baniboy
Apr 11 2009, 09:41 AM
I own phpBB3 forums and when I look up spiders/bots in admin control panel, I always notice that google bot is the only one that visits my site, and it visits my forums every day. But when I search in google with my sitename, I find nothing, not even in the last page of results... So am I doing something wrong? I currently have 6 topics on my forums (I just opened it! don't judge too quickly!), 10 posts, 5 users. So, does it help to get some kind of ranking if I link to my site from another site? If yes I'm gonna spam on all other forums by linking to my site, or I could add it to my signature in the forums I'm active in? (don't worry I'll spam only in finnish forums  ) does that help? Or doesn't google bot notice links in signatures? Or does that do the excact opposite? instead of my site showing in the results, it first shows all forum topics that I've posted in? Or does this all simply happen because I have not much content in my site? I know it's a lot of queston marks in one topic... I hope I get some answers.
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willielwgg
Apr 11 2009, 03:06 PM
You really just have to wait and don't give up. It took my site months to get into Google results (MSN was only a matter of days), but once it did, it ranked very high. Link it in your sig in other sites. The more visitors you get, the more likely it is that your site shows up in search results. Maybe you should think of installing a SEO MOD. I have heard that those help, but haven't tried it. Also remember, your site is very small. If there isn't much to index, it won't get indexed. Make lost of forum posts, and it will increase your chances of showing up in results.
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jlhaslip
Apr 11 2009, 03:33 PM
It can take several months to get out of the Google "sandbox" and as suggested, keep promoting your site via Signature links, attract new visitors, and most of all... add unique content. Google will find you and the site will show up eventually. Another trick would be to add Google Adsense to the Forum pages if possible. Then Google will definitely know about you.
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bk2070
Apr 11 2009, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (baniboy @ Apr 11 2009, 05:41 AM)  I own phpBB3 forums and when I look up spiders/bots in admin control panel, I always notice that google bot is the only one that visits my site, and it visits my forums every day. But when I search in google with my sitename, I find nothing, not even in the last page of results... So am I doing something wrong? I currently have 6 topics on my forums (I just opened it! don't judge too quickly!), 10 posts, 5 users. So, does it help to get some kind of ranking if I link to my site from another site? If yes I'm gonna spam on all other forums by linking to my site, or I could add it to my signature in the forums I'm active in? (don't worry I'll spam only in finnish forums  ) does that help? Or doesn't google bot notice links in signatures? Or does that do the excact opposite? instead of my site showing in the results, it first shows all forum topics that I've posted in? Or does this all simply happen because I have not much content in my site? I know it's a lot of queston marks in one topic... I hope I get some answers. Be patient. It takes time to be listed in Google. One thing that could help is google webmaster tools. https://www.google.com/webmaster/toolsYou can submit your sitemap to it, and tell Google how many times it can crawl your site ect. It will really help you increase your SEO ranking. Try it out 
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baniboy
Apr 11 2009, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (willielwgg @ Apr 11 2009, 06:06 PM)  You really just have to wait and don't give up. It took my site months to get into Google results (MSN was only a matter of days), but once it did, it ranked very high. Link it in your sig in other sites. The more visitors you get, the more likely it is that your site shows up in search results. Maybe you should think of installing a SEO MOD. I have heard that those help, but haven't tried it.
Also remember, your site is very small. If there isn't much to index, it won't get indexed. Make lost of forum posts, and it will increase your chances of showing up in results. QUOTE (jlhaslip @ Apr 11 2009, 06:33 PM)  It can take several months to get out of the Google "sandbox" and as suggested, keep promoting your site via Signature links, attract new visitors, and most of all... add unique content. Google will find you and the site will show up eventually. Another trick would be to add Google Adsense to the Forum pages if possible. Then Google will definitely know about you.  I will follow your instructions, thanks for the tips. I'll spam all over my forums to get them indexed  JK. I always thought that when a google bot visits your site, you'll automatically be added in the results in search... Thanks for the info. I'm trying to install a mod called "Advanced meta tags", but I have some problems undrestanding how to install since I know pretty much nothing about mysql queries. I looked up the guides in phpbb site but it didn't explain exactly how to do the queries. CODE INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('description_word_count', 150); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('use_dynamic_description', 1); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('append_keywords_first', 0); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('global_keywords', 'replace, these, keywords, with your own, keywords'); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('append_global_keywords', 1); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('keyword_word_count', 50); INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value) VALUES ('use_dynamic_keywords', 1); So how do I do this?
Also another "problem" with my is that it's in finnish. So I only have 5.4 million targets or less actually.
How can I make a sitemap? I just put up a page that has links to sections of my website or do I have to do it in some other way?
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willielwgg
Apr 11 2009, 05:52 PM
It may be possible that phpBB has a MOD for a sitemap, but if they don't a quick Google Search of "make sitemap" should get you to what you need. For the other questions...I have no idea. I don't use phpBB, so I don't even know where to start. Best to go on the support boards for that.
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rpgsearcherz
Apr 11 2009, 11:00 PM
If Google bot is visiting your forums you should already be listed...If you're not something is wrong. Possibly blacklisted? Usually my sites are indexed on Google results within 3-4 days, but I also do heavy SEO work on them. At the end of the day, it's all about your efficiency with SEO'ing your site. PHPBB does have some mods for SEO but they're really not that good.
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willielwgg
Apr 12 2009, 12:22 AM
rpgsearcherz, I'm not blacklisted from Google, and it took me months to get on results. It just takes some time.
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rpgsearcherz
Apr 12 2009, 12:25 AM
It may be because they only do indexing every X days then. I could just be making the sites at around the same time they do re-indexing on their results. As for the "more visitors" = indexed thing you posted previously.. Not necessarily true...My clan site only has ~60 uniques a month and we were ranked #1 in Google for weeks under very common terms like "Takeover" and "Aion Information." Your ranking is based on your SEO.
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baniboy
Apr 12 2009, 09:11 AM
Because my site hasn't so many visitors yet, I'll restart it and start using phpBB3 SEO Premod, I'll send an e-mail to all users to register again. The Premod will have all the SEO stuff installed, I'll just upload the style I want and finnish language pack. It will have static urls for topics, dynamic meta keywords and descriptions and zero duplicate plus all kinda other SEO stuff, so yea, I'll relaunch! EDIT: I might have to do some template changes but whatever, I would have to do them even if I would just want to install the mods on my current ones.... EDIT2: The installation went well, but the url rewriting and stuff like that caused me errors, I've disabled the preinstalled SEO mods for now. I'll post in their support forums to find more info about what's the problem. In the meantime, any more tips about SEOing?
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TheDisturbedOne
Apr 14 2009, 06:15 PM
Nice to hear it all went well. The Analytics aren't always 100% correct though. It is where the server is located, not the user. For example my ISP's server is located about 50 miles away, but it gives you a close idea of where the traffic is coming from.
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Baniboy
Apr 14 2009, 05:39 PM
Hey guys, everything is cool and working now. I got the sitemaps, mods, everything to work. I also installed all-in-one SEO pack for my blog, so now I have a sitemap for my blog too and all I need to do is to add content. and BTW I'm also using RSS-feeds! they're awesome!! A few days ago I started using google analytics, and i like the interface a lot. It shows I have 14 different visitors from 7 different cities in Finland, I love those numbers even tho they're small. I have a lot of returning visitors(I don't know if it counts me in how many times?  ) anywayz I relaunched my forums 12th day and I think I have good results for finnish-talking forum with not a lot of content  Oh and I also have almost half of the pie showing new visitors.  I'm also ranked 1st when I search my sitename with ".net" ending, but I still have another forum where I introduced my forums to some people in the first result in google when I use no ".net" ending. I'll beat that result too soon... Site map rulez BTW thanks for the tips guys, you people were my only source of info regarding SEO and stuff like that, I wouldn't have accomplished this without you, so give yourself some applause (was that the wrong expression? dunno...)
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TheDisturbedOne
Apr 13 2009, 02:15 AM
I believe the way I verified was through uploading a file via FTP. They tell you to make a html file with a certain name and upload it to your main directory. It worked and I was verified in less then 10 minutes. I did the same with Google Analytics.
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Ash-Bash
Apr 12 2009, 10:45 PM
QUOTE (miladinoski @ Apr 12 2009, 02:36 PM)  Baniboy, I got listed on Google in a matter of couple of hours after I signed up for Google Webmaster Tools and submitted a sitemap overthere. English wasn't the main language of the site Also, remember that Google doesn't like copy/pasted content so NEVER do that as either you won't be listed or you'll be on the bottom of the search results. Be patient and you'll get results  I have just tried Google Webmaster Tools to get my forum popular I have added my URL in and need to verify. I have tried both Verifying steps however both of them are not working I have made a topic about this so if you or anyone else can help me then please do. I have been trying for days now and I am getting really annoyed with it. Thanks for any help in advance to this situation.
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curtis07
Apr 12 2009, 08:07 PM
http://www.our-picks.com/I just found this great article. Also, http://www.google.com/addurl/ is a great place to start for those that haven't had a visit by Google yet. Depending on your site, you may want to look into DMOZ. If approved, they will submit your site to many search engines.
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