Gyad
Sep 9 2006, 12:11 AM
| | Seriously, people need to look at the date of when the topic was created sometimes. And I don't mean topics that can be revived at anytime because it's available for everyone to add a comment. I'm talking about help/support topics. I mean, obviously if a topic was created back in February, then the problem was probably solved because the topic creator never replied back. [Cookie for anyone that knows the topic I'm referring to.]
And of course, there are the people that are basically rephrasing what everyone else is saying in the topic. Sometimes, you'll find that in a topic (new or old, but usually old) there will be multiple instances of the same reply only rephrased in a different way.
So please people, try to at least see if the topic still deserves a comment after half a year before making one. |
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elevenmil
Sep 9 2006, 01:31 AM
There are certain other ways to prevent that. Obviously, it should be set up that staff closes threads that are older than a month or two. If no one replies to a thread for over a month, obviously there is no more interest. Tons of members flow in the forums per day so lets understand that as well. I try to do that at IPB Gaming, closing old posts. Yes, people on the forums don't take the time to look at dates, that's for sure. But it's not as bad as it once was here. I remember times where spam posts were made at an almost uncontrollable rate. I'm not on as much as I once was, but I rearely find that much spam around here.
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beeseven
Sep 10 2006, 04:29 PM
Someone finally said it. It's kind of stupid to see a topic near the top of the list and the title seems familiar, then I realize: "Oh, I posted in this . . . a year ago." And it happens way too much. Lots of forums have a purge system where after a certain amount of time (based on the number of posts in the topic) a topic is locked or deleted. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to implement here (there may even be a mod for it already).
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serverph
Sep 10 2006, 07:53 PM
unless you want your credits to be purged as well, i'd say it's possible to implement a purge system.  once a member is hosted, there is no turning back but to keep the posts in the forum or else it will screw up the hosting credits. then we'd all be wondering, "where did my precious hard-earned credits go?". still want it?  we have a "secret" section where we hold spam, wherein we move spam posts, and still not affect hosting credits. as for old posts getting resurrected, i'd say we allow it IF AND ONLY IF new information is shared by member who replied on it, most especially if it's an unresolved issue/topic. and yes, i'd agree with Gyad, that members should please refrain from paraphrasing anything that has been previously raised already as replies UNLESS others have no idea what the reply meant and it needs to be made clearer and more comprehensible.  as a moderator, and i speak for myself, i don't have so much the luxury to review old posts and close them since i have limited online time.  but if members are willing to assist, you can always use the REPORT button if by your assessment a thread needs to be closed. your report gets distributed to trap17 staff (admins & moderators), and it will be properly acted upon after your report is reviewed.  (addendum: don't overdo the reporting simply to ask that an old topic be closed though, so that we don't get flooded with them (take it slowly...  )... we still need to read and review more recent posts which may need greater attention.  but your assistance with your reports is highly appreciated, and we thank you all.  ) adding to Gyad's thoughts, please use the SEARCH feature of the forums before starting a new topic thread so we don't get redundant topics here.  and if you use firefox, a trap17 search plugin is available (check my sig below for the link) -- makes searching a breeze. 
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Saint_Michael
Sep 13 2006, 08:01 PM
Well I know since the new upgrade 2.1.5-to know people can create topics and the set a date to them as well. Unless that changed with this version, I could look around and see if their any mods out that set up a closed topic on a specific date automatically. I recollect seeing one but I would have to check again.
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Yacoby
Sep 15 2006, 11:13 PM
Another forum I am a (inactive) member of has a great feature. When you want to post in a topic that is over 150 days old, you have to check a box to say you know that the topic is old etc. It does help cut down this problem a bit. It doesn't help with the problem of 5 post saying the same things in different ways though.
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Saint_Michael
Sep 15 2006, 11:21 PM
the problem lies in with the search feature of forum you only can put in like 1 word and it will bring up every single posts. Trying to put in a 2 ore more words gives out these errors. I tried to look at the first couple of pages see if anything comes up. Before posting.
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Mjay06
Sep 16 2006, 01:12 AM
Wouldnt it be possible for staff to simply close the thread once it becomes clear the problem has been solved? That way people wont be able to make pointless posts, any information that might help other members would still be on show, & it would still appear in search results.
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Albus Dumbledore
Sep 16 2006, 02:00 AM
i dont think that everyone who posted here saying the mods should go through and close the old topics realize that there are only 16 mods and two admins, both admins active, and only like 9-10 who are really active enough to do all this. personally, i jsut think people should just know not to post in topics that are that old or that are resolved... its common sense, but common sense and good judgment doesn't come two in one.
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midnitesun
Sep 16 2006, 03:29 AM
well it certainly makes no sense in replying to a topic which has been resolved by an earlier post unless the solution you are giving is a modification or an improved one than the earlier solution , but i see many times the same thing been repeated over and over again especially if it is a long post , the reason i believe is some just read the original post and never bother to read the answers or simply do not bother and post just for the sake of getting credit ,certainly some problems will be solved if the topic is closed after it recieved significant posts , i have recently seen for example a post about someone's site not being included in google search engine and there had been several replys as to why it might have happened , so a guy came and posted his opinion but then the post was i think more than or equal to a year old and his site would have probably been indexed by any search engine and whatever reply will not be of any use to the topic starter, so i dont see any reason why someone should post a reply to it or to say the least why that topic should be active at all ,then again i understand how difficult it will be for moderators to go through tons of posts and check their validity every now and then ,so i guess posters should be encouraged and educated about the need to read every posts for a particular topic he wishes to reply , see its age and relevancy ,otherwise one could even say it is a kind of spamming if everyone keeps posting the same reply is it not ? , but in my opinion there are some die hard posts which are ever popular and have no relevance to when it is posted , like for example the post about how you discovered trap17 , a forum can only be neat and clean if the users make it , there is nothing the admins or moderators can do to influence what is going to be posted , they can only do a little more laundary for the post or throw it to the garbage .
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Cherish
Sep 21 2006, 02:56 AM
I definitly agree that people should refrain from posting the same thing re-phrased over and over again, though there really isn't much anyone can do about this, seeing as some topics on here have 16 (and up) pages and nobody wants to read all that before posting. It's almost guaranteed that someone will re-state something similar to another, oblivious that they are doing so. Five posts in a row, however, can and should be taken care of, as the person doing so was clearly only trying to gain credits. As long as we're coming up with ways to prevent things like this, people should just learn to explore the topic a little further before posting. (At least the first and last page >_>)
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Saint_Michael
Sep 16 2006, 04:26 PM
Right now the only topics that would require to be close all those who have questions and problems with their accounts. When it comes to programming they only need to closed if it's beating a dead horse ie: post are becoming repetitived. Anything community related is open 24/7 reguardless of how old it is. Like the How did you Trap17 Poll topic.
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beeseven
Sep 16 2006, 04:08 PM
I don't see the problem with just automatically closing old topics, though. They don't have to be deleted. You could at least make the bar that shows the date that the post was made a little bigger. Maybe you could make it so that it would grow over time.
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