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You're gonna have to be more informative if you want our help. What you provided is far too general to even know where to begin. What has happened in his life that he should be considering death? He must feel there's no meaning in his life anymore to be considering such a thing. But still, why...? Why does he think/believe that?
Perhaps your friend is unintentionally seeking an attention of some sort. Affection received from self-pity can be rewarding. And it can be addictive, too. I hava a friend who never has a good thing to say about her life. She likes it when she receives comments like, awww, I'm so sorry to hear that. It is her way of socializing with people around her. I guess this is the only way she knows how to be social or break the ice. Sometimes an action is greater than words. Just being there for that person can make the difference. Carefully monitoring your friend's behavior and make him known that his friendship means a lot to you. Men tend to be more sociable through activites unlike our counter parts--women. I guess we still possess a primitive pack behavior. Confronting head on is less effective than blurting out during a happy hour at a local pub or whatever. Let's face it, we men do not talk about our feelings like Dr. Phil. One thing I'd like to post is that you cannot be the savior to this person. One person does not possess the power to fix everything. Like the winter snow covers the fagile seedling, your friend will face many other crushing defeats in his life time. But when the spring comes and snow melts away, this seedling can survive if the soil is accomodating. Your friend must be able to find his own balance and foundation that defines him. You can help him to find that ground or supply the means of finding one. But you can't watch over him 24/7. Otherwise you too can grow weary and maybe forced to give up.
@truefusion: Sorry, his girlfriend is always mad at him he says, and she keeps threatining to dump him. His mom and dad split up, and his brother went to Iraq. That's some of the stuff he tells me a lot.
@buffaloHELP: Thanks for that post man, it was really helpful. He doesn't seem to be seeking attention, it just seems like he's deppressed more than anything, it's probably part of his "growing up" from turning 18/19 to 20. You know? Thank you both for you help so far. 
It seems the best thing to do is to just be there with and for him, whenever possible. Everyone may leave him, but he may acknowledge that you're here to stay. Be sad when he's sad, and be happy when he's happy. Sure, it's humanly impossible to be always faithful, but he may acknowledge your efforts in trying to be there for him. There's not much i can say, i've never had a friend that made it known to me that they were considering suicide.
I've never been in your situation, so I have no real advice for you. I just wanted to say, though, that it sounds like you really care about your friend. Good for you. I hope and pray that you keep caring and that your friend makes it through everything that's going on right now.
even if he just say it and don't really mean it.or even if he may seek for a little attention.I think you should take any chance.I think you need to help him and maybe talk to someone about it.you never know if he's going to do it for real or not.so If I were you I wouldn't take any chance.
Suicide for me is the worst thing a human can do. It is just pointless, is giving up but then you have no chance to try anything again. I just cant understand, what makes a person decide to suicide? no one knows what comes after death, there may be a worse thing that what that person is going trough but many people still do it. Im sure i will never think about commiting suicide, because i fear death
 You should tell to your friend, that he can do anything else on his life rather than suicide, if he is planning to. Whatever problem he may be having now, will be resolved by itself with the time, this may be just a hard moment, but not a impossible one Well, if you make him think about how much would affect his death to his family and friends, he will change his mind. But first make sure that what you think is right, he may not even want to suicide 
Good points, guys.
I talked to him, he seems to have calmed down a bit, but any more ideas are welcome and I will use your guy's advice if he starts to do this again.
Suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem. Usually.
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I've actually considered suicide.
I didn't do it for attention because I hated attention. I don't usually talk about things because I don't like burdening people with my problems that only I can make a difference in. I started thinking about suicide because I was super-hard on myself. And it took being in the army as an armorer with an M9 Beretta and a full magazine of 9mm rounds sitting on my desk to realize that I was going too far on being harsh on myself. People think of suicide for different reasons. I, almost being stereotypically Asian, was ashamed of myself and of my failures and mistakes. I was always striving for excellence, for perfection. It took me a while, but I finally had the self-realization that suicide was a stupid answer and a coward's way out of the problems that were bothering me. A lot of people just feel like they don't have anything to live for because of the events happening around them. There's no real way to really help anyone but to help them help themselves. Once you convince that person that things happen, it's normal to feel the way he or she feels, and that the future can bring in possible relief but suicide will prevent you from ever knowing, I think that one may recuperate and continue to live life. There's always a way around things. Soldiers come back from Iraq. Those that don't gave their lives for something noble, and your friend should rest assured that he or she can be proud of that. Relationships come and go. It sucks, but everyone finds someone eventually. Patience is a virtue most overlooked. (Heck, even I'm tired of waiting, but I'll wait even longer if it turns out to be worth the wait.) There are literally TONS of people to meet in one's lifetime as there are fish in the sea. I hate using cliche answers, and everyone hates them, but it's usually the way to make an analogous answer that will hopefully help someone realize the bigger picture, that life is worth living. The best thing that you can do, though, is LISTEN. I'm sure you knew that by now, though. Be an outlet for him or her to vent. "Understand" what he or she is going through and sympathize. I hope your friend comes out of the rut. QUOTE(JDameron91 @ Feb 23 2007, 10:10 PM)  Hi everyone. I was just thinking about suicide, no, not commiting it. Because my friend is always talking about killing himself. I was just curious to see if any of you had any ideas of what I can/should say to him to help him, without making it worse. He has been speaking of it more and more lately and I'm just a little bit worried.  Thank you all for you help.  well ive had many friends think about doing the same, thing and my suggestion to you is to talk to them, make sure that they are aware, that YOU are there for them, they are eather a.feel like life is not getting any better... ready to give up b.feel alone c.something happened that is bothering them d.someone is tormenting them e.etc etc just be there for them, show them how good life is/can be, make them laugh, do something, even scream at them if you have to tell them that: "Suicide is final – once it's done, there’s no changing your mind. You can always kill yourself later, why not wait? Even if you wait just one day, you may find a reason not to kill yourself in the meantime. Consider this – if you’re trying to escape from the pain you are in and seek relief, suicide is not the answer. You cannot feel relief, or anything else for that matter, if you are dead. You must stay alive in order to feel the relief you seek. By terminating your life right now, you terminate your future. Consider this – we create our own future. You have the power to create whatever future you wish for yourself. But you need to be alive in order to have that future. f you’re sensitive enough to be in so much pain that you no longer want to live, you’re probably sensitive enough to care about, and want to help others. Maybe you don’t feel like helping anyone else right now, but why not help yourself? And perhaps by not killing yourself and overcoming your difficulties you can later help someone else who is in a similar situation." and lastly, make them think about all the people who do believe them, and care, grandparents, parents, friends, little siblings and wat not, DEATH is not the answer! anyone reading this PLEASE HELP STOP SUICIDE PLEASE HELP STOP SUICIDE PLEASE HELP STOP SUICIDE PLEASE HELP STOP SUICIDE /giselle QUOTE(jlhaslip @ Feb 24 2007, 07:04 AM) Suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem. Usually. it is very true but even God forbide it those that commit it will be burnt in hell fire so i dont advise any one to commit sucide some countrys even forbide it and punish the coursp ofthe individual who did it
Suicide is scary, it struck my mind (as much as we all know EVERYONE has thought about it).
It was a few years ago (or maybe 1-2 to be exact) I went through a lot of *BLEEP* at school, people calling me stuff for no reason, spreading rumors about me and making up lame jokes, even sometimes trying to beat me up (aka Physically push me to a limit). These people - I hope they one day DIE of the (whatever) worst possible way to die!!  I don't know what stopped me from killing myself then... NO ONE stood up for me, maybe a few blokes at school were saying "just ignore them, man. they're losers anyway." or that ONE TIME I remember a guy in my paralell class stood up and started hitting the guy who attacked me (again - for no reason, but the thing is - Someone stood up for me!). *Sigh* So I took the smallest / ONLY memories I had of people who would actually give a *BLEEP* about me and that kept me from doing whatever first sucidal thought flew into my mind. Also - I know my parents and siblings would be crushed and i'd ruin their lives too... So don't give in! Just ignore them, and try to fit in other places. It sucks - May the BULLIES DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH!!
Honestly,
(Sorry parents this may scare you) I don't honestly know a single person who hasn't deeply considered it or have tried to do it. I am opening admiting i have. My friends will also openly admit it, the reason i am able to is because yes i had my low, but i was able to make it out. I have been there and i know that having someone you know will still like you and be your friend. even if they did try to kill themselfs, it really helps. It helps to have a oulet. All my friends call me when they are considering it becaiuse everyone knows that i have been there, i am glad they do, since i started telling people i havent lost a single friend. I am in no way ashamed of this, if you were honest with your self i am pretty sure you have wanted to and have considered it. But anyways if anyone is threating it be there for them, theres a reason for it and see if you can find it out and try to help. - John Sorry parents but it is true
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