AlternativeNick
Jun 7 2006, 02:14 PM
Firstly, this could really be used for anything, from generating power, to the perpetual motion topic i see below, to just plain entertainment. First of all, think about what always lands on its feet ( a cat ) Next, what always lands butter side down? ( bread/toast ) so the key to unlimited energy/perpetual motion/the universe is this > Duct tape a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, with the butter facing away from the cat. Drop the cat/toast thing from a height of approxiametly 3 ft ( higher for more entertaining results) Since the cat MUST land on its feet, and the toast HAS TO land butter side down, the combination will cause en everlasting spin, which could be used to drive generators, or just for a good laugh. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A real idea : I know everyone here has had some sort of problem with cup holders in their car. i was thinking today, and i think this could be done very inexpensively. What it would require is a small inner tube like object that could be inflated and would fit around most fast food cups and inside a cupholder when fully inflated. Also, a sensor to tell when the cup is being set down/lifted up. When the cup is lifted, the sensor would tell the inner tube to deflate because the cup is going straight up, not at an angle. Then, when it is set back into the cupholder, the inner tube will redeflare, holding it there.
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wild20
Jun 7 2006, 03:21 PM
Lol. Nice one, I think I feel sorry for the cat though. But the bigger one would win, I bet the cat would stop the spin. Also, while they were falling, they would hit the ground sometime, would they land on their side? The only way to make them keep spinning is to suspend them in the air.  this is making me sick, thinking about all the spinning. Thanks for the laughs 
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Madkat-Z
Jun 7 2006, 06:43 PM
 I never thought of that...but it might just work. Since those are laws of nature, they cannot be broken *does alot of math calculations* Yes! You done it! By Trap, you've solved the energy crises!Ok, seriously now. The laws of physics out way the laws of of old wives tales, but it was a rather amusing thought.
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AlternativeNick
Jun 7 2006, 06:55 PM
well im glad you enjoyed it, but is no one going to read my 2nd idea? it actually could work and i think its a good idea!
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CaptainJerry
Jun 7 2006, 06:57 PM
My cat would figure out a way to EAT the bread before either one of them hit the ground! (He's such a pig!) PMSL... //Captain.Jerry/
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Madkat-Z
Jun 7 2006, 07:07 PM
QUOTE A real idea : I know everyone here has had some sort of problem with cup holders in their car. i was thinking today, and i think this could be done very inexpensively. What it would require is a small inner tube like object that could be inflated and would fit around most fast food cups and inside a cupholder when fully inflated. Also, a sensor to tell when the cup is being set down/lifted up.
When the cup is lifted, the sensor would tell the inner tube to deflate because the cup is going straight up, not at an angle. Then, when it is set back into the cupholder, the inner tube will redeflare, holding it there. Ok...I missed this one, sorry about that AlternativeNick.  Anyway to me I haven't had a problem with my cup holders in my car, but with how funky cup designs are getting now the inner tube idea might come in handy. The only problem is, if the inner tube inflates enough to get secure the cup in place, it may inflate too much making it impossible to move it up to activate the sensor. I hope I'm understanding your problem your trying to solve. 
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JC05
Jun 7 2006, 07:48 PM
Hey great ideas. That is really funny. Although the butter might not always land butter side down. lol. Then you would just have to take a break from laughing and restart. lol
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CaptainJerry
Jun 7 2006, 08:35 PM
Okay, here's an idea.... 1) The United States digs a moat along the Southern States, the length of Mexico. 2) We take all of the dirt, and build up the levees around New Orleans, really high. 3) We wait for hurricane season to fill the moat with rainwater. 4) We take all of the Florida alligators, and put 'em IN the moat! Now how many problems would that solve? LOL //Captain.Jerry/
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matto
Jun 7 2006, 10:26 PM
Hows about two identicle pieces of buttered toast? And as far as the cupholder idea goes, it's a great one and would greatly decrease the amount of accidents that occur when one spills one's coffee on one's self. But I'm too young to know about that, can't drive yet -.-
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Mich
Jun 7 2006, 10:58 PM
QUOTE(CaptainJerry @ Jun 7 2006, 04:35 PM)  Okay, here's an idea....
1) The United States digs a moat along the Southern States, the length of Mexico.
2) We take all of the dirt, and build up the levees around New Orleans, really high.
3) We wait for hurricane season to fill the moat with rainwater.
4) We take all of the Florida alligators, and put 'em IN the moat!
Now how many problems would that solve? Hi  Haven't run across you before.
Now this sounds like a good idea. If only mother nature would co-operate, which she probably will eventually. One problem I see is it would polute the Rio Grand and the environmentalists would have a field day with that one. As well the animal rights activists would be defending the alligators. But it is a cool idea anyway CaptainJerry.
I agree with matto on the 2 pieces of toast. That would save the poor cat from harm.
May I ask what's the significance of "Captain" ?
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squeaky
Aug 10 2006, 07:28 PM
Ha! It seems like you have a engineer side of you that thinks of new ideas and are better for us. The idea of buttered toast landing on butter side down sounds like one episode of MythBusters on discovery channel. It seems like something to really think about. But for the cat, do they actually land on their feet? I wouldn't want to harm the little kitty and be caught by the animal humane people for cruelity to animals. Also, you idea of the cup holding-self inflatting contraption is very creative, but I would think it would be too much of a hassle to account for. There would be high cost inolved if brought on to market and proved unsuccessful and problems would probably occur. Although there are problems, I do like the idea and it seems like something worth testing out! Maybe some modifications would be gel surrounded cup holders that would stretch and accommodate many cup sizes? Or the simple adjustible ring ability that is already been thought of.
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Cerebral Stasis
Jul 25 2006, 10:41 PM
The cupholder idea is clever, but unfortunately a bit impractical. In any case, the best sensor would be a weak IR sensor that would be able to see only half an inch above said sensor or so, detecting if an object (such as a cup) was set in place, then the tubing would be inflated snugly around the cup (but not so tight that one could not lift the cup), and then when one began to lift the cup (1/2 inch), the IR sensor would no longer detect the cup and would deflate the tubing. A more practical (and currently implemented) design would be/is a robot-like gripper that snaps to different sizes (not automatically, mind you) in order to hold most any size of cup.
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hh89
Jul 25 2006, 06:38 PM
QUOTE(AlternativeNick @ Jun 7 2006, 07:14 AM)
Since the cat MUST land on its feet, and the toast HAS TO land butter side down, the combination will cause en everlasting spin, which could be used to drive generators, or just for a good laugh.
Ha, that's pretty good. I would have never thought of that...but you do know that what goes up, must come down. 
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Joshua
Jul 11 2006, 12:08 AM
I don't know about the cupholder idea. With windows, something goes wrong with the wiring and they're permanently stuck until fixed. The technology sounds like it could get a bit pricey and might be delicate as well. It might not work too long in a minivan with a bunch of rowdy kids. However... what about this? A cupholder, plastic as normal, but with something where you pull it and the plastic round parts go inside or outside each other so it can get larger or smaller. It wouldn't be tough to make, could fit many sizes, and then when the silly bottom breaks (as they often tend to do) it might still be possible to tighten it and have it keep working anyway.
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dyknight
Jul 2 2006, 09:24 AM
Heya the cat and bread one was real funny. But scientifically, I think the cat will land on its feet, since its weight will definitely be greater than that of the butter and turn it the other way round. I had a good laugh, thanks. Anyway, I think it would be possible to install another sensor on the tube, such that it stops inflating once the sides grip the cup. This could be done by detecting the pressure. Once the tube touches the cup, it will "squeeze" the air inside and increase the pressure. You have a brilliant idea.
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