Read Latest Entries..: (Post #37) by Señor Maniac on Apr 12 2006, 09:39 AM. (Line Breaks Removed)
I am in favor of the credit system here. Most people that are at this webiste were not here back when the site was first starting out. You were at the mercy of Opaque. If he didn't think that you were posting or if he did not notice some of your posts then your hosting was cut off. The credit system has done wonders though. It has been able to take a load off of Opaque's shoulders ma... read more.
I think you should give us more credits on our post. The reason is I find it very difficult to com eon here every single day and think of something new to post. Its really hard and a long procress since you don't get credits in the forums that are easy to think of stuff to post. You have to post a paragraph atleast just to get one credit which seems not good enough. If I want to post something how is it possible to think of a few paraghraphs just so I can keep my hosting service?I would like it if you raised the creditting a little bit to make it a little easeir for us to keep our hosting account and remain active. Thank.
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i agree that they should raise it up a little because ive only been here for a few months.. lol and ive posted allot of the things that i know and i find that it is getting more and more difficult to get new ideals for like tutorials, or even general talk..i still think that the movie review section *see previous suggestion on this forum* would be a good thing to have on here to help get credits etc....
i agree that they should raise it up a little because ive only been here for a few months.. lol and ive posted allot of the things that i know and i find that it is getting more and more difficult to get new ideals for like tutorials, or even general talk..i still think that the movie review section *see previous suggestion on this forum* would be a good thing to have on here to help get credits etc....
i've only been here a few days and i have to disagree 100%. you have over 400 posts and even if it only gave you 1 day credit per post, you should have well over 1 years hosting. i average about 3 credits per post right now.
i don't like to write but when i do, i can talk anyones ear off. i try to be specific to a posted topic when i reply and i will rarely post 1 or two lines because if i did that, i probably didn't have anything important to respond about in the first place. i try to make my posts as informative as possible. rather than increasing the credits for posting, i would rather see more quality posts from people. if people can't make quality posts and having a hard time living with the rules here, make the choice not to be here. this topic in my opinion belongs in the venting forum as i know there was a similar discussion about this the other day.
i've only been here a short time and seen alot of whining about problems they don't like about trap17. i just got hosted, i just made my dns changes and can access my control panel now. instead of being gratefull for what this place has to offer, some people have to complain. if you have to complain, this place isn't right for you and you should find another place that suits you. trap17 from my understanding does the best they can and they know if they could please everyone, they WOULD but they know like i know that it's impossible and you can't please evryone, but you can usually please the majority which is what they are doing.
instead of trap 17 changing, maybe some of the users should change. trap17 for the most part has been successfull so why change what is working? they welcome opinions which is good but they should NEVER welcome laziness.
everytime i hear postings like this, i hope they forgive me but i have a HUGE need to respond because they deserve credit where it's deserved. and people should have no problem with posting to get free hosting that would normally run at the CHEAPEST for what they offer, $15 a month. that adds up to $180 a year!!!
there are 365 days in a year so lets break it down to one post a day for one credit a day. what's 1 credit? it's about 2 1/2 lines. so if you are posting something of quality, you would be taking 5 minutes of your time to write 10-15 lines for 4-6 credits. if you do that, then all you really need to do is post once a week! BIG DEAL! if anything they should lower the credit system. not raise it. THAT would ensure and force people to make more quality posts.
but a main problem is the more credits you get the less credits you will recieve from each post..and the more posts you make the less you will recieve from each post...and no i do not have well over a year or anywhere near a year..but you also just joined here and have hardly any credits and so you can get allot of credits per post but once you get higher you will get less and less and less credits per post..
I have been on since november and have made well over 500 credits. Holding the Trap Awards and changing domains cost me a bit and I have lost some for times I am not on but right now I am holding it at about 130 credits and I can't really come on anymore. All I do is look for new topics and post my opinion or look in here for new people with questions and try to help them. I post when I can and I hold up fine.
Thanks Anwiii...Thanks a ton! I dont know...why do members always complain about the credit system..when they actually know that they cant get a fair system like this anywhere else. I dont remember myself now...that in how many different sections I've answered the same question in the last 7-8 months! If anyone still wants to know...what did I say...then read Anwiii's post...it was almost similar and near to it (well, I've already read Anwiii's post thrice and I am really impressed with the post, great going Anwiii)
As for the issue where youAs for the issue where you get less credits per post, it is obviously a good strategy. If someone like “Albus Dumbledore” does receive the 400 credits then he would indeed have over a year of hosting. Just by staying on the forums for a couple of months, he has received a year of good free hosting which is extremely hard to come by with all the fake sites out there. Although I agree that it is hard to meet the posting requirements, we have to think about the people who are hosting these things for us, they obviously don’t want to have hundreds of people ditching the forums because they have enough credits to last for the year or something like that. They get money to host our sites from the ads they have on the pages. Ad’s mostly run on “impressions” and “clicks” impressions meaning just by loading the page, but if the same person looks at the ad 100 times in a week, obviously it won’t count that much towards the amount they earn from it, but if you see it 100 times over a span of half a year or so, it would count more then 100 times in a week. Therefore the posting requirement is necessary to maintain their hosting service.
True, there are some people out there who only want to pot in the minimal effort and ditch the community. I think the system is fair, and if you have lots of things you want to share with other members - imagine how many possible hosting credits those could lead to. I guess the only problem I would have is the amount of web space. 150 megs is sufficient for a lot of people...until it comes to a point where you need more space for other projects you may strart up (i.e. photo galleries, podcasting, etc.).
i must say i have just had my first "suspension" due to low credits just recently and I must say while it was annoying, it was my own fault that i didn't post. While increasing the amount of hosting credits per post is a nice idea, i don't expect it to happen. One thing that I would like to see is a way that people who make "quality" posts could get some bonus credits from the mods or admins or something similar.
I also agree with you guys that they should increase the credits based on our posts. It is hard to accumulate a lot of credits especially if you have already checked and read most of the topics available at the forum.
And about having more than 400 post and that we should be having credits for a year by now.... The first few months at the forum the inactivity of a members was not yet based on the credits. We were told to be active by visiting and posting at the forum at once per week. Even though we had so much posts made here before, the credit script only started when I had reached the 250 or 300 post. And I have to start accumulating the credits as if i was a new member.
I am in favor of the credit system here. Most people that are at this webiste were not here back when the site was first starting out. You were at the mercy of Opaque. If he didn't think that you were posting or if he did not notice some of your posts then your hosting was cut off. The credit system has done wonders though. It has been able to take a load off of Opaque's shoulders making sure that everyone had the posts that they needed to get in. Also making posts for this site is not as hard as people think. I mean if you do not see a topic that you like all that you have to do is to start a topic on what you would like to discuss. It is really not that hard.
Well, you know what, if you feel that you don't like our services, then go elsewhere. It's that simple. The credit system here is EXTREMLY fair. Some users may have difficulty posting here due to their lifestyle or own abilities, but the system in incredibly fair. I thank OpaQue so much for it. If you think Clubhost City is better, then just stay there. Also, advertising on this forum is against the rules, so you might want to edit that post.
This is NOT the fariest credit system. A site called clubhost city just requires you to make a certain number of posts monthly. you have to make 31 credits here to last for a month but in clubhost only about 10 posts.
William91, I am not not sure where you got your information but Clubhost City does NOT require any forum posting whatsoever!
Where in the world did you get the idea of 10 posts from?
We require hosting applicants to signup for a login on our forum community before they can apply for web hosting but we do not require any forum posting or any kind of forum participation. It is your choice if you want to participate in our forum community and our community only exists just to give our members a place to talk to other members and that's about it.
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While they offer more space and bandwidth and similar cPanel features with their free accounts, I wonder how long they can maintain these services, the forums appear to have been active for less than 12 months. There appears to be no advertising in the forums and they say there is no advertising on the free hosting sites. How do they generate revenue to keep the free hosting going? It does not seem to me like a sustainable venture, at least with Trap17 at does appear to be sustainable giving me confidence that they will be offering free hosting for quite some time to come.
In the end, if you think you would be happier at Clubhost, then go there. It's as simple as that.
How Long? ROFL! That is even funnier than what William91 wrote above!
Clubhost City first opened on January 2, 1997 and has been providing FREE web hosting for more than 9 years. As far as we are aware, we may be the oldest FREE host still in existance (or very close to it)!
Revenue? We have no need! Our FREE hosting project is directly supported by the excess profits and advertising revenue of 54 other commercial web hosting companies that we directly own as well as a percentage of the profits of the 800+ reseller providers who purchase their hosting from us.
Clubhost City ....
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Over the past 9+ years, we have had less than 3 days total combined downtime and presently we have had a 100% perfect uptime record since March 2005 (date of our last brief outage) which is well beyond 'excellent'!
Regarding your forum date observation, the current posts only go back about a year because a botched software upgrade in March 2005 corrupted and we just decided to go ahead and wipe the whole forum community instead of wasting time repairing the database corruption. The forum community had been running continuously for over 5 years and really needed a good cleanup anyway so it was a good opportunity just to go ahead and reset everything.
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Although I accept the credit system, there´s one thing definitely not good about. I´m talking about holidays. Next week it´s "semana santa" here... I think english people call it easter or eastern... don´t know. Anyway, let´s talk about summer for example. Most people go out for a month or so and if you want your site to be safe, you need to make a great extra amount of posts before. And again, it´s very artificial because you don´t post because you want... you´re writing unnecessary things just no to get your account suspended.
Maybe isn´t possible, but ¿why not paralyze or ralentize the decreasing of post number on these holidays?
man, that just sucks! people gone for a month and neglect their website and no new content, they SHOULD be given credit during this time. they deserve it.
you know what's wrong with that thinking besides the obvious(duh)? if they had a credit system like that, i would take advantage of it and i would just tell 'm i'm gonna be gone when i'm really not. actually, i would do that. i lied. but others would. i like this place personally. it was all about getting a free website at first but i like their system here and most of the people. what i don't like is whiners and people who try take advantage of an already fair system.
i'm one of "people" that call easter EASTER and i think trap17 has fair rules and guidlines. it's funny how you don't call easter "easter" and want to complain about how unfair it is.
now you know what i would like to see? anyone who thinks things are unfair should have only ONE PLACE to post about it and that is the VENT FORUM which to me is the only place it's good for and anyone who wants to post it about it anywhere else should get their account suspended without warning because they didn't like the place in the first place and i am tired of reading this crap.
now with that out of the way, i offer a suggesting to your comment if you are going to be away for a while. i suggest to make the appropriate posts before hand with good quality content. if you don't get your credits high enough and you made a decent effort to be responsible, then send a mail to the admins and tell them your situation with a hope that they can allow your account not to be suspended during the remaining time. i'll bet you haven't even gone so far to even try this suggestion and you're just complaining about it though....
man i try so hard somtimes just to not get warned my own self......blah!
I don't really agree with this, because I think the credit system is fair, and if you do have the time to post things, you should have no problem getting credits. Normally I'm fine with getting them, but as of late, I've been swamped with school and work, so it's been hard to come on and post meaningful messages that will keep my site from being suspended.
In fact, there's been several times in the last half a year or so that my site has gone down because I just wasn't able to get the posts in, and when I do, it's not usually enough to last me very long. Over Christmas I was able to get about 40 credits saved up, which was nice, because I had the time off, and obviously they've been used up now, which kind of sucks, but makes sense as they can't last forever.
I do wish though that the more credits you've made, that the amount you get for posting didn't go down. I like to come online and try to make a bunch knowing that I'll probably not get around to (or even be able to post with my schedule) make up more credits later. Usually I can only get on here way less than when I first started her, and way less then I'd like to.
Even now, I'd like to look through the posts, because I learn a lot from them, but I don't really have time for that either. I have to be running off to class in about 10 minutes, so this'll probably all the credits that I get for the time being, which is kind of a shame, because I'm at 1.something credits right now as it is, so even with this post, it isn't going to last me to the end of the week.
Meaning either my site goes down again, or I'll have to remember to come on again very soon to post more stuff.
So, all in all, I think the system is mostly fair the way it is... the lack of credits is obviously my fault... but when I do have the time to post... like now, I'd like to get equal credits for posts that are made when I am able to get lots of credits saved up.
* edit: This post actually brought me up to 8 credits, which makes me very surprised and happy. So, yea, you can get good credits... but that was a long rant, so it took a long time to think of/write all that.
As I already mentioned in the other topic, OpaQue has resolved one of the two reasons I am still
hosted, but he has yet to address the second. I would love it if non-hosted members are able to
award credits. Now I understand why it is disabled, because they gain credits faster than hosted
members, but you could put some kind of conversion tax on it so it balances out. I wouldn't
mind. I just feel like I'm wasting a credit a day on nothing. The only reason I still have my
site is so I can give out credits /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D....
Hy peeps. That forum "Post a new topic in My Ideas, Theories, Possiblities, Innovation"
(possiblities is misspelled /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0"
alt="huh.gif" /> ), is forum forum for my first posts, and i guess for few last ones (unless it gets
accepted /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />) j/k
(memories) Anyway trap has a good offer for 250 credits for one year of domain, and i was wondering
why can't be an offer for 250 credits for one year of hosting. Here's how i think ....
OK its come to me that since people apply for hosting sights and are getting it without any problem,
so there is some BW and webspace not used by anyone atm. Why not give active members possibility to
get more BW and space? and by active i mean very active. Lets say i have a 30 credit pack. Upkeeping
that pack costs me 1 credit per day (30 per month) I can apply for another 30credit pack, but it
would cost me 60 credit and cost me another 1 credit per day (30 for this one and 30 for the
previous = 60 credits per month). Basicly you'll be getting another acount but wi....
I tried searching for this topic but the results were too vast in number to be able to go through,
so I hope someone could clear my question. Trap17 mention quality over quantity and more credits
will be awarded to the amount of quality there is in a post. However how does Trap17 define quality
in this sense? Do they have a mechanism whereby they analyse each post and then assign credits to
the user if he meets the requirement? Someone please enlighten me /wink.gif"
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Hi everyone, As from the forum details/rules/news etc, it is clear that the revenue comes from the
advertisers, opening the forum and even clicking (without posting anything)can do the job. In my
opinion credits should be awarded for Opening Page and browsing. And ofcourse QUALITY POSTING.
This way no body will be tempted to post unnecessarytopic/spam etc. Admin, please correct me if I
am mistaken. Thanks.}}....
I've always noticed that you could only view your credits by going to the home page of the
forum, but didn't really think of having it anywhere else until now. My idea is to put the
little hosting credits box on every page (maybe a slightly minimixed version of it, without all of
the "if you aren't hosted..." info), so that we can save a pageload everytime we want to check
how many credits we have.....
I sometimes see trap17 members complaining about spending hours a day in an attempt to sustain
hosting credits. This is especially true in the reviews. It really isn't that hard. Here's
my advice on doing so efficiently. 1. The number of posts you make at trap17 doesn't determine
how many credits you receive. The staff even announced it, and it should be quite obvious, really.
Credits are determined by the content and quality of your posts. Make longer ones, I guess. 2. So
how do I sustain a nifty amount of credits? First, set a time you can post at trap17 ....
Firstly I was wondering if I can hava an astahost and a trap17 host form account at the same time?
and secondly, I don't think it's possable but what if I could then transfer credits from one
to the other, perhapse if the admin wishes with a tax rate (exchange rate)....
I say you should create an online store with which you can sell say, top level domains for like,
2000 points or something, get rid of ads for 3500 points, something like that. I bet lots of people
would join this program... and smaller credit things, like a small increase in disk space, or an
extra MySQL database or another subdomain... Something of that sort. Just a suggestion, and
i'm pretty sure somebody else has probably already posted something to this effect. Just wanted
to see if any moderators or higher level staff here would be interested in this kind of....
Hi. LAtely, with all my c/w I've been doing, I've forgot to keep an eye on my
credits. Came on just now and they were at 0.33 days. I just had an idea. Could you have some kind
of auto-email if they get dangerously low. You know, not to high we're always bugged by them but
let's say, 2 days. Most people always check their e-mails when they log on so this way, everyone
will remeber. Just and idea. Thanks. ....
I sugesst to show how many credits member has in his info lat's say bottom of my photo. When you
have slow and bad intrnet it takesa lot of time to click http://www.trap17.com/forums/forums.html
andwait while forum will be refreshed....
I suggest that you make it possible for people to buy credits. The credits should be cheaper than
actual paid hosting. I think this is a good idea becuase users can post their way to getting 10
credits, but to keep their hosting they can buy, say, 100 credits. Then 100 days later they can buy
another 100. I think this will really lead to the success of this forum. Hope I helped.....
im suggesting that there should be a limit that your credits can go into the negatives. a while ago
i was really busy with school, sports, and everyday stuff. during this time, i did not have much
time to get online and i stopped going to this site for awhile. now i am back and want to get my
site back up so i can try some things. the thing is, my credits are way below zero. currently im at
-31 hosting credits. and you need 5 credits to get your site back up (i think its 5, not sure). i
was thinking that it might be an okay idea if you put a limit to how far your credits....
hi friends, I just got a suggestion to make. Admins, just see whether it would help? Since there
are some topics which are made just for the sake of it and not of high interest. What I suggest is
that the topic starter can be given additional credits if he/she starts a topic which if of interest
to more members. This can be judged from the number of replies that are generated or by the number
of topic views. It can be set that for every 10 replies the topic owner gets certain credit points.
or may be for every 20/50 views that the topic generates, the member can be aw....
I never logout of my account and so everytime i go to the site i have to make sure that i'm on
the right page to see how many credits i have. Wish it would show up when i clicked on the assitant
list. would sure make my life tons easier. round ....
Hi Everyone. I have a suggestion which quite possibly have been suggested before. My suggestion is
to have an e-mail reminder sent out to users who's hosting credits are below, lets say, 4
points. that way, users who can not return to the forums frequently could still be aware of their
credit status and avoid account suspension, it will also help bring back members to the forums to
post. Another option, which sounds best to me but might be harder to acheive, is to create a small
application that sits in your task bar and displays your current hosting credits, each....
Ok My idea is to make quizs and if you pass it you get 10-20 cridets depeding on your score. I
really think this would work because i like it on other sites and it's easyer for members to
make cridets at a fast pace but have to know things lol. I would also like to hear what other
members say about this idea i think it's good but you guys may or may not i don't know lol
only time well tell. X-killer....
My name is Darker333 and this is my first Suggestion post! Well, if you want to ENSURE
activity, then my suggestion is to really set up a meter that says how many credits you need to
avoid a certain day period before your account expires. Now, let's look at this: Current after
Package 2: 21.6 Credits -.something per day. To keep your account alive, you need to stay away
from the 0 by posting and when you post a lot of a long time the counter will stop going down,
depending on Admins approval. When the counter reaches 0.. BAM, you will get a 3-5 day notice sa....
Since everyone is worrying about their credits and about being away for more days than the credits
they have, i suggest having a mod where a member could donate some of his/her credit to another
member. sort of Cash Mod. The donor could ask in return some favors, like doing some scripts for
him, an animated graphics perhaps, and even reputations. what do you think about that?....
Hi: I want a question, why yesterdy i have 11.96 credits and today have 2? also i want say
the hard this is for me, i not speak very well english and each message i have transalte to spanish,
answer the question and traslate to english again, for this, each message require many time, y
really tired of this, you host its very good but i cant go more whit this. Thaks for everything.
Regards Santiago Argilla www.sargilla.com.ar....
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lol and ive posted allot of the things that i know and i find that it is getting more and more difficult to get new ideals for like tutorials, or even general talk..i still think that the movie review section *see previous suggestion on this forum* would be a good thing to have on here to help get credits etc....
(well, I've already read Anwiii's post thrice and I am really impressed with the post, great going Anwiii)
