Pope Suffers From Cardiocirculatory Collapse - are we facing the near death of Pope?

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Read Latest Entries..: (Post #17) by finaldesign on Apr 4 2005, 01:14 PM. (Line Breaks Removed)
This was some crazy conversation here, I din't mean that I'll start such a agressive talk here, when I posted a topic about Pope... Anyway He is dead now and there is no need to argue anymore...my suggestion goest to moderators to close this topic now.
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Pope Suffers From Cardiocirculatory Collapse - are we facing the near death of Pope?

finaldesign
This just occured, im transfering brief news from cnn:
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Pope John Paul II's condition is "very grave" after he suffers cardiocirculatory collapse and septic shock, a Vatican spokesman says. But the Vatican denies reports that the pope has fallen into a possible coma.


Pretty scary...

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ghettohabbo
Let's just hope a miracle happens and he will be fine and healthy after... sad.gif

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serverph
as a catholic, i join the multitude of people around the world who prays for the recovery of the pope...

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fsastraps
same here, i started praying when i heard about it, it realy is sad and i hope he gets better from this, because who knows what will happen to the world if hes not here with us.

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Wyllt
As an agnostic with absolutely no ties to the catholic church I offer my best wishes and hope he recovers. Just because I am agnostic and don't really have alot of trust for any organized religion doesn't mean that I cannot see the pope for what he is, and what he means to catholics. I hope he has a speedy recovery.

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no9t9
what will happen if he isn't here? He has to die eventually. I don't think the pope really is doing much good for anyone in his condition. Quite simply, the pope is just a person and there will be another pope. He is what? 84 years old I believe? He had a long life. Let him go. IF you were gonna pray for anyone it should be for those people in Indonesia who just suffered through another disaster. Or even Teri Shrivo (who is gone now). These are the people that are often forgotten who shouldn't be forgotten. I'm not saying NOBODY prayed for them, but I'm saying more people care about the pope than they do about those I mentioned. I feel it is more important to consider the orphans who lost their parents, or the parents who lost their children in Indonesia. Those children never had a chance. Again, the pope is old, he lived a long and full life. Of course it is sad to see people die but I don't feel that bad for him. People get old. People die. Such is life.

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Dragonfly
I'm pained and feel really sorry to see the suffering of Pope. But he is quite advance in his age as well. May be its time for him to go to eternal life forever. As the last rites are being performed it seems like Pope will not last long anymore.

Anyways man dies physically... its the time of season we should start praying for the new Pope as well.

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serverph
to Wyllt: smile.gif it is a good heart which should be admired most, and not his religious leanings. you have a good heart. smile.gif

to no9t9: you are correct, everyone will die. but don't piss on anyone for wanting to pray for the recovery of a revered person who has inspired a lot of people, who even in his illness fought for Teri Shrivo's right to life, and even cared more for people of all walks of life, nationality, religion, or whatever, more than you'd care to imagine. you would be assuming too much if you think people didn't care nor even prays for people you mentioned like those people in disasters, calamities, and other individuals. a lot of people do. and we pray for souls like yours too.

to dragonfly: this is the pope's second "last rites" (it's actually called, "Anointing of the Sick/Extreme Unction"). first was when he was shot by a turkish assassin way back in 1981.

 

 

 


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dundun2007
Yea i agree with no9t9, the pope has been suffering and i feel very bad for him through these troubled times. Though the pope has lived a very good life and he is has been through alot so far. I do hope he will be able to live a longer healthier life but things dont always turn out for the best. Everyone eventually dies and there is no way of stopping it. If i was in that situation i would accept death because of all the things the pope has already brought to us i think his time may be coming short. We hope the best for the pope though, and wish him the best.

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no9t9
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and we pray for souls like yours too.


That is so amazingly offensive it's not even funny. I don't need you to pray for me. In fact, DON'T. You think you're better than me? From that comment alone, it shows you are a bigot.

I never said NO ONE prayed for Shrivo or the Tsunami/Earthquake victims. In fact, I made a point to explicitly say that. I never said it was wrong to pray for the pope. And I never said he was a bad guy.

I am pointing out that there are many more things in the world that are equally as IMPORTANT as the passing of the current pope. Why don't those other important issues get the same attention? How many people were in the streets outside the hospital supporting Teri Shrivo? I guarentee it was 100's of times less than the number of people that will be out when the pope dies.

The simple fact that there is a post on this board about the pope and nothing about Teri Shrivo indicates the disparity between the importance of the pope compared to a "regular" person.

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finaldesign
This was some crazy conversation here, I din't mean that I'll start such a agressive talk here, when I posted a topic about Pope... Anyway He is dead now and there is no need to argue anymore...

my suggestion goest to moderators to close this topic now.

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xboxrulz
can someone move the picture and delete the duplicate top section.

We need our EDIT button back... seriously!

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xboxrulz
yes, the pope just died: Full Story from the Star:

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Apr. 2, 2005. 03:38 PM
  
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  A white dove flies above the pontiff after the Angelus prayer Jan. 30.
 
VICTOR L. SIMPSON
ASSOCIATED PRESS

VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul, the Polish pontiff who led the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter century and became history's most-travelled pope, died today in his Vatican apartment. He was 84.
"The Holy Father died this evening at 9:37 p.m. in his private apartment. All the procedures outlined in the apostolic Constitution `Universi Dominici Gregis' that was written by John Paul II on Feb. 22, 1996, have been put in motion," the Holy See said in a statement.
The announcement came from papal spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls and was distributed to journalists via email. John Paul expired as cardinals were leading some 70,000 people in prayers for him in his "last journey."
The Pope died after suffering heart and kidney failure following two hospitalizations in as many months. Just a few hours earlier, the Vatican had said he was in "very serious" condition but responded to members of the papal household.
Angelo Cardinal Sodano, the Vatican No. 2 official, immediately led a tearful crowd of 70,000 people in St. Peter's Square in prayers for the dead pope.
Some people held their hands to their heads in disbelief. On other faces, tears rolled down uncontrollably. The Pope's apartment windows were still lit up following the announcement of his death.
"He was a marvellous man. Now he's no longer suffering," Concetta Sposato, a pilgrim who heard the Pope had died as she was on her way to St. Peter's Square to pray, said tearfully.
"My father died last year. For me, it feels the same," said Elisabetta Pomacalca, 25, a Peruvian who lives in Rome.
Since his surprise election in 1978, John Paul travelled the world frequently, staunchly opposing communism in his native Poland and across the Soviet bloc but also preaching against rampant consumerism, contraception and abortion.
John Paul was a robust 58-year-old when the cardinals stunned the world and elected the cardinal from Krakow, the first non-Italian pope in 455 years.
In his later years, however, John Paul was the picture of frailty, weighed down by ailments that included Parkinson's disease. Although he kept up his travels, he was too weak to kiss the ground any more.
His papacy has been marked by its call to value the aged and to respect the sick, subjects the Pope turned to as he battled Parkinson's disease and crippling knee and hip ailments. The Pope also survived a 1981 assassination attempt, when a Turkish gunman shot him in the abdomen.
A fierce enemy of communism, he set off the sparks that helped bring down communism in Poland, from where a virtual revolution spread across the Soviet bloc. No less an authority than former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev said much of the credit went to John Paul.
At the same time, John Paul was no friend of Western lifestyles, warning against rampant consumerism and casual sex.
Hospitalized twice in the past two months after breathing crises, and fitted with a breathing tube and a feeding tube, John Paul had become a picture of suffering.
The pontiff was reported to have had a fever on Thursday night, which the Vatican blamed on a urinary tract infection that later led to the heart and kidney failure.
Navarro-Valls had said earlier today that John Paul was not in a coma and opened his eyes when spoken to. But he added: "Since dawn this morning, there have been first signs that consciousness is being affected."
"He's aware he's passing to the Lord," Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, one of John Paul's closest advisers, told the Italian bishops' news agency earlier today.
The Pope was last seen in public on Wednesday when, looking gaunt and unable to speak, he briefly appeared at his window.
Cardinals from around the world were heading to Rome. After the official mourning period following the death of a pope, cardinals hold a secret vote in the Sistine Chapel to choose a successor.
The Il Secolo XIX newspaper of Genoa reported that the Pope, with the help of his private secretary Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, had written a note to his aides urging them not to weep for him.
"I am happy, and you should be as well," the note reportedly said. "Let us pray together with joy."
However, Navarro-Valls said he couldn't confirm the report, even after speaking to the Pope's secretary.


This is hot off the press. 1 minute after the pope died. :s

xboxrulz

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serverph
Pope John Paul II dies at 84

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Vatican announces death

John Paul II, whose 26-year reign as the charismatic leader of the world's 1 billion Roman Catholics was highlighted by visits to 129 countries, died Saturday. He was 84. The pope -- known for his energy, intellectualism and activism on the global stage -- died Saturday night at his apartments in the Vatican. His health had been deteriorating severely for several weeks and he had battled Parkinson's disease and crippling arthritis for years.


Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/02...dies/index.html

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xboxrulz
Since I'm an Atheist, I don't have direct ties to Roman Catholic or any religion. I just hope for the best for him. It's really sad to see a world idol slip away.

But as part of human life, we must accept that there's no immortality, therefore people dies.

It's a fact and not fiction.

xboxrulz

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