Read Latest Entries..: (Post #30) by rpgsearcherz on Oct 19 2008, 05:52 PM. (Line Breaks Removed)
These are actually quite good ideas.There are a couple of issues with the whole "more credits based on views and rating" though. All you would have to do is form secret alliances(lol...Sounds like a conspiracy) and then have a lot of people always go to your threads and give them high ratings/post in them often.Whether that would actually happen or not I don't know, but it is a defin... read more.
Although its been a long time since it was first announced that a version 3 of the credit system was announced to various people. This topic gave me a great idea and a reason for this topic. That is what would you like to see in the version 3 of the credit system, let it be updates to current features or new ideas post them here and give details as to why you want this change or to make an update to the credit system.
Not to take from saitunes topic about this, but sending an email or a pm that persom is about to hit 0 credits is a great idea and I would say that when a person hits 5 credits they get a reminder that they need to post to get more credits. Then when they hit 0 credits they are sent a email or pm that their account is suspended and that they need to start posting again or after 30 days their account will be terminated
Which leads into my next suggestion, I know there are a lot of accounts with more then -30 credits and so what I suggest bring that limit back and terminate their accounts, because trying to make up -50+ credits is a huge task that will take awhile for someone to get their hosting account back and this also frees up systems resources as well.
By now everyone is familiar with the manage page and so I leave this open end question and that is what can be done to improve that page as well. So think about can be done to improve the system to make it run faster and more efficient and of course no crazy ideas like earning credits in the shoutbox, we asked, it won't happen .
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Another idea that just came to me from the boss himself and I know this one was talked about for a long time and that is earning credits based on topic views and topic replies. Of course to add to OpaQue idea and I know it won't fly is set it up to do a recount of the forum and then add the credits according to all the topics that have been made, imagine the huge spike of credits everyone will have because of that .
Like I said though I doubt that suggestion will fly because a lot of those credits would be wasted to members who are no longer here and of course the fact everyone would have ton of credits and odds are stop posting. However, on the other spectrum of this idea I think a rate of .05 credit per 5 or 10 replies would seem reasonable to that. Of course, the interesting part of this would be to how not to count the original posters replies in that equation since that person could just spam their own topic to get those credits.
May I ask a question? Probably not, but I will do it anyway. Why is that that the more credits we have the less we get per post? I have never understood that part.
If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.
You can ask questions bluebear and as for your question the number of credits you receive is based on your post count and of course what member group you are in. So maybe that is another idea and that we get rid of the post count rules and make everyone on a equal playing field while still keeping the member group credit rule intact.
Probably not, but I will do it anyway. Why is that that the more credits we have the less we get per post? I have never understood that part.
So you don't make 2,000 credits and then not come back for 2,000 days. Obviously, it's better if you keep coming back every few days so you stay up-to-date with all the latest developments etc...
QUOTE(Bluebear @ Aug 20 2008, 05:11 PM)
If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.
And no, I have no new ideas.
So you get x% of the credits gained in total by the repliers. That sounds pretty complicated to me, not to mention the fact it will encourage people to link-drop their own topics (ie spam).
The key to a good system, in my mind, is to keep it simple so I have no new ideas.
On a side note, how did you manage to start a new topic in this forum? Even I can't do that
The miracles of science electriic ink , but anyway that was the main concerns when OpaQue mention about awards credits for replies and stuff and of course thats why I mention about how not to award credits to that persons reply while still earning credits for his or her post.
An ability to "pause" your account, i.e. Your hosting account basically gets suspended but isn't terminated... After a set time the account becomes "unsuspended" During suspension, you don't lose any credits and to make it so that people won't abuse this feature don't or slowly get credits (i.e. only 60% of what you'd get for a 100 words or so).
Also another idea... To increase Trap17's popularity maybe install the "Army System" modification for IPB and let the members play and maybe the highest-ranking person is exempt to the credit deduction rule or something.
But the thing is... I would much rather a "account suspension" since I don't really need my website right now and I'm very busy trying to keep my account still active. The only problem with terminating my account is that I still sometimes use my account to test things out on a live server so I can't termainte it...
Well I can tell you on that Army system, that created havoc with trap17 4 years ago because of how many people were playing and the glitches that were coming from it and sucking up resources as well with all the data that is saved as well. That is why IPBgaming.com was formed, although, it was long since dead and the people that were expecting join from trap17 to this site for the army system was because of how many people stopped leaving altogether.
As for the pause feature it seems to make sense, although the first feature of not being able to earn credits would make the most sense. Although there would be one problem them, if you have good site that is getting a lot hits and is well index you be losing visitors and getting your website booted out. Either way there are some interesting idea's being brought but still looking for thought so keep them coming.
If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.
And no, I have no new ideas.
I think that wouldn't be a problem, what kind of replies you get to your topic, if the system for replies would be based on the normal system for posting.
How I would imagine it to be, you would get, say 1% from the values of the replies in your topic, and not something based on how many they are. So, if a reply is good and gets more credits, you get more credits.
And that might be even easier to implement now than another counting idea. When somebody submits a post, he gets, for example 2 credit points, and in the same time 0.02 credits (1%) goes to the starter of the topic he posted in.
And the initiator spamming in his topic... That wouldn't also be a problem........ He would get only a bit extra credit, and if he would manage to keep the discussion in the topic alive, that would be a good thing for trap17, as it would bring more and more content. That's the idea after all.
But anyway I think this 'credits-for-replies' would be overall a good thing for trap.
[sidenote: so, Saint-Michael, you started this topic because the system is already applied? ]
But we need to understand that the credit system is OpaQue's brain child and can be coded, configured and handled only by him. Credit system 3 too will be coded by OpaQue and no one so we might have to wait for a bit before it comes online..
Now coming to the ideas :-
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Not to take from saitunes topic about this, but sending an email or a pm that persom is about to hit 0 credits is a great idea and I would say that when a person hits 5 credits they get a reminder that they need to post to get more credits. Then when they hit 0 credits they are sent a email or pm that their account is suspended and that they need to start posting again or after 30 days their account will be terminated
This is a good idea and am sure will be possible as a similar feature is used for Feedbacker (Iguest) where a guest is send an email with the link to the topic.
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If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.
Like electriic and SM said, we do not want any spammers coming here posting one liners and then teleporting to another dimension. The main reason that OpaQue had tweaked the Credit system in this way is because he firmly believes in nothing but quality. Quality posts = Quality hosting. Spammers do not get hosting.. well except for one spammer I guess
There is no point of a forum if there is nobody to participate in it, It would merely turn into a bank where you deposit/withdraw your money and then never visit it.. Trap17 was designed to provide knowledge and encourage friendship through quality
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An ability to "pause" your account, i.e. Your hosting account basically gets suspended but isn't terminated... After a set time the account becomes "unsuspended" During suspension, you don't lose any credits and to make it so that people won't abuse this feature don't or slowly get credits (i.e. only 60% of what you'd get for a 100 words or so).
An excellent and very useful idea but the most difficult to implement as it would involve a LOT of coding to make sure that credits are not deducted, to automatically suspend upon the click of a button and so on..
Instead of that I can always recommend that you deposit all of your credits in your bank(manage page) and then send a support request mentioning the period of inactivity and your login details. We will make an arrangement so that your site is not terminated but simply suspended..
There are a couple of issues with the whole "more credits based on views and rating" though. All you would have to do is form secret alliances(lol...Sounds like a conspiracy) and then have a lot of people always go to your threads and give them high ratings/post in them often.
Whether that would actually happen or not I don't know, but it is a definite possibility.
I want to say thanks for the clarification on why credits are obtained slower as you post more. I was really curious about this because I got up to ~30 at one point and from then on was getting like .3 per post instead of 1-2. You helped me understand why though.
So you don't make 2,000 credits and then not come back for 2,000 days.
I still see Saint_Michael here I think that the credits should be displayed in a member's postbit, like iTrader in vBulletin, just so that others can see if you are just coming here when your credits are down. I know that this has been suggested, but more points if you post 1 post a day as opposed to seven posts for one day in a week. It will encourage people to come here and check back more often, then to just come here and post for a few hours and take the week off. I, of course, use this forum to host my website, but I'm not going to be one of those losers who comes here JUST for hosting and their posts are a one liner that was probably copied and pasted. Don't be one of those people
I think there should be some sort of reward if we choose to post in our site advertisment of trap17 and/or our blogs or whhatever means of comunication...that has a counting system like if I have a blog and many people visit it daily and I have an advertisment then that means a lot of publicity has been made for trap17...or like If I post in myspace or facebook advertisment of trap17...of course in our own account not on somebodys else...because to be honest this is forum has a lot of integrity and I will rather post an avertisment of trap17 than of viagra and etc etc...just my thoughts
Okay... so my quick-and-dirty suggestion was kind of... dirty.
What I'm now primarily concerned with now though is the whole deal where ALL of your present credits are wiped out after signing up to be hosted. I shouldn't really have to worry about it, but 1800+ credits down the drain just because I missed the memo would not exactly make me happy when I do decide on hosting...
Can that be a HUGE suggestion towards the new credit system?
I think the rating-credit system is easily exploitable, and shouldn't be implemented...
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Also consider a "credit bank" where a user can store his or her's credits safely and all the credits inside the "bank" aren't affected by the fifteen-minutley deduction of credits and that they would be able to take them out at will. The idea may seem a bit "unnecessary" but it would be a very good comeback for people that somehow "forget" about Trap17 for a while and go under lets say... -25 credits. Their hosting is on the verge of extinction. And they don't have the time to post. They open up the Credit System and go into their bank and pull out lets say 30 credits they put in there earlier.
Other solution: Don't put 30 credits in bank. The user will have 5 credits.
Also note that there is already a credit bank.. whether you can transfer from the bank to yourself is another question - and there is 3% surcharge on transfers, so you'd lose 3% (or 5.91%?) of your initial deposit to commission when sending to the bank and then to yourself.
Edit) Credit transfers: When you try to transfer credits, if you don't have enough it tells you how many you have minus 30 as the maximum you can transfer. This is incorrect due to the 3% commision. What should be displayed is (curr - 30)/1.03. A fix would be useful
On a side note though, and I know OpaQue and Velma have been thinking about this, how much of a dent
in profits will this actually do to computinghost though? I ask since I know I am one of the few
who have a large credit balance, i is one of those if if I could I would and of course if I tell
friends about it I be tempted to tell them about the work around. Not saying I would though,
because most people don't have that kind of time to do it and it comes to my opinion that this
should be an exclusive to trap17 and astahost members and just like in the old system I ....
Hey. I have a little suggestion that is way better then our original/current table bbcodes.
Example: QUOTE Image or text here this would show a table with cells. Information:
Used to create a table, you need to manually add tr and td tags for the rows and cells after you
have inserted this tag. (ignore the "table=1". It's just table.) Screenshot: So how about
this? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Second:
Will you ever get ImageFilez.com working? It displays a large SQL error. CODE Table ....
Maybe trap17 should make a special code, when requested you can add it to your side and an add of
trap 17 is added at the top of your page. Each time the add is viewed you get 0.01 credits.....
Hi I Have some suggetions for Posting credit reward 1) a free .com domain redirection facility 2)
increase bandwidth and space and add some extra features to account. i know you provide a .com
domain for 250 credits but it would be more attractive if u can just provide a .com redirection to
existing subdomain for 100 or more credits.add some extra features for 50-100 credits. Also There
should be some tips to members how to post i mean requirements of the good post i know there are
guidlines but its confusing to newbies so if they are not posting like as desired they....
How about that Trap17 limits maximum number of posts that you can get credits for in one day? My
suggestion would be limiting posts that count for credits at 3 a day /rolleyes.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> . I really
don't know how to explain this idea, it's just something that came to my mind.. What do you
guys think?....
I haven't had hosting on trap17 for a while, mainly because of my computinghost hosting. I
recently was thinking about starting another trap17 subdomain, but i dont think i'm going to do
it because I have 130 credits stored up, and if i request for hosting they get reset /sad.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> I really don't understnad
the point to this "feature". anybody mind elaborating on the purpose for this, and hopefully remove
it? ~alex....
QUOTE(Saint_Michael @ Apr 3 2007, 09:52 AM) 317453 Hopefully the next suprise will be that
OpaQue will give anyone a uber computer for like 2000 credits /laugh.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />. Actually after looking
at the FAQ brings up another question bare with me on this. What if you got hosting somewhere else
say like astahost or quipis or some other webhosting place, couldn't you just go ahead and
generate the credits as a regular member and then when you get the 250 ge the domain and then just
transfer it ....
(I looked this up in the search, and didn't find anything. Sorry if its already a topic) I
think GFX crew, mods, spam patrol, and other should get a small bonus to there credits per post. So,
for example, I post one sentence as a normal user/hosted member i get 1 credit. A GFX crew member or
other special member would get 1.5-2. I know its by content and length and stuff, but you know what
i mean. I was thinking also, what about GFX and spam patrol people who help out with extra stuff?
For example, someone requests a sig/header/layout whatever (each could be a diffe....
I can't believe I just thought of after so long of being here. this is a simple code it terms
of the idea but implentmenting it could be a challange but of course that would depend what need to
be involoved. To help people get good posts we should implent a credit counter somewhere in the
post saying how much the post is worth. This way people can either edit their post to add on to it
if they can (of course it has to be legit and all that). Also it will help learn that that better
quality post is the best way to go any thoughts? Counter Mod Plan -Counter....
I know that my suggestions are purely unnecessary, they may improve the image of the Hosting account
Center (all of the pages under http://www.trap17.com/process) . I thought that a few changes could
be made to the design and function of those pages: -Provide a login common to all pages - instead of
typing your username and password at each task page, have users log in upon the access of
http://www.trap17.com/process/ , and present a task list. -Beautify the pages a wee bit - add a bit
of layout, and add some design elements - even just a banner similar to the one at t....
First you should a selection of nice skins. This skin gets boring after a while. You'll get more
members if you have good skins. You should also have armysystem and arcade etc... so that members
can playing games after they are done posting........
Hi everyone, As from the forum details/rules/news etc, it is clear that the revenue comes from the
advertisers, opening the forum and even clicking (without posting anything)can do the job. In my
opinion credits should be awarded for Opening Page and browsing. And ofcourse QUALITY POSTING.
This way no body will be tempted to post unnecessarytopic/spam etc. Admin, please correct me if I
am mistaken. Thanks.}}....
I don't know about other people, but when i choose to subscribe to a topic I always choose the
same exact method of notification (in my case, none at all). It'd be rather nice to have an
option to set a predefined choice in order to cut down on all the needless repitition. Certainly not
a huge problem, but it'd be nice. It'd also be nice if the topics you subscribed to were
listed on the mainpage of the control panel. It already lists recently viewed posts (which is kinda
pointless in my humble opinion), so why not add that as well? Thankyou for you....
Does Trap17 celebrate the members on their birthday by giving them some credits? I think it would be
a good idea. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0"
alt="rolleyes.gif" />....
Reference: QUOTE I guess that the doesn't work then? Maybe add the note= and change the
colours, then you will have both of them available for different purposes. One to attract attention
and the other to be used on warnings, etc. ie: one for all users to use and another for mods/admins
only??? Jlhaslip was refering to my forum and stuff, but what if Trap17 would add another
version of the Note Feature. Like at my IPB, I have one for moderators giving messages, and one of
giving warnings, bans, and stuff of that nature. Basicly: Version 1 Used for gi....
I've asked about this before, and I feel that I got a subpar response for the first item. So can
we have a credit counter on every page? With the amount of queries IPB is making to the DB anyways,
it shouldn't really hurt. Also, having a search box on all pages is really a timesaver, and also
a bandwidth saver. I find that the search page loads slowly, so it would be an excellent
consideration. I still love Trap17, even if it doesn't have these features.....
I was just wondering why is posting is the only way to get credits. Wouldn't it be nice if we
could get points by doing other things. For example recommending people gives you like 10 points or
maybe making a chat room (not shout box) and in that chat room ever time you say something you can
get for example .1-.5 credits, Trap17 can also place ads on hat chatroom to make money of it. I
think that building a chatroom will make getting points fun and not just annoying. I'm not
complaining and saying its to hard to get credits I would just like a fresh new way to ....
I have some good Ideas. I think we should have a button on the top of the forums that brings you
back to the forum index. Also, I think we should have a topsites list for trap17. There are many
good free ones out there, and I think it would be amazing. Think of how we would think of other
members? Joining would be optional. It would iclude the top 10 and baners for them in a nice little
table, and the rest can upload or provide an icon to the left if they are in the top 50, and the
rest are shown on a seperate page. What do you guys think of these ideas?....
I say you should create an online store with which you can sell say, top level domains for like,
2000 points or something, get rid of ads for 3500 points, something like that. I bet lots of people
would join this program... and smaller credit things, like a small increase in disk space, or an
extra MySQL database or another subdomain... Something of that sort. Just a suggestion, and
i'm pretty sure somebody else has probably already posted something to this effect. Just wanted
to see if any moderators or higher level staff here would be interested in this kind of....
I have been wondering - it will be really nice if we could have a spellcheck feature on these
forums. I'd personally like to quickly spell check my posts before sending them in. I know that
the "Preview" feature should suffice, and anyone really obsessed with spellchecking should probably
copy his(/her) post on a text editor and check it there. However, this is a facility I've been
used to on a few other forums, and it'll be a nice add-on. It would probably help members whose
first language is not English as well. I am not too sure about this one, but I'....
Why not you gives put the hosting credit system into a mod and make it available for us to download
and put them on our site with the copyright to you guys and a link? This will improve more members
to your forum and also help us? /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='laugh.gif' /> ....
My name is Darker333 and this is my first Suggestion post! Well, if you want to ENSURE activity,
then my suggestion is to really set up a meter that says how many credits you need to avoid a
certain day period before your account expires. Now, let's look at this: Current after Package
2: 21.6 Credits -.something per day. To keep your account alive, you need to stay away from the 0
by posting and when you post a lot of a long time the counter will stop going down, depending on
Admins approval. When the counter reaches 0.. BAM, you will get a 3-5 day notice saying....
Ok, this post will be quite long, I dunno of this such of post has been made by other member or not,
it’s all bout how trap17 should deal with hosting credit and inactivity in forum. For one or more
reason someone can’t really connect to the internet, such as logical reasons here: 1. he doesn’t
have internet at home, so he only get connected while he is in school. What about if the school
having long time year break holiday? Two months? 2. His computer is blow up, but his father refuse
to repair it until he get a better grade on next semester. 3. He have a holiday on suc....
I can't reply in the announcement section and didn't see a topic so I am making this one.
Computing host suggestions: (1) Too many words on the index page. I can't be bothered to sift
through all that text. - No need to list ALL features of the hosting package. Just pick say the top
10 features that people care about. Put the details on the page with more information/comparison
page. - Emphasize your selling features. Is your strategy to be cheap and reliable? If so,
emphasize your 30 day money back guarentee and uptime information. Also, the pricing ....
Hey Guys, Just a few suggestions on/for Cpanel. How about a.. Improved search function- eg. search
for my posts by, date(s), topic, forum etc. from inside Cpanel. I've tried searching on my
username but it only returns the posts where I started the thread/topic -NOT any posts where I added
replys to other topics/posts. Hope this is clear. Getting my last 10 posts thru "mY Assistant" is
good but I can see the need for improved searching as the posts pile up. Good so as not to have to
remember so much where you've been etc. This would be good for the site also, a....
I don't know if you can or not but there is a new version of php website it is 10.0 and in the
cpanel is only 0.9.3.4 Can you upgrade or something because it is very big /biggrin.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> 20 mb /biggrin.gif"
style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I can't upload this?!
Maybe if I compress it but I don't know If I can unzip it on the host, please answer because I
need this portal /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif....
it would be nice to change the ib to 2.0 version and fit the google ads in the top table. this
would make forums easier (alot) to use. change the logo! it's so ugly! greetz.....
Well I just thought of something...the message board is a little bare at the moment. Shouldn't
the mods add a few more to cover other topics, especially in the Life category, say include one for
Sports, Media, Humor, even a Debates section where we can discuss important issues. The point here
being that with more topics, users will stay longer and not be stymied by lack of things to discuss.
Of course post count will be an issue, but in the long run we can help our webhost coz there's a
bigger chance of us right? /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" em....
Looking for suggestions, version, 3, credit, system
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