Read Latest Entries..: (Post #18) by saitunes on Sep 21 2008, 03:45 AM. (Line Breaks Removed)
That really isn't right. I mean singling you out, and from the sounds of it he gave you a look as he said 'not Hanukkah' And the Politcally correct term I think is 'holiday break' I mean over here in Australia a principal got in trouble for wishing their students 'merry christmas' apparently it's meant to be 'happy holidays'... read more.
Here is some background info: My english teacher is a german canadian christian. I am a russian jew who immigrated here 10 years ago. So anyway, I am talking to my friend Drew about how I am gonna be on vacation for winter break, right? Then my teacher interjects and says "i think it should be called christmas break because we are breaking for christmas, not hanukkah (looks at me) or Kwaanza (looks at some black kid in my class) because we are breaking for christmas which is the most important holiday"
What an <<removed>>!!!! I just want to punch him in his fat ugly canadian face. I hope he chokes on his morning cup of joe, eh?
Notice from BuffaloHELP:
We all can see the problem with this teacher but no need to use foul language in our forum to bypass the censor. Editing title as well.
Just to float few of my points here: By you calling him/her "fat Canadian" are you not also being prejudice? You are singling out that it's Canadian verses Russian.
I believe your rant should be focused on why he/she was singling and referring to people as though each holiday celebrations were only observed by each student? I mean it could be that your teacher didn't want to offend anyone by leaving out the proper cultural holiday names. I know a Jewish kid that celebrates Christmas. And a white South African family who celebrates Kwaanza. And look at it this way, your teacher probably have something to prove--prove his condolences. He/she is a German addressing an African and a Russian (who happens to be Jewish also). I would be mortified to face you if I was a German, given the past history. Right?
Give some room for understanding and give that teacher of yours a chance. Sometimes people mean the right thing but it comes out all wrong. And perhaps there's more tension between you two that you immediately mistook his well intension... I am not defending anyone. But we need more room for understanding if we're to beat any animosity between races, creeds and/or social class.
i realy agree with you about punching him/her in the face... i mean comeone you are teacher rasist how would that afect on lots of kids... if i was in your place i would probobly go to the principle and tell him all about that thing... so teacher will going to hate you more then ever ( nah.. not so bad, you can allways hate him more ) or he would hate you but you will have the best marks and noone will know that he dont likes you
Just few days ago we got new teacher from Philozophy ( i just bought her a drink in disco ) and she is the biggest rasist in town.... At first class she sad that Juda ( the guy that sold Jesus ) was a gipsy And then she sad that last Philozophy profesor was bad guy becouse he was an Bulgarian... and we sad like .. so wath if he is Bulgarian... and she's like : :So you wont to say to me that Bulgars are good people." I couldnt belive So after some classes we sad our Profesor of math all about that and she sad tath she cant do anything and that she and her colegues are a little a scared of this new profesor... *darn*... i hate my country !
Well you teacher is right we are breaking for Chritmas but if he is making racist remarks you can sew them and that is the altumete revenge. ANd i am russian too and i never met anyone who is Russian Jewish thats cool that you are Russian and Jewsish my teacher is Jewish and she gave us a lexture about the Jewish colture and she got sewed bc she is not spoosed to give lextures in math about religon and I liked it but at the end she made a remark saying that Jews are better than Christians and that really made me angry. Well she got fiered and all the kids in class(christians) stared cussing at her and it was really not right i actually enjoyed to find out about Jewish people but when she said what her culture is better that others it made me think.....
I agree with BuffaloHELP, I understand how you could be upset, but not having heard the tone used I'd say it could be a take at not trying to upset you. That being said if this was said as an insult, or even a personal opinion gone to far, you might want to tell someone of authority, say the principal. Now if you could do it all again, and (just in case it backfired) didn't have anything to do over winter break, you could have told him, "Okay if Hanukkah isn't important, then I will be here on December 25th, and I expect you to be here to teach me, that's your job!" And as far as getting in trouble for talking back, oh well, just threaten to sue the school, people have been sued for religious discrimination, especially coming from a figure of authority. Also by fat ugly Canadian face I hope you mean that his face is fat and ugly, and by chance he just happens to be Canadian, because just as you were told that Hanukkah is less important, and that upset you, being told that Canadians are all fat and ugly upsets me.
Argh! That's so mean!!! I don't celebrate christmas, and I certainly don't think it's the most importatnt hoilday ever. But if I thought otherwise, I wouldn't say it out loud. That's totally offensive! How rude!!! Getting pretty angry because I don't celebrate christmas, really. It's called winter break on the caledars, not Chirstmas break. If it was, we wouldn't be getting 11 days off from school. Jeez. Not saying I hate christmas or anything like that.
IMHO moldboy and buffalo are wrong. I mean come on, the teacher blatantly butt into a conversation (which he/she weren't part of) between two friends and then started to single out two students who didn't celebrate christmass. It seems like this teacher had made it their job to annoy you but then again maybe they didn't mean it or it came out wrong. Or maybe they are genuingly predjudice. I'm sure you know by now that nowhere where in the world you go or whatever race/colour/religion you are there is always someone that seems to hate you based on those criteria, even though they don't even know you.
"The most important holiday?" Now that's not a bigoted remark (N.B. exponential sarcasm). Your teacher only seems to make matters worse when he singles both you and the other out. Have you told him you were offended?
Although it is probably true that the American Public School system was designed to break exclusively for Christmas, seeing as how the majority of Americans are, or at least were, Christians at the time of its establishment. There is no need however for him, as it seems to have effected, attack you. If you are indeed attending American Public School, I don't think he's even allowed to say that. As much as I hate having to analyse everything that escapes my lips anymore to make sure that it's politically correct in today's society, your situation seems to have crossed the line. If you haven't already, I would confront him about this.
Ugh! People like that make me so sick to my stomach.. I know a few racist people who deny they're racist no matter what! A few people in my class are racist,they make fun of the fact that I'm part asian and they'll make fun of every race but themselves to no end.. But on wanting to punch your teacher in the face I have to wholeheartedly agree on that but..teachers are very..evil.Do one tiny little thing wrong and they're write you up or or get you into some trouble as much as they can..
That really isn't right. I mean singling you out, and from the sounds of it he gave you a look as he said 'not Hanukkah'
And the Politcally correct term I think is 'holiday break' I mean over here in Australia a principal got in trouble for wishing their students 'merry christmas' apparently it's meant to be 'happy holidays'
I will complain about my teacher too. We have just been learning about society, norms, how to behave in different situations, socialising etc. When we were learning about socialising my teacher asked the class this question: "Is it better for children to go to kindergarten og stay at home with their parents/mum/dad/grandparents?" Every single one said "kindergarten", but our teacher looked weird at us. "Staying at home with parents or family is the best", he said. We started argumenting that it was a lot better for children to go to kindergarten, because there they would meet other children as well as grown-ups and socialise with them.
But no, of course our teacher continues saying that staying at home was the best, bla bla bla. "Why?" we said. "That is not very logic?" The idiot answers "Because I say so. I teach this class and I know more than you. Therefore I am right."
I mean come on! Give us a logic reason. Staying at home with for example grandparents with opinions from WW2 does not sound very good.
It seems to me from reading the first post and skimming through the rest of the posts in this thread that there are three separate issues involved here:
Should he have said what he said?
Should he have said what he said to whom he said it?
Should he have said what he said where and when he said it?
These three issues are totally separate and should be dealt with as such. Firstly, I understand that the original poster, semeticsister is from the USA, and so no matter that the teacher is a German Canadian Christian, they were in America at the time, where I believe you still have 'Freedom of Speech' and therefore the comment is just as allowable as any other inflammatory utterance. They do still have 'Freedom of Speech' in the USA don't they? You don't have to agree with what he said, but as a good American citizen you should be defending his right to say it anyway.
Next is the issue of choosing your audience carefully. Others in this thread have already mentioned how thoughtless and uncaring this teacher was in making the comment in front of people of other faiths. Freedom of Speech is all very nice, but as a white person I wouldn't go exercising my right to Freedom of Speech, for instance, by promoting the KKK or white supremacy if I was alone in Bronx, unless I want to get my head smashed in! No, with rights comes responsibilities. If you choose to exercise your rights then you have to be prepared for the consequences.
This leads into the third aspect, that of where and when it was said. While you may have Freedom of Speech, you need to remember who it is that you are representing at the time also. This man was a teacher, and therefore he represented the school and the school district to his students. Personal comments and opinions have no place in such an establishment. He is welcome to exercise his civil liberties outside of class time, but when he's at work he should stick to the curriculum.
I may have this all wrong, being that I'm not American myself, but this is my perspective on it and I'm happy to be corrected.
That is truly sick. Especially to hear it from someone who is supose to teach people, and set an example. They should be teaching children to accept all religeon/backgrounds ect. I really cant understand or stantd these people. If they are going to say things like that, they should get out of teaching. Fast!
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) or he would hate you but you will have the best marks and noone will know that he dont likes you 
my teacher is Jewish and she gave us a lexture about the Jewish colture and she got sewed bc she is not spoosed to give lextures in math about religon and I liked it but at the end she made a remark saying that Jews are better than Christians and that really made me angry. Well she got fiered and all the kids in class(christians) stared cussing at her and it was really not right i actually enjoyed to find out about Jewish people but when she said what her culture is better that others it made me think.....
