QUOTE(Inspiron @ Mar 29 2006, 09:25 PM) As for the Acid Test, I'm not sure if you had actually tested it in Opera browser. You stated that it doesn't look good on yours. Are you calling me a liar? You better not be. Does that look the same as the screenshot you posted? Not it doesn't. It's clearly different. Now go back to that page in Opera and try scrolling. It looks even worse.

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Hey Tyssen, please don't think it this way. No offense in my post in any way.

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Tyssen, the post clearly states that it is in Opera 9 and not Opera 8.5 that it works. It works sometimes in Opera 8.5 though.

When I have been designing, there has been lots of issues both in Firefox and Opera, even if the code is 100% correct, and I have to write awkward pieces of code to make it work in all browsers. Anyway, it has been harder to me to program for Firefox than for Opera.

Well, the main reasons that I use Opera are:
The only thing I do is not browsing the web. I'm sure Firefox is good if you do that, but I actually SURF on the web. Firefox is too slow to let me do that

Also, I actually have a e-mail. So, I want to read it. Not online, as that would be too slow (even in Opera). So I'm using a mail client. Opera have a mail client, with notices (with sounds) appearing when you get a mail, even if Opera is minimized. That's good, and I can answer fast. Of course, there are other clients doing that, but I prefer to not have too much in my start menu.

I am also downloading lots of things. So, I need a client that lets me download something without opening new windows. In Opera, I can have tabs for downloads (and mail, and chat and every shortcuts I need), which will have a small additional window next to the page I'm browsing telling the status of all downloads.

Also, I am sometimes closing tabs accidently. It's good to open them again without having to browse the history. That's a feature I miss in Firefox.

When I'm browsing, I often have pages open that I do not want to bookmark, but still have them when I come back. Opera is excellent, as it lets you open the same pages that were open when you closed.

I am also active in Wikipedia. For me, it's important to have a fast browser for that. Also, I am active in the Wikipedia chat. Of course, I could download mIRC or another IRC-client, but again, this will lead to many open windows. So I'm using Opera.

I like to see the status of my website, such as the encoding, the SIZE of the page (very handy to know) etc. Everything like can be opened without having to click click click and open new windows.

Also, it's good to use shortcuts to navigate EVEN faster.

Furthermore, notes are handy.

And to end, I would like to tell you that Firefox is NOT faster than Internet Explorer.

 

 

 

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I wasn't disputing that. My point is/was that the browser with the best CSS support that is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW is FF 1.5. So Opera 9 is due soon and it's going to be better; Firefox 2.0 is in alpha development too so who's to say it won't be better again. The argument should only be based on what is currently publicly available.

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I personnaly really like firefox. But i havent tried the opera browser. I have heard a mixed review of it. But i think i will test it out and see how it compares to firefox.

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Actually Tyssen had make very good points also. Being what is currently publicly available, I guess both browsers stand in good competition between it's own standards. The best way is to get both Opera and Firefox. That should render alot better efficiency in web browsing as we will be sure most things will work on the web with both. I also cannot deny that Opera renders everything perfectly. A good example is Gmail where it wasn't a supported browser some time back. Now Google make it compatible so it's not a big problem using Opera to check Gmail inbox.

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And I in fact do. I use both Opera and Firefox every day. And not just for testing. I use Opera as my email client and for all my webmail and use Firefox for normal browsing and as my primary testing browser. I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've developed a site in Firefox (and working around for IE along the way) that hasn't been nearly 100% fine in Opera as well.

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