PSTUBb
May 25 2007, 01:08 PM
PHP Frameworks What do you guys think of coding websites using framworks like Zend or CakePHP? I used to code my applications from scratch but it does get tedious and because PHP is not as structured as other languages it's very easy to create redundant, unmaintainable code. I think a framework should be more than just a bunch of libraries. It's true that having libraries for functions specific to what you are trying to do might help alot but it takes more than that to create some maintainable code. What I' m talking about is MVC and Front Controllers. The Model, View, Controller (MVC) way of coding seperates the data from the functions and the functions from the display. It is much easier at this point to implement site-wide modifications and fixes. Frameworks allow you to do this easily by already having an engine to do the communication between these 3 layers. Read more on the MVC method by googling it  Here are some available Frameworks. Read up on them and their documentation and find out which one is right for you're website. Frameworks, by the way, can be difficult to learn at first, but once you get down, will greatly improve your efficiency, speed and maintainability. http://www.codeigniter.com (Very fast and light weight) http://www.cakephp.orghttp://framework.zend.com (Only runs on PHP5 but is apparently very extensive) http://www.xisc.com (Prado: Not MVC oriented) http://www.symfony-project.comhttp://seagull.phpkitchen.comhttp://www.phpwact.orgThere are plenty more out there that you can find, list your favorite, post questions etc. I'm currently learning how to use CodeIgniter, my new record label website will be built on it. (Hoping to turn this into a portable CMS which I can use in developpement of other websites, as clients don't like mucking around in HTML source and I'm tired of using other people's bloated CMS software when all I need is something simple.) Hope this helps all you programmers out there! Sean
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masugidsk8r
Jul 8 2007, 04:58 PM
I'm using CakePHP which seems to be pretty good. It acts like Ruby on Rails. The thing I don't like about PHP in general is how it handles HTML formatting. The tags are out of place when PHP parses the views. I have to use a lot of CODE echo "\n"; to clean it up a bit. Right now I'm new to it so I can't say that it is efficient as of now. However, with the ORM implemented into this framework I don't have to worry much about SQL writing and using the (mysql) functions at all, which is a lighter load for me. I haven't checked out the others that are on your list but I'm moving to Ruby on Rails as soon as I finish this project that I'm working on right now.
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