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QUOTE(sheepdog @ Mar 27 2008, 01:16 AM)  Abortion of a fetus is one thing, but when you are talking about partial birth abortion, your talking about a baby that is ready to come into this old crazy world and survive as a normal infant. Sucking out it's brains with a tube as it comes out is not my idea of abortion. I think it is pretty disgusting. And I am quite liberal about abortion otherwise. We have enough humans in the world. Stupid humans at that. So stupid it takes them 9 months to decide to have an abortion?????? Usually it's about 6 to 7 months. But I agree. If you're going to put off the decision that long, then you might as well have the baby. I mean, really, the baby should be noticeable at 4 months. (No, kasm, 8 weeks is not enough. Anyway, it's too fuzzy a line to enforce very strongly. Between conception and implantation, the embryo does not develop inside the mother, and can be miscarried if any serious genetic problems arise.) Pretty much partial-birth abortion is the only method I have any beef against.
I'm definitely pro-choice... but I just can't agree with partial-birth abortions. The mass of cells isn't quite just a mass of cells anymore. It's sort of something that could definitely live, even if it does require a bit of help.
QUOTE(Joshua @ Jan 31 2008, 07:03 AM) What I didn't see mentioned here is that with partial birth abortion, there have been many instances where the children survived the abortion and, under the law, can legally be left to starve to death on hospital beds. In cases where they were rescued, some have lived to tell about it. Barack Obama voted against all bills that would've stopped this horrible practice but refused to give a reason for his actions. It is why I oppose Obama more than any other candidate in America. I'd prefer seeing Clinton in office to him, just like I preferred seeing Bush in office over Kerry (though I voted for neither, but for Michael Peroutka instead). Barak Obama is the past President of Harvard School of Law. He's an expert on the Constitution. He voted against the legislation because he found it to be unconstitutional. Bear in mind that children are not recognized as human beings under the constitution. I know that sounds strange, but it is because children can't have the rights of an adult. Do we want to see children with the right to bear arms, for example? Since the Constitution doesn't recognize a fetus as a human being, the only rights under consideration are the reproductive rights of the mother. I do believe that there may be a basis for banning abortions on the state level, but not the federal level. I don't want my kids having rights equal to my own!!
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