ongnoai
Feb 1 2006, 07:42 AM
QUOTE(beeseven @ Jan 26 2006, 02:34 AM) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11013519/?GT1=7538Astronomers have found a new planet that they say is the smallest known planet not in our solar system. It's about 5.5 times bigger than Earth and its sun is about 1/5 the size of ours. It's also 28 000 light-years away. The article does not say whether they think that it could have any kind of life. Hey, From what I caught, the surface temperature of this planet has been estimated to -200 Degrees Celsius, which is rather uncomfortable for any kind of life form to survive, especially ours. Cheers folks 
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lodd
Feb 1 2006, 08:11 AM
It seems that a lot of people are wondering how they managed to see a planet from so far away. Well, normally, you wouldn't be able to see it coz of all the other light sources (stars) in between and in the way. Think of trying to look at the moon in the middle of the day. Its tough right? That's because the sun is in the way and gets in your eyes. But what these brillant people did was to use a telescope that could record (digitally) all the frequencies of light that it receives. This includes all that other light that you cant see (that's not in the visible spectrum) like ultra-violet light. This helps them get a clearer overall picture of what the planet/start looks like. But there's still a problem of all that glare. So then they use a computer to filter out most of the light in order to get a good view of the planet, akin to using sunglasses to block out most of the sun to see the moon. But it can still only see a planet based on the light reflected off it. As far as I know, that's the reason that the smallest planet they can find is 5.5 time the size of earth. (They can only find planets big enough to reflect a lot of light). Hope that explained it and correct me if i'm wrong. Ciao
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alfredglenstein
Feb 1 2006, 04:24 PM
What an awesome discovery! I still think that if any planet is the answer, it will be Mars. I'm not about to argue that Mars does support life, but it sounds reasonable to argue that it can be made to. But perhaps we should just make the most of this planet, and not destroy it? That would be a very good solution also.
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Cerebral Stasis
Feb 1 2006, 04:58 PM
This is going out in a completely different direction, but terraforming Mars would take centuries, and even then, it may not be warm enough to support life as we know it. And I'm not completely sure we are "destroying" our planet. Sure, there's all this talk about destroying the enviroment and such, but just a decade it was all about "Global Warming" and now it's all about "Global Cooling", as if the minds that be cannot decide which to complain about. Maybe we should all start whining about a "Global Medium."
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sniperkiller
May 2 2007, 07:36 PM
before we start thinking about living on other planets, lets first imagine how we would live there we can't make space stations yet (i'm leaving the nasa ones for biostuff and observation away), but a seriously big one if we can make such stations, then interplanetary travel will be an option now it already takes almost a week to go to the moon, imagine travelling to mars another thing that we need to improve => the rocket engines, they are way too weak to travel at a faster speed but rocket engines are another topic ^^ also what would we grow there for food ? terraforming might be a consideration, but as "cerebral statis" tells us, it will take a century to terraform that planet if i could influence some decisions on earth, i'd consider to start terraforming a small piece already  and then expand on time, or just test if terraforming would work on that planet, you never know what happens since no one ever tried it before, the terraforming process, how would we know if the ground is properly formed for colony civilisation?? growing plants might be an option but another problem then, NO AIR ? unless they start thinking about building an outpost or space station, they will never know how to make stuff properly it will take billions of cash to create such things, and to get them into space, including fitting them together and proplery checking for any holes or misplaced things having the thoughts of an outpost / space station keeps the human race dreaming, but if it will ever happen, thats for the future... now we can only create the beginning of a new time just in case our planet says "screw you" and decides to kick us off the surface by all kinds of natural disasters well i hope nasa or other space companies are already thinking of planetarial stations and housing (just in case ^^) if they are, hopefully they do some testings soon... else we're gonna get bored afterall
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Mermaid711
May 2 2007, 11:01 PM
Hmmm. They might look into this planet for an escape for when the sun reaches the nova point. It's in evitable. You know. They could build one of those dome thingies that they stuck some people in for four years, or build an undergroun community, but then comes the problem of where to put the animals or the water. But it is definitly something to look into.
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Watermonkey
May 2 2007, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(Cerebral Stasis @ Jan 31 2006, 01:30 PM)  Did you even pay attention? It has been said twice in this thread already that the planet is 5.5 times the size of Earth. Now, if you have gotten past third grade, you should know that "times the size" means it's LARGER, as in BIGGER, as in NOT SMALL. Just because it's the smallest planet found outside our solar system doesn't mean the planet is small. I don't know what decade you are from, but here in the early 21st century, scientists have found over 100 extrasolar planets, the first having been found in 1995. Read more here. Furthermore, scientists can see the stars VERY well. Those gigantic orbital telescopes and massive Earth-based mirrors aren't just for show. That's the best sarcastic post I've seen for quite a while man! I love it! Though Haslip's subtle hint on longer more meaningful posts was good too... Yes, this semi-advanced planet of ape-like animals has figured out how to launch large hunks of glass and electronic controllers into orbit around the Earth and many of these gadgets have been tasked to find nearby planetary bodies. Unfortunately, we're still not to the level yet that these ingenious devises can detect bodies as small as the ball of mud we live on, they're getting smaller all the time. They've still got a lot of progress to be made, though. Oh, and 28k light years is really really really close to Sol, in the grand scheme of things. Like spitting distance compared to a planet on the other side of Andromeda...
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hitmanblood
May 6 2007, 06:35 PM
OK I read posts in this topic and found several mistakes in them firstly it is called planet so its surface temperature is less then surface temperature on the earth then its sun is smaller providing that it produces less heat and as the planet is far its temperatures might be equivalent to the Neptune and so on. Then again it is larger then the earth so its gravity is larger != fun. As one guy wrote less gravity = fun I would like to point also several other things which are commonly known among the scientist and I don't know why are they putting such stupid news inn the news reports. Because some of them state that on the planets surface there is like water but anyone studing either physics or chemistry will know that this is find by using method called spectroscopy and if sun rays travel trough water vapor anywhere from that planet till this ours earth and they pass trough water vapor we can think that there is water vapor on that planet. It is just absurd thing to think. And if there is life in the universe it can be on any planet not just on our earth or earth like planet as it will probably be different then our life and we might even have some problems percieveing it.
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FLaKes
May 6 2007, 09:25 PM
Interesting, I wonder if by the time we ever get there it will already have animals or civilizations developing in it. This is really cool news I can definitely see humanity travelling and expanding to other planets just like they did with the Americas.
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street
May 7 2007, 02:50 AM
Wow that is really instresting another planted that has similar traits like us i wonder how long it took to make that planet? Now that makes me wonder if that planet is still in the development change and in the near future become another earth. That might be telling us that the earth that we are on now is going to be gone but we never know only the future will tell.
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