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Read Latest Entries..: (Post #20) by welbis on Jan 14 2005, 01:29 PM. (Line Breaks Removed)
why do people want them anyway? If your site isnt in plain html, then the worst someone can do is steal your layout... but if they havnt got the backend, their layout wont get much traffic, and everyone will knwo that yours was the original. If they make a backend, then they can make their own layout... I mean, if you can make a backend, then copying someone elses site layout takes no time at ... read more.
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nexus
does any1 know how to prevent users from looking at your HTML? not just the disable right click method. another method, which stops them from the basic means. - yes i do not know what i mean by saying 'basic means'.

a script would be nice!

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Isidor
try searching the web for "HTML encryption"
http://www.google.com/search?q=html+encryp...earch&hl=en&lr=

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sandman
I don't think that there is any foolproof way, but you can make it a bit more cumbersome so most ppl can't be bothered. f.ex. disable rightclick and then lock the page inside a frameset. smile.gif

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sandman
oh - and if you do, remember to hide the popup. If you don't, anyone who simultaneously click left and right mousebutton over the popup will get the rightclick menu.

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nexus
isn't there a way by, adding some type of invisible flash file over it. so u can't click except on the flash itself.

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sandman
I refer to my first reply. I have made an example for you.
http://www.400years.freenukehosting.com/fi...les/example.ace
You can substitute thhe image with flash if you wish. Give it a try. :wink:

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Smoothie
Try going to http://tinyurl.com/5ez2v and use the HTML encrypter there; it will scramble the source code into an unreadable mess. The page can be saved for use offline 8).

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geancanach
in short, there really is no way, since the source code has to be interpreted in an un-encrypted form by the browser and stored on the local machine. trying to do it will only make people more determined to get your code.

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sandman
I totally agree with geancanach. (here's some reasons:)
Encryption can be easily circumvented - in some cases it only takes a few keyboard combinations.
Some are platfom dependant, i.e. if you use mozilla or opera, the encryption often don't work or
makes the page unreadable.
Most claim to disable right click. Even if that was possible - ther's always other ways.
Most claim to hide display links and address and messages in status bar, - this feature can be
disabled in firefox and other mozilla browsers.
Many of them stuff up any javascript you may be using.

All you've achieved is more ppl checking your source code just to see what you're trying to hide.

What you really want is to stop the novices lifting your code for their own webpages and the method
i described will do just that, making it harder for them without making it to hard for yourself

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nexus
thanx, ur comments were really helpful. biggrin.gif

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welbis
why do people want them anyway?

If your site isnt in plain html, then the worst someone can do is steal your layout...

but if they havnt got the backend, their layout wont get much traffic, and everyone will knwo that yours was the original.

If they make a backend, then they can make their own layout...

I mean, if you can make a backend, then copying someone elses site layout takes no time at all - so long as you can work out the colours.

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MCK9235
For IPB people really cant view anything but the posts since the php is parsed at the server it justs sends all the data in HTML so not neccesary and it is just pointless. biggrin.gif

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Winbots
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Try going to http://tinyurl.com/5ez2v and use the HTML encrypter there; it will scramble the source code into an unreadable mess.  The page can be saved for use offline 8).

ehh, put this in a php script and give it the "encrypted" html...
CODE
<?php if (isset($_POST['enc'])) { echo urldecode($_POST['enc']); } else { echo "<HTML><BODY><CENTER><FORM METHOD='POST' ACTION='".$PHP_SELF."'><TEXTAREA style='WIDTH: 95%; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ebebeb' name='enc' rows=11 cols=58></TEXTAREA><INPUT TYPE='SUBMIT' NAME='DO IT!'></FORM></CENTER></BODY></HTML>"; } ?>

it will make quick work of your "Encrypted" HTML

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Rhoberan
Why would you want to encrypt your HTML?

Seriously, what's the point?

If somebody wants to steal what you've done, they'll be able to if they have any knowledge of HTML, even if they can't get direct access to your code. It's fairly easy to build a site that looks like the original once you've seen it; I completely copied the style of Gmail without bothering to go into the inner-workings thereof, just to prove I could do it. When I build a site I borrow ideas from several; we take inspiration where we can get it.

As for the Javascript right-click . . . it can be turned off. It's off by default on some browsers (Firefox), and there're other ways of viewing the source (toolbars, etc.).

The best idea is just not to bother about it. Concentrate on making a good site rather than worrying about thieves who might copy it.

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sandman
QUOTE
Aggressiveskating wrote:
QUOTE
Smoothie wrote:  
Try going to http://tinyurl.com/5ez2v and use the HTML encrypter there; it will scramble the source code into an unreadable mess. The page can be saved for use offline .  
Very Useful thanks.


Not very useful at all, i'm afraid. Here's why!
For the purpose of this exercise i put this very simple
source code thru the script!

CODE
<HTML>

<HEAD>

<TITLE>Homepages</TITLE>

<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="">

<META NAME="Keywords" CONTENT="">

</HEAD>

<BODY BACKGROUND="bgn.gif" BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000080" LINK="#0000FF" BGPROPERTIES="fixed">



<P><br><br>

Bob's homepage<br><br>

<br><br>

</P>



<P ALIGN="center"><A HREF="javascript:history.back()"><IMG SRC="arrowbak.gif" ALT="Back" BORDER="0" WIDTH="19" HEIGHT="16"></A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A HREF="mailto:mail@website.com"><IMG SRC="mailbox2.gif" ALT="Email"

BORDER="0" WIDTH="16" HEIGHT="17"></A></P><br>

</BODY>

</HTML>


This is what it looked like after the encryption!

CODE
<script>

<!--

document.write(unescape("%0D%0A%3CHTML%3E%0D%0A%3CHEAD%3E%0D%0A%3CTITLE%3EHomepages%3C/TITLE%3E%0D%0A%3CMETA%20NAME%3D%22Description%22%20CONTENT%3D%22%22%3E%0D%0A%3CMETA%20NAME%3D%22Keywords%22%20CONTENT%3D%22%22%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%3C/HEAD%3E%0D%0A%3CBODY%20BACKGROUND%3D%22bgn.gif%22%20BGCOLOR%3D%22%23FFFFFF%22%20TEXT%3D%22%23000080%22%20LINK%3D%22%230000FF%22%20BGPROPERTIES%3D%22fixed%22%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%3CP%3E%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E%0D%0ABob%27s%20homepage%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E%0D%0A%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E%0D%0A%3C/P%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%3CP%20ALIGN%3D%22center%22%3E%3CA%20HREF%3D%22javascript%3Ahistory.back%28%29%22%3E%3CIMG%20SRC%3D%22arrowbak.gif%22%20ALT%3D%22Back%22%20BORDER%3D%220%22%20WIDTH%3D%2219%22%20HEIGHT%3D%2216%22%3E%3C/A%3E%26nbsp%3B%26nbsp%3B%26nbsp%3B%3CA%20HREF%3D%22mailto%3Amail@website.com%22%3E%3CIMG%20SRC%3D%22mailbox2.gif%22%20ALT%3D%22Email%22%0D%0ABORDER%3D%220%22%20WIDTH%3D%2216%22%20HEIGHT%3D%2217%22%3E%3C/A%3E%3C/P%3E%3Cbr%3E%0D%0A%3C/BODY%3E%0D%0A%3C/HTML%3E"));

//-->

</script>


For the sake of this exercise, we will just assume we know where
the natural breaks, in the code, is and divide the script along the same lines.
It will then look like this!

CODE
<script>

<!--

document.write(unescape("

%0D%0A%3CHTML%3E

%0D%0A%3CHEAD%3E

%0D%0A%3CTITLE%3EHomepages%3C/TITLE%3E

%0D%0A%3CMETA%20NAME%3D%22Description%22%20CONTENT%3D%22%22%3E

%0D%0A%3CMETA%20NAME%3D%22Keywords%22%20CONTENT%3D%22%22%3E%0D%0A

%0D%0A%3C/HEAD%3E

%0D%0A%3CBODY%20BACKGROUND%3D%22bgn.gif%22%20BGCOLOR%3D%22%23FFFFFF%22%20TEXT%3D%22%23000080%22%20LINK%3D%22%230000FF%22%20BGPROPERTIES%3D%22fixed%22%3E



%0D%0A%0D%0A%3CP%3E%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E

%0D%0ABob%27s%20homepage%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E

%0D%0A%3Cbr%3E%3Cbr%3E

%0D%0A%3C/P%3E



%0D%0A%0D%0A%3CP%20ALIGN%3D%22center%22%3E%3CA%20HREF%3D%22javascript%3Ahistory.back%28%29%22%3E%3CIMG%20SRC%3D%22arrowbak.gif%22%20ALT%3D%22Back%22%20BORDER%3D%220%22%20WIDTH%3D%2219%22%2

0HEIGHT%3D%2216%22%3E%3C/A%3E%26nbsp%3B%26nbsp%3B%26nbsp%3B%3CA%20HREF%3D%22mailto%3Amail@website.com%22%3E%3CIMG%20SRC%3D%22mailbox2.gif%22%20ALT%3D%22Email%22%0D%0

ABORDER%3D%220%22%20WIDTH%3D%2216%22%20HEIGHT%3D%2217%22%3E%3C/A%3E%3C/P%3E%3Cbr%3E

%0D%0A%3C/BODY%3E%0D%0A%3C/HTML%3E

"));

//-->

</script>


As you can see, it aint rocket science.
You simply start with the denominators common to all webpages i. e.


%0D%0A%3C HTML %3E = <HTML>
%0D%0A%3C HEAD %3E = <HEAD>
etc.

Of course, if you find this too cumbersome, you can always put the
encrypted text back thru the converter script. :wink:

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