GM-University
May 19 2005, 01:14 AM
| | OK, my computer has recently become infected like crazy, I got a small littl adware program, it opened popups randomly, and slowely my PC has been crammed with over 150 programs that Norton's can't remove... I hav tried using a program called Bullet-Proof-Soft Spyware adware remover, but it generates errors trying to remove them, also Yahoo's Anti-Spyware software can't remove them either, well actually got rid of a few... These three are the most difficult to remove it seems...
QUOTE Trojan.Downloader.Win32.Istbar.ce ISTbar.XXXToolbar IBIS Toolbar The progrma that opened all of the pop-up was suposedly disable by Norton's still appears to be running if I check, can anyone help? |
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SystemWisdom
May 19 2005, 02:41 AM
Have you tried A.V.E.R.T Stinger? It is by a McAfee team and it is free.. It is mainly geared at removing Trojans, so maybe it will help you? Also, you could try NoAdware, but it isn't free, although it is worth the $30 for it..
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Tyssen
May 19 2005, 03:00 AM
The simplest/quickest thing to do might just be to use System Restore to set your PC to a state before it became infected.
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ARNEL
May 19 2005, 03:49 AM
QUOTE(GM-University @ May 19 2005, 09:14 AM) OK, my computer has recently become infected like crazy, I got a small littl adware program, it opened popups randomly, and slowely my PC has been crammed with over 150 programs that Norton's can't remove... I hav tried using a program called Bullet-Proof-Soft Spyware adware remover, but it generates errors trying to remove them, also Yahoo's Anti-Spyware software can't remove them either, well actually got rid of a few... These three are the most difficult to remove it seems... The progrma that opened all of the pop-up was suposedly disable by Norton's still appears to be running if I check, can anyone help? I have the same problems as yours, but only download trojan, I think you need to install Norton Anti-Virsu Corporate Edition v9. Norton detect this and remove the virus, but the problem download trojan are keep coming back eventhough norton trap it. What I did is I re-install the whole system just to keep it out. So if your temper is running out re-install the whole system to keep the virus out of your sight as I did in my computer :- )
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Inspiron
May 19 2005, 05:42 AM
QUOTE Overview Alias Spyware/ISTbar [Panda], TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.eo, See Also ISTbar · Category Hijacker : Any software that resets your browser's settings to point to other sites. Hijacks may reroute your info and address requests through an unseen site, capturing that info. In such hijacks, your browser may behave normally, but be slower.
Search Hijacker: Any software that resets your browser's settings to point to other sites when you perform a search. Hijacks may reroute your info and address requests through an unseen site, capturing that info. In such hijacks, your browser may behave normally, but be slower. Search results when such a hijacker is running will sometimes differ from non-hijacked results.
Toolbar: A group of buttons which perform common tasks. A toolbar for Internet Explorer is nomally located below the menu bar at the top of the form. Toolbars may be created by Browser Helper Objects.
Reasons For Retention Changes browser settings other than homepage, without user permission. Origins Group Integrated Search Technologies Others By This Group DLSearchBar· ISTbar· ISTbar.AUpdate· ISTbar.CSearch· ISTbar.MCInstL· ISTbar.MSCache· ISTbar.Slotch· Slotch.com· slotchbar· ToolbarCash.com· TrojanDownloader.Win32.IstBar.aj· TrojanDownloader.Win32.IstBar.ap· TrojanDownloader.Win32.IstBar.bm· TrojanDownloader.Win32.IstBar.bp· TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bu· TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.dh· TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.dr· TrojanDownloader.Win32.IstBar.i· XXXToolBar· XXXToolBar.com· Date of Origin July, 2004 Distribution ISTbar.XXXToolbar: 0.8% Clot Factor ISTbar.XXXToolbar: 16 Countries Affected In the past three months, we have received reports of ISTbar.XXXToolbar in:
United States, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russian Federation, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela, Growth ISTbar.XXXToolbar: Insufficient data to report growth Storage Required ISTbar.XXXToolbar: at least 125KB Browser Performance Likely to slow performance of Internet Explorer.
Detection and Removal Manual Removal Follow these steps to remove ISTbar.XXXToolbar from your machine. Begin by backing up your registry and your system, and/or setting a Restore Point, to prevent trouble if you make a mistake. Unregister DLLs: Unregister these DLLs with Regsvr32, then reboot: QUOTE programfilesdir+\istbar\istbar.dll
Clean Registry: Remove these registry items (if present) with RegEdit: QUOTE HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\clsid\{386a771c-e96a-421f-8ba7-32f1b706892f} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\clsid\{5f1abcdb-a875-46c1-8345-b72a4567e486} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\clsid\{8cba1b49-8144-4721-a7b1-64c578c9eed7} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{0985c112-2562-46f2-8da6-92648ba4630f} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{339d8aff-0b42-4260-ad82-78ce605a9543} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{7b9a715e-9d87-4c21-bf9e-f914f2fa953f} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{a36a5936-cfd9-4b41-86bd-319a1931887f} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{aa4939c3-deca-4a48-a454-97cd587c0ef5} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\interface\{eee4a2e5-9f56-432f-a6ed-f6f625b551e0} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\pugi.pugiobj istbar HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\pugi.pugiobj.1 istbar HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\pugi.pugiobj.1\clsid {5f1abcdb-a875-46c1-8345-b72a4567e486} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\pugi.pugiobj\clsid {5f1abcdb-a875-46c1-8345-b72a4567e486} HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\pugi.pugiobj\curver pugi.pugiobj.1 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\typelib\{6d3f5de4-e980-4407-a10f-9ac771abaae6}\1.0 pugi 1.0 type library HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\typelib\{6d3f5de4-e980-4407-a10f-9ac771abaae6}\1.0\0\win32 c:\program files\istbar\istbar.dll HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\typelib\{6d3f5de4-e980-4407-a10f-9ac771abaae6}\1.0\flags 0 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\typelib\{6d3f5de4-e980-4407-a10f-9ac771abaae6}\1.0\helpdir c:\program files\istbar HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\ist\config HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\clsid\{5f1abcdb-a875-46c1-8345-b72a4567e486} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\interface\{0985c112-2562-46f2-8da6-92648ba4630f} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\interface\{7b9a715e-9d87-4c21-bf9e-f914f2fa953f} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\interface\{aa4939c3-deca-4a48-a454-97cd587c0ef5} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\interface\{eee4a2e5-9f56-432f-a6ed-f6f625b551e0} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\typelib\{67907b3c-a6ef-4a01-99ad-3fcd5f526429} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\classes\typelib\{d0288a41-9855-4a9b-8316-babe243648da} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\code store database\distribution units\{386a771c-e96a-421f-8ba7-32f1b706892f} HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\code store database\distribution units\{7c559105-9ecf-42b8-b3f7-832e75edd959}\contains\files\c:\windows\downloaded program files\istactivex.dll HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\internet explorer\toolbar\{5f1abcdb-a875-46c1-8345-b72a4567e486}
Remove Files: Remove these files (if present) with Windows Explorer: QUOTE favorites+\adult sites\amateur\milf.lnk favorites+\adult sites\amateur\young amateurs.lnk favorites+\adult sites\anal\ass breakers.lnk favorites+\adult sites\asian\asian nudes.lnk favorites+\adult sites\asian\asian teen tarts.lnk favorites+\adult sites\bisexual\bi sex tv.lnk favorites+\adult sites\black\ebony cafÚ.lnk favorites+\adult sites\black\ebony teen tart.lnk favorites+\adult sites\black\sweet black.lnk favorites+\adult sites\cartoon\acme porn.lnk favorites+\adult sites\cumshots\jizz catchers.lnk favorites+\adult sites\cumshots\jizz shower.lnk favorites+\adult sites\fetish\fetish abyss.lnk favorites+\adult sites\fetish\whips and women.lnk favorites+\adult sites\gang bang\orgy frenzy.lnk favorites+\adult sites\gay\male next door.lnk favorites+\adult sites\gay\sweet young boys.lnk favorites+\adult sites\gay\ultimate stud.lnk favorites+\adult sites\hardcore\blondes of porns.lnk favorites+\adult sites\hardcore\porn buster.lnk favorites+\adult sites\hardcore\real hardcore.lnk favorites+\adult sites\latin\xxxsalsa.lnk favorites+\adult sites\voyeur\my naughty nanny.lnk fd programfilesdir+\istbar\istbar.dll programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\f_popo1150c_rb.htm programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\f_popo1150c_ub.htm programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\f_spec1150c_ub.htm programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\foot1150c_rb.htm programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\foot1150c_ub.htm programfilesdir+\web_rebates\sy1150\html\popo1150c.htm sfexd001 slotchbar.txt
Remove Directories: Remove these directories (if present) with Windows Explorer: QUOTE favorites+\adult sites\amateur favorites+\adult sites\anal favorites+\adult sites\asian favorites+\adult sites\bisexual favorites+\adult sites\black favorites+\adult sites\cartoon favorites+\adult sites\cumshots favorites+\adult sites\fetish favorites+\adult sites\gang bang favorites+\adult sites\gay favorites+\adult sites\hardcore favorites+\adult sites\interacial favorites+\adult sites\latin favorites+\adult sites\lesbian favorites+\adult sites\mature favorites+\adult sites\peeing favorites+\adult sites\reality favorites+\adult sites\teen favorites+\adult sites\teen hardcore favorites+\adult sites\tits favorites+\adult sites\transexual favorites+\adult sites\upskirt favorites+\adult sites\video favorites+\adult sites\voyeur favorites+\free adult content\daily movies favorites+\free adult content\daily pictures favorites+\free adult content\free live chat programfilesdir+\istbar
Restore Settings: After following the instructions above, you will still need to restore your original settings and prevent this from happening again. http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pe...px?id=453075516
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Inspiron
May 19 2005, 05:46 AM
Hey dude... Trojan.Downloader.Win32.Istbar.ce doesn't seem to be recognised.. You may like to check some relevant terms here... http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/se...ly=false&type=0
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Inspiron
May 19 2005, 05:49 AM
Hey dude ... I found it... It's alias name for Trojan.Downloader.Win32.Istbar.ce is actually TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo QUOTE Overview Alias Spyware/ISTbar [Panda], Win32/TrojanDownloader.IstBar.CE trojan [Eset], Category Downloader : A program designed to retrieve and install additional files, when run. Most will be configured to retrieve from a designated web or FTP site. Trojan: Any program with a hidden intent. Trojans are one of the leading causes of breaking into machines. If you pull down a program from a chat room, new group, or even from unsolicited e-mail, then the program is likely trojaned with some subversive purpose. The word Trojan can be used as a verb: To trojan a program is to add subversive functionality to an existing program. For example, a trojaned login program might be programmed to accept a certain password for any user's account that the hacker can use to log back into the system at any time. Rootkits often contain a suite of such trojaned programs. Origins Date of Origin May, 2004 Distribution TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo: < 0.00005% Clot Factor TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo: 1 Countries Affected In the past three months, we have received reports of TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo in: United States, Netherlands, United States, Storage Required TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo: at least 13KB Detection and Removal Manual Removal Follow these steps to remove TrojanDownloader.Win32.Istbar.bo from your machine. Begin by backing up your registry and your system, and/or setting a Restore Point, to prevent trouble if you make a mistake. Stop Running Processes: Kill these running processes with Task Manager: QUOTE a834d85b5062f849e461b71c20bf78f8.exe
Remove Files: Remove these files (if present) with Windows Explorer: QUOTE a834d85b5062f849e461b71c20bf78f8.exe
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pe...px?id=453083553Ha.. finally with all the long searches... These should help...
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FLaKes
May 19 2005, 07:35 AM
Ive used a lot of spyware remover programs, but Ive noticed that none of them get rid of the whole spywarez. So what you have to do, or at least the steps Ive come up with are the following (based on my experience, Ive also had the Istbar so I think it will be similar) : -1.- Set a Restore Point (just in case) 0.- Disconnect from internet, these programs tend to download and duplicate themselves. 1.- I run a full system scan with a spyware remover program. 2.- I run it again just in case, in most cases it will find more malicious software. 3.- Restart the computer In safe mode. (this is done by pressing f8 when windows starts to load. 4.- Run the spyware remover program again. 5.- Go to c:/documents and settings/(your session name)/local settings/temporary internet files. Select all the files in this folder and delete them 6.- do the same with c:/documents and settings/(your session name)/local settings/temp 7.- Go to your program files folder in c:/ and check all the folders for mysterious programs that have to do with the spyware you have such as Istbar (I think thats what the folder was called, the advantage of being in safe mode is that you can delete). You can also check in control panel in ad or remove programs and most of the time you will see them there but they wont uninstall. 8.- Now click on start, then on run, then type in regedit. Click on HK_LocalMachine , then on software, microsoft, windows, current version, run. There you will find a list of programs that run when windows is loading. You will most probably find the istbar and some other programs there. What I would recommend you do is to click on start and then search and search for each program thats on run in regedit. That way you can find out where its located to see if it is not a microsoft program you can right click on it, then properties then go to summary, version etc.. to see if it is not a malicious or suspicious program. You can check all the programs here in regedit and see which ones you want at the start of windows, the less programs you have on startup the faster the startup will be, why would you want the quicktime, the ipod services etc. to load at startup instead of when you are actually going to use it? 9.- After you have your startup how you want it, now its time to search for other keys in regedit. Go to edit>find in Regedit and type in anything that has to do with the programs that are affecting your computer such as istbar etc. and while you are at it, delete all items that Inspiron has found and the dll from regsvr32 10.- After this reboot your pc, and do another scan. Go online and check if it worked. I really hope this helps, at least to learn a little bit about the spyware and where it is found and what it affects. This defenitely takes more time than formatting your pc, atleast the first time I think, unless you have a lot of data to backup. When this happened to me, Norton Antivirus got messed up (it wouldnt work anymore), I couldnt run exe files or lnk, and I had a lot of files to backup so I didnt really think of formating, so I did a little research and got rid of the spyware and I also learned a lot from that experience. Now as soon as I get a spyware y go offline and take care of it in less than 15 minutes. Though I havent ever had a trojan before.. I think. Well good luck.
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coolkarthik007
May 19 2005, 01:33 PM
wow a wonderfull way to remove adware. till now used System mechanic which is kind of ok i think or use PC-CILLIN 2005+
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R0boT39
May 19 2005, 03:15 PM
What version of Norton do you have?? It might also help if you have Norton System Works, it comes with a lot of helpfull utilities that can remove big problems from your pc.
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Jimmy
Mar 22 2007, 02:24 PM
I would say your best option is to reinstall windows. By the sound of it your computer has already become severely clogged. It is often difficult to remove two viruses completely, let alone 150 bundled everywhere. Also as you're trying to remove them it will take a lot of time and you may never be able to restore the speed and performance you had before, with missed registry entries and everything they all changed. Just remember to get off all the files that you need and make a list of all the programs you have currently (makes reinstalling everything back on easier). Important if you are backing up files: by the time you come to put them back onto your clean system, make sure you scan them with some virusscanner or put them onto someones's computer who has and can then check if they are clean. You don't want to be putting viruses back onto your system.!!  Good luck
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JDameron91
Mar 3 2007, 04:49 AM
If all else fails for you, buy Defender Pro 15-in-1 2007 from your local store. I had the same problems you did plus more. Such as new adult links being put into my history, And homepage takeover. I downloaded countless pregrams to fix it and none worked, so I bought Norton Internet Security 2007(which was the best program at the time) and it couldn't fix it. Then, I bought Spyware Doctor 2007, it found the files, but couldn't delete them. Finally, I found the savior: Defender Pro 15-in-1 2007. It fixed the problem plus it even has other programs that come with it that help your PC in other ways. Norton Internet Security 2007 = 70$, Fixed problem: No Spyware Doctor 2007 = 40$, Fixed problem: No Defender Pro 15-in-1 2007 = 40$, Fixed problem: Heck yes!
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kdr_98
Jun 7 2006, 07:21 PM
Another programm is hitman pro, but afterwards some things doesn't work anymore. Like games with MSN messenger, to repair this you have to remove hitman pro from your computer. You can download it from : http://www.hitmanpro.nl/The site is written in dutch but since a few version the programs are setup in English. It's easy to run and it cleanup a lot of spyware. It runs several programs after eachother and it configures the programs also. Works good.
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unicornrose
Jun 7 2006, 07:03 AM
I wanted to take a moment to put my own two cents or so in. I have found that the Lavasoft Ad-Aware home edition which is free is a very good program for finding malicious spyware. Its a good idea to use more than one. Do do a virus scan and then do a adware scan. Do becareful of what programs you use too. Some of the advertised free adware/spyware removers are actually cleaverly disquised adware/spyware generators. Its also a good idea when you realize that you are having adware or spyware problems to look in your start menu for new programs. Sometmes you can find them in your add and remove program menu as well. Some of the none big name search engines will install their special toolbars on your computer which will also put adware on your computer. Some of the free gaming sites that are offshoots will put malicious software on your computer too. You have to watch those popups they will kick your buttt. Do note that if the above advice from our fellow forum mates does not work then do a search with the names of the viruses and spyware. Sometimes you will find some good forums for that sort of thing. Take into consideration that some of the viruses and spyware have it in their programming to keep changing their names. So you may think you have caught the thing and it may come back. I spent a week trying to clean up my brother's computer once and well we tried everything under the sun before we had to give up and completely format the drive and start from scratch. Its a royal pain in the butt to have to do a format and reinstall but if nothing else works that is your only option. Now if you have not done a format and reinstall I highly encourage you to look it up on the net and either print or write out the step by step instructions. Otherwise you are going to be completely lost. Also all computer users should backup their work. I know we get out of that habit but when things like this happen you are reminded why its so important. Most of all don't feel to discouraged you are not alone. It happens to the best of us.
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In addition to spybot and ad-aware use HiJackThis! I find that combination of the three works the best. it takes a bit of care and patience with hijackThis but I think its the most effective. you can find a lot of HiJackThis tutorials on the web. downlaod & initial instructions& how to analyze the logthis one has some good info & links too
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true services.exe is located inside the windows\system32\folder not the windows\
folder. so i've run updates on avg, ad-aware, spybot and microsoft antispyware and ran....
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lines.. I've gotten as far as finding a way to add the lines, but it deletes the prevous entree.
Help is appreciated!....
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DNS adress of 50webs and added that domain to 50 webs and hosted it there.It is working fine
there.but i wanted to change hosting company of my domain. But i can not access domain control panel
from yahoo small business.My domain name doesnt appear anywhere in the domain pannel of yahoo.It
used to be there before i hosted it here. Please anybody tell me how i can change setting of my
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version from protecting my system. Is it okay to install one more anti-virus software on top of this
AVG Free version which is already installed and updated to the latest version? I have the option of
installing Norton Anti-virus 2005. Will it cause any problem since the two softwares may use the
same source from the computer, if I install this one? Do you recommend that I should uninstall
first the existing software and install the new one? Will Norton Anti-virus 2005 ....
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and it is ´killing´nokia. I tried F-secure protection but it isn't working. Please, help
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Should I Call Him
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saw a friend of mine that I grew up with. He and I started talking and he began to tell me once
againhow much he likes me. Now i have never taken him serious until last night. He said he likes me
and really would like to be in a relationship with me. He used to live around the corner from ym
house but he moved by himself to somewhere not to far from me. His dad though still lives around the
corner from me so I see him sometimes when he comes to visit his dad or his friends. ....
Web Surfing- Script Needed
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peope to surf the internet anonymousely, The site has baners and ads showing up and does not support
all links. Does anyone know what script they use or where i could get one from, What script do they
use? Also if anyone jnows how to make my own? I really want this as a addon for my site, So all help
would be appriciated. Thanks, Mbd5882....
Msn Messenger Virus
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it, but turns out its across the nation. So I dont know if you've got it and deleted it, or was
smart and didn’t accept it. Well it goes by (as far as I know) three names. There like "Frog
something something blender" "My new photo!" and like "Me and my lesbian friends!". Its a
17kb file, so if some1 in your list tries to send you one the those, DONT ACCEPT! It goes into
your list(takes total control, so you cant do anything) and sends itself to EVERY1 in you....
Virus Alert - Messenger Viruses
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everyone on ur bulletin because if somebody on ur list adds them, u get the virus too. Tell everyone
on your list not to open anything angell11. tewwtuler and sassy*BLEEP*. It is a hard drive killer
and a very horrible virus. Pass this letter to everyone on your buddy list. We need to find out who
is really using these accounts. Sorry for the inconvenience. Becareful while using Messengers
guys! Don't keep your messengers online unnecessarily. Go offline as so....
Freakin Virus Wont Die!
(10) Holy *BLEEP*... I have these 2 indestructable viruses on my computer. My antivirus CAN NOT delete
them, and I have downloaded and used every single reccomended antivirus in the official downloads
and links thread... They WILL NOT *BLEEP*ing die... They both came from the same place, and their
names follow: aim95.exe virus name= adware.weatherbug.a wxbug.exe virus name= adware.weatherbug.a
(same) The file locations are both in my AIM folder: aim95.exe location= AIM\aim95.exe
wxbug.exe location= AIM\Sysfiles\wxbug.exe Argh, I am dying... Does anyone hav....
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wondering if emptying it would be the good thing to do. I mean do I just keep the virus' in
there? Or do I empty it and are they then deleted?....
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content in those forums at all. All I've seen are some posts by remonit -the ones I've seen
are interviews or quotes - and one guy talking about translations to Hebrew.Most of the posts were
in one day by the same person around the same time. I'm asking for the removal or change of the
assembly and delphi forum because there is not a thing that really contributes to the users of
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The Best Anti-virus
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