lost. The extra drag and such would equal the energy out so that you'd be getting no advantage. As for the water, the problem is that, aside from currents, there is very little movement in the ocean water; waves only disturb the surface.
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Plenoptic
Dec 19 2005, 10:33 PM
QUOTE Concerning water and wind electricity, true it's free and it's renewable, but it's not always avaliable (for winds die down and rivers dry up). As for the water we could use some of the ocean's water but we would have to filter out the salt and stuff so they would put a cost on that. The thing about wind is that once you get enough power in wind to get it started as you drive there is more wind because you are flying through the air. If the car can hold the energy of the wind and use it to get started that is all it needs. It could take a bit of research but I think eventually it'll work. It might be a little more expensive car though but I don't know. It would take a bit of experimenting.
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