BooZker
Nov 18 2006, 10:24 PM
Before i start i want to make sure you understand this is not a what OS is better this is a what is better at certain things and your reasons why. I would also like to know more about Linux because i'm slightly confused on it. Will it mess my computer up if i install it, dont like it, and uninstall it? OK on with the topic. I own a Mac and work on one for many hours a day, but had always used a Windows based system since well i was 5 and i remember my father using DOS to run Duke Nukem haha. So i know my way around it. Here is my Pros and Cons list Windows:Pros: - Almost every game runs on it
- Tons of programs run on it
- More Cusomization on the computers is possible
Cons: - SPYWARE, VIRUSES, ADWARE GALLORE!
- Not as "nice" looking
- Error message after error message
Mac:Pros: - Very sleek and clean looking
- Never had any viruses or spyware yet and it's been over 4 months. (long time for a windows user haha)
- Lots of great built in programs such iMovie which is a REALLY good Windows Movie Maker and Garage Band which is very handy for me who makes movies
If your a graphic designer like me you need one anyways haha Cons: - Pretty much no games for it
- Harder to find programs for it
- Hardware you have to get through Apple most of the time and can't just go to Target and pick up a CD drive.
LinuxPro's: - Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's: - Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
- It's a pain in the *bottom* to try to get Linux to run on a system with another OS already installed.
I do have to say though that Windows is great, but i like Mac better simply because Mac CAN run windows and it connects to Windows networks and runs windows keyboard and mouses and most of the stuff. I think that Windows should try to be more cross platform compatible also. It would make the world a better place haha. Unbuntu i have tried the live CD and i have tried over and over, but i can never seem to get to install it so i have a duel boot system. I have read so many tutorials then when i try to partition it wont let me. I loved the live CD though.
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gameratheart
Nov 18 2006, 11:01 PM
Hey, you said you were gonna comment about Linux, too... so where's the Linux in that list?
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truefusion
Nov 19 2006, 02:40 AM
I guess he forgot. But here's some Pro's and Con's for Linux you could use: Pro's:- Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's:- Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
Meh, i haven't used Linux, besides a LiveCD. But that's what i can think of off the top of my head.
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rldowling03
Nov 19 2006, 03:10 AM
Another good thing about Linux is that a few websites will send you a liveCD or liveDVD of a selection of linux distributions for free to your home, i can't remember where you have to go but i seen it on here someone had a link to the website in their signature, also Ubuntu have a service where they will send you a liveCD to your home address for free, I did it and got it within a month. It's great if you don't wanna pay or download for linux.
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rvalkass
Nov 19 2006, 09:45 AM
I'm gonna disagree with a point about Windows there. No way is it more customisable compared to any Linux distro you pick. Windows has more hidden settings and things you can't control than any other operating system. On a Mac you also still get a load of error messages, so that is not a solely Windows problem.
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xboxrulz
Nov 19 2006, 08:34 PM
ya, Linux is much more customisable than Windows will ever be. Heck, I'm a Linux user myself.
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BooZker
Dec 6 2006, 07:53 AM
Well until recently i had never used a linux. I just started using Ubuntu and LOVE it. I wish i could use a NON livecd though. I can't figure out how to dual boot the system. I have tried partitioning the system, but it wont let me. Any help with that? Linux is much more customizable though. Your right. I also forget about how much of a *BLEEP* it is to customize windows, because i have a site where that's all it is and i know my way around it fairly well lol. The site is in my sig if you care.
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Galahad
Dec 10 2006, 08:37 AM
Even though I'm a Windows user myself, I can't think of any more pro's and con's concerning Windows... Mac, I never used and never been in contact, so I can't comment on Macs, even though I hope to come across one some day  Now, for Linux, I can add that it's main pro is that it's open source, and that you can change your kernel (provided that you know what you're doing), and change practically anything in your system, from appearance, to functionality... Pf course, main con is that it's not as user friendly as windows is, but that too is changing fast, as companies distributing linux are popping all over the place... Ubuntu must be the best distribution of user friendly linux around... Slackware is the oice of professionals, who know what they're doing... I have to keep Windows installed on my computer, because of work, but I should be getting another computer soon, so that machine will be turned into linux server, and I will finally be able to spend some time using linux
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TheWakeUpCall
Dec 22 2006, 11:55 AM
I personally have never had spyware or viruses on my computer. Soo, I think that is a bit unfair to put that on the list. It's not hard to avoid viruses. There are some defects with XP that I don't like though. Main one being that when you install a program it is put in the startup list so your computer gets slow if you don't disable them at startup. But windows is definately the best OS. My reasons for saying that is: I've used Mac intel for a few weeks as my main OS, and I didn't like it. Sure it looks pretty, but is quite unusable with alot of stuff. For example browsing the internet. Macs are only good if you want to use certain pieces of software. I tried to install linux but no distros I tried worked, soo that sucks. But what I understand about Linux is that it can't run any of my favourite software (flash, cubase, dreamweaver, itunes, live messenger) and also for all the software you get it is just copies of Windows software under a different name that's really crap compared to the real thing.
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blendergalactica
Dec 22 2006, 04:02 PM
QUOTE(BooZker @ Nov 18 2006, 10:24 PM)  Before i start i want to make sure you understand this is not a what OS is better this is a what is better at certain things and your reasons why. I would also like to know more about Linux because i'm slightly confused on it. Will it mess my computer up if i install it, dont like it, and uninstall it? OK on with the topic. I own a Mac and work on one for many hours a day, but had always used a Windows based system since well i was 5 and i remember my father using DOS to run Duke Nukem haha. So i know my way around it. Here is my Pros and Cons list Windows:Pros: - Almost every game runs on it
- Tons of programs run on it
- More Cusomization on the computers is possible
Cons: - SPYWARE, VIRUSES, ADWARE GALLORE!
- Not as "nice" looking
- Error message after error message
Mac:Pros: - Very sleek and clean looking
- Never had any viruses or spyware yet and it's been over 4 months. (long time for a windows user haha)
- Lots of great built in programs such iMovie which is a REALLY good Windows Movie Maker and Garage Band which is very handy for me who makes movies
If your a graphic designer like me you need one anyways haha Cons: - Pretty much no games for it
- Harder to find programs for it
- Hardware you have to get through Apple most of the time and can't just go to Target and pick up a CD drive.
LinuxPro's: - Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's: - Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
- It's a pain in the *bottom* to try to get Linux to run on a system with another OS already installed.
I do have to say though that Windows is great, but i like Mac better simply because Mac CAN run windows and it connects to Windows networks and runs windows keyboard and mouses and most of the stuff. I think that Windows should try to be more cross platform compatible also. It would make the world a better place haha. Unbuntu i have tried the live CD and i have tried over and over, but i can never seem to get to install it so i have a duel boot system. I have read so many tutorials then when i try to partition it wont let me. I loved the live CD though. Macs: Pros: No virus, little spyware Most Opensource apps for Linux run fine on OSX You can find all major commercial software for OSX, including Adobe, MS Office, Quark. Apple only apps: iLife, Final Cut Pro, Logic, etc. Now you can run OSX and Windows on the same box Cons Price. Apple hardware comes a premium Apple tends to nickle and dime you (remember, Ilife was once free!) Most popular games are ported to mac, and now with the Intel boxes, I look for increased support. But the fact of the matter is most Mac users use their computer for work not play. They aren't playing games on their mac. In fact the only game I have is Stronghold and Vegastrike...and I rarely play either one. THat's what the PS2 is for!
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saitunes
Apr 24 2008, 12:22 PM
As for the 'cons' of mac "pretty much no games" and harder to find programs for it. There are games for it, Alot of EA games are being release on mac platform, sims, sims2 sim city, WOW is on mac. Its not pretty much no games, their games aren't sold as widespread as pc games, which i do admit is a pain. Harder to find programs, not true in my experience. there are a number of sites you can go to www.pure-mac.com, http://www.freemacware.com/, and google search. a quick google search and I have found most of the software I've ever looked for. Cracks are harder to get however. but remember, cracks are bad! plumber's cracks are worse
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rvalkass
Apr 20 2008, 09:57 AM
QUOTE(Watermonkey @ Apr 20 2008, 06:32 AM) Seems to me, roooss, you've just decided not to learn the Mac way of doing things. Takes a fraction of the time to click the keyboard combo, [cmd-Q] compared to clicking on the red "X" for each and every window open in an application to close it all down. All operating systems have keyboard shortcuts that do the same things, so no-one can really claim them as an advantage of one OS over another. QUOTE(Watermonkey @ Apr 20 2008, 06:32 AM) Further, like a poster above you mentioned, you get a lot more bang for the buck when you buy a Mac. I own an "overpriced" Macbook Pro, but the hardware internally is the very best and highest quality that money could buy when I bought it. This means I'll be replacing it, out of necessity, later than if I'd bought the cheapest Dell. Or even the highest priced Dell. Go do a head-to-head comparison some time. Indeed, I did do a head-to-head comparison. I went to Apple's website, and to Dell's website and spec'd two laptops up to as-near-as-possible specifications. Both have a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and 2GB of RAM, with an nVidia 8600M GT graphics card. They do differ with the hard drives, as I couldn't get two to match. The Apple laptop has a 200GB hard drive, while the Dell has a 250GB hard drive. The screens are also slightly different (15" for the Apple, 15.4" for the Dell). They come with the latest Apple and Microsoft offerings for their operating systems. The Dell also comes with an in-built webcam, and a fingerprint scanner (you can't remove them from the spec). Results: £1,299.00 for the MacBook Pro, £759.00 for the Dell XPS M1530. Considering the Dell actually has slightly better spec (bigger HDD, camera, fingerprint reader, larger screen) that is an astonishing price difference, and values the little Apple logo on the case at £540! I certainly know which one I would buy. QUOTE(Watermonkey @ Apr 20 2008, 06:32 AM) The price myth has been busted. In Mythbusters style: Myth Confirmed.
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Watermonkey
Apr 20 2008, 05:32 AM
Seems to me, roooss, you've just decided not to learn the Mac way of doing things. Takes a fraction of the time to click the keyboard combo, [cmd-Q] compared to clicking on the red "X" for each and every window open in an application to close it all down. It's different, and more efficient, but enough so that you can't just treat it like MS wrote it. If every OS in the world were exactly the same, it'd be a less interesting world. Further, like a poster above you mentioned, you get a lot more bang for the buck when you buy a Mac. I own an "overpriced" Macbook Pro, but the hardware internally is the very best and highest quality that money could buy when I bought it. This means I'll be replacing it, out of necessity, later than if I'd bought the cheapest Dell. Or even the highest priced Dell. Go do a head-to-head comparison some time. I think you'll be surprised that the Mac is actually less expensive most of the time. (The rest of the time you can't even option the Dell or Toshiba or whatever to the higher speed chipsets or larger HDs available in the Mac.) The price myth has been busted.
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roooss
Apr 20 2008, 12:34 AM
I use all three os' daily and i have to say that the mac annoys me the most, ok the design is nice but the cost is ridiculous! and the way it relies alot on hotkeys and keyboard shortcuts annoys me too, its also very sameish i.e. all the interfaces for aplications and explorer windows. and the fact that the apps menu bar is stuck to the top is annoying because even though you close the workspace you were using the app is still running, still using memory so when you forget to close them down you have like 50 apps running before you know it! windows is the old faithful! leave vista alone xp and 2000 know what theyre doing and do it well, ok they are prone to attacks and vulnerabilities but thats only to be expected as its the most used system in the world! what would the point be in hacking say an acorn these days? the sheer compatibility and expandability this os provides you with just out weighs the other os's out there. and there is just no argument over its ease of use the os has been around for so long people are born knowing how to use it. and finaly linux - my fave. it truly is a FULLY customisable os, right to the point of creating your own distribution [see Linux From Scratch]. there are various desktop environments out there so you arent stuck with one visual gui, the fact that the os is so heavily integrated with the CLI [Command line interface] makes upgrading and customising the os a doddle, also with the new generation of distros out there such as ubuntu, installing software is a matter of a couple of clicks, ubuntu even has an application that lets you search open source software and then install directly to your machine! the support is generaly fantastic as well! most linux users i have come across are excited to learn of another nix user! so i recommend you give it a go!
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Apr 2 2008, 06:48 PM
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Pros And Cons Of Mac, Windows, And Linux
About security- If you bought a car that was the safest on the road, what good would it do with an idiot behind the wheel? No computer is that safe. I think Apple is doing a fine job and I think Vista is finally on par. Having used a Mac for 20 years, I can say that it has always supported the graphics/design community with font ease/color management, printing features not found on Windows XP. Plus, you can easily process PDF files, JPEGS, TIFS, etc and you can open and convert Photoshop and Illustrator files. All of this works within the operating system without requiring the actual software. As far as Macs having a price "premium", this has to do more with the quality of both the equipment and the OS. Macs are rarely just eye candy. Besides that, you get a lot of real useful software free! I use my laptop heavily, graphics, internet, music creation. The fun part is that you CAN run a bunch of processes all at the same time. I do have older equipment and I can imagine today's newer and faster machines can do. The quality factor means that in all of these years, I have not had my equipment fail, not once! I'm sure there has been a few buggy Apple computers through the years but none affected me. There is a lot of software and free software available at Macupdate.Com and from other online sites.
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