Read Latest Entries..: (Post #60) by Kioku on Oct 12 2006, 04:50 PM. (Line Breaks Removed)
So far, all arguments against the war haven't even acknowledged that Iraq was a pretty big shitfest even before we went in there. I guess if you support execution-style shootings of Kurdish women and children and mustard gassing, suit yourself, pal.As for the shock value pictures, people die in wars. "Arab world"? Congratulations on making a racist assumption. You're no better th... read more.
So, we killed Al-Zarqawi in an air-strike late last night. He was the leader of what we called "Al-Qaeda" in Iraq. This was the dude that beheaded Nick Berg a couple years ago... he was a man of terror.
Bush said "this violent man will never murder again". I really hope that he was talking about himself. Aren't we done killing arab people? Bush also said "the fighting and killing will continue" (paraphrased), meaning that we're not done in Iraq.
Did we find the WMD yet? Did we get rid of Saddam? Did we spread democracy? Did we get Saddam's sons? ...what other fake reasons did we have?
I think that we're done! Yay! We can start bring our troops back home!
Bush, I am writing this paragraph directly to you and / or your administration: Please don't up with another "Al Qaeda - leader" or another reason to keep killing. Isn't this it? Isn't the mission accomplished yet?! You will be impeached - the only way you could avoid this now would be to declare martial law in our country. Ha! "Shock and Awe" is TERRORISM; do you think that nobody was terrified in Iraq that day?.
BTW, get the USA Today issue for today (June 8th, 2006) - look on page 2 for the Impeach Bush ad.
I'm not American but I hear what you're saying. I also sympathize with all the troops who are in Iraq fighting a war that, well let's just say... yeah.
In my opinion, Bush is a nimrod. I feel the same way about those who re-elected him but I guess I'll spare the pro-republicans from any further bashing. This whole fear-mongering, terrorism business is too overplayed. Yes, it did have a lot of shock value (and a lot of tragedies to reinforce it) but really...
So, we killed Al-Zarqawi in an air-strike late last night. He was the leader of what we called "Al-Qaeda" in Iraq. This was the dude that beheaded Nick Berg a couple years ago... he was a man of terror.
Bush said "this violent man will never murder again". I really hope that he was talking about himself. Aren't we done killing arab people? Bush also said "the fighting and killing will continue" (paraphrased), meaning that we're not done in Iraq.
Did we find the WMD yet? Did we get rid of Saddam? Did we spread democracy? Did we get Saddam's sons? ...what other fake reasons did we have?
I think that we're done! Yay! We can start bring our troops back home!
Bush, I am writing this paragraph directly to you and / or your administration: Please don't up with another "Al Qaeda - leader" or another reason to keep killing. Isn't this it? Isn't the mission accomplished yet?! You will be impeached - the only way you could avoid this now would be to declare martial law in our country. Ha! "Shock and Awe" is TERRORISM; do you think that nobody was terrified in Iraq that day?.
BTW, get the USA Today issue for today (June 8th, 2006) - look on page 2 for the Impeach Bush ad.
You my friend have obviously not talked to one iraqi civilian. I've been there and i am headed on my second tour of duty. I've been thanked by countless of iraqi civilians for what we are doing there. They want freedom. The ones who dont are the ones who were being treated very well by Sadam. I think you hear only what you want to hear and make judgments that aren't based on fact. Until you talk to more then your neighbor to find out how they feel please dont say. Talk to someone who had his family murdered by Sadam. Talk to more then one Iraqi civilian still living in the country today. And thy will tell you they are not ready for us to leave. We are no where near ready to bring our troops home. If we were to pull out now the Iranian special forces that are there blowing up car bombs and killing women, children and other civilians by the hundreds will help overthrow the new regime and we will be back to square one.
Where was your comments when they pulled off the ARAB children from the bus and seperated them from suni and shite and killed one tribe but let the other live. It seems that your ok with that? Countless innocent people are murdered by Zarqawi 95% Arabs and you dont seem to care.
To answer your questions:
1. WMD - faulty intel, probably moved before the war 2. Did we get rid of Sadam - He is in an iraqi prison correct??? So yes. 3. Did we spread democracy - They are free now...doing things they couldn't do with Sadam. 4. Yes we killed the cowards at the start
You left this one out.
5. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave? No. Iran is butting in with their special forces. How do i know? I killed 2 of them. One as he was using a 5 year old girl as a shield. Real brave guy. But thats ok by you.
i'm willing to bet that Bush and the US has killed less Arabs then Arabs have killed eachother. no i'm not a republican either. I'm an independent.
If we left things in your hands nothing would have been done about 9-11. If you ask me we need to move to Africa next and help the people there that are being murdered by the thousands daily for being in a different tribe.
Bush will never be impeached. Because sane people know that what was done needed to be done. I dont care if it was under the 9-11 umbrella it still needed to be done. The news (who hate bush) dont care about the fact that arabs are killing arabs. They dont go on and on about how children were pulled off a school bus and murdered. They dont go on and on about zarqawi killing arabs....because it doesnt work for their agenda. Get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it.
Why are we still there? What is the reason now? There just isn't a good reason anymore! Bring our armed forces back home. Impeach the bumbling idiot cheerleader Bush!
Anybody from this administration talks anymore and all I hear is "We know where the WMD are ... blah blah blah ... 9/11 ... blah blah ... You're Safer ... blah ... Gay Marriage ... Saddam Al Qaeda ... Illegal Immigrants ... amen! (get this "God" crap out of our government! - If there is a God, why in the world did he put OUR oil under the Arab's soil???)
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You my friend have obviously not talked to one iraqi civilian. I've been there and i am headed on my second tour of duty. I've been thanked by countless of iraqi civilians for what we are doing there. They want freedom. The ones who dont are the ones who were being treated very well by Sadam. I think you hear only what you want to hear and make judgments that aren't based on fact. Until you talk to more then your neighbor to find out how they feel please dont say. Talk to someone who had his family murdered by Sadam. Talk to more then one Iraqi civilian still living in the country today. And thy will tell you they are not ready for us to leave. We are no where near ready to bring our troops home. If we were to pull out now the Iranian special forces that are there blowing up car bombs and killing women, children and other civilians by the hundreds will help overthrow the new regime and we will be back to square one.
You don't know that I was roommates with an ex-Iraqi citizen in college. Hmmph. Anyway, the bad FAR outweighs any good that you can possibly get out of this. This is President Nimrod's (a.k.a. Bush's) war. My point is that he didn't have a reason for going to war (we know this now, are you still beating the "9/11" drum??? Iraq didn't have ANYTHING to do with the 9/11 attacks - as was determined by many investigations primarly the "9/11 Commission". You, my friend - are in the wrong. This is NOT how you spread peace and democracy - that's a fact jack.
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You left this one out.
5. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave? No. Iran is butting in with their special forces. How do i know? I killed 2 of them. One as he was using a 5 year old girl as a shield. Real brave guy. But thats ok by you.
i'm willing to bet that Bush and the US has killed less Arabs then Arabs have killed eachother. no i'm not a republican either. I'm an independent.
If we left things in your hands nothing would have been done about 9-11. If you ask me we need to move to Africa next and help the people there that are being murdered by the thousands daily for being in a different tribe.
Bush will never be impeached. Because sane people know that what was done needed to be done. I dont care if it was under the 9-11 umbrella it still needed to be done. The news (who hate bush) dont care about the fact that arabs are killing arabs. They dont go on and on about how children were pulled off a school bus and murdered. They dont go on and on about zarqawi killing arabs....because it doesnt work for their agenda. Get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it.
Yep, there's the "9/11" drum again. Don't you call me insane, I am the rational one who looks at FACTS, not trying to justify decisions based on BAD INTELLIGENCE. I have been studying international history as a hobby for decades... yet you say "get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it"; I think that you don't want to hear opposition because your case just looks worse as people like me start to speak out. You are like the administration in that sense, you only want ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. Look at facts dude, there is no connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq before we created it. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave?! The place is only a mess today because we stirred things up, like a stupid hick with a stick poking a hive full of jive!
I believe that if we left, things will be better far before they could if we stayed... If we stay, more Al-Zarqawi will be created (or, so they would have us believe)...
I am going out on a limb here -- Bush will be impeached more severely than anybody in history (Coulter's - head will spin, it will be that bad for the administration). I have been brave enough to go out on a limb before 2004 and buy a hybrid car because I knew that gas prices would be tripling in the next 5 years.... I was right back then, and I feel that I am right now.
Yeah.. we have enough troubles back home, we need to stop sending people overseas to combat things over there. I can think of a billion things more important for our country to focus on than lingering in Iraq.. we need to leave these poor people alone ^^;
Here's some interesting statistics I heard on CNN this morning when they were interviewing Nick Berg's father: 3,000 people died a year when Hussein was in power while 60,000 people a year die while Bush occupies the country. Hussien preserved order in the country while it is utter chaos in Iraq now with Bush occupying it. Terrorists were never a problem with Hussien in power, but with Bush terrorist organiztions, militias, and saddam's former soliders ravage the country now not to mention the few mad U.S. troops massacre Iraqi civilians. Who's the real enemy?
I think that Congress definitaly needs to set a total withdrawal date for U.S. Operations in Iraq. A complete pullout right now would be stupid, but lets start withdrawing.
My personal opinion however is that Iraq will soon become a U.S. territory.
a few things to thinkg about "did saddam have wmd that we just can't find now?" "if we didn't step in and do something would saddam have done some crazier stuff and killed more people?" "if it wasn't half way across the world would you care more?"
I'm not an american, but my country has troops in Iraq, so it spends money and my people are at risk. We only had one death in Iraq and 2 in Afganistan. It's not much, but they died in a war that is not ours... and more it is Bush's war for oil and power. I'm sure that even if they kill Bil Laden they will not retreat from Iraq. Because they can always "fake" a terrorist attack, a bomb, some victims and the war has a purpouse again. Someone else to hate again. Someone else to hunt for againIt is my opinion that (if it wasn't the Bush administration that did it) at least the Bush administration is a complice in 9-11 attacks. Just another Pearl Harbor... But this time it isn't for a noble cause. And besides if the americans retreat before the whole oil reserve is depleted they will look weak and they will look like they were defeated. It would be like Vietnam all over again... And if they will look weak there are lots of enemies that would chalange their position as world leaders.
Actually i was watching Conan O Brian when that SPECIAL UPDATE came on. I honestly turned off the TV after watching a few minutes of it and went to bed. I am just so angry with our president and leaders right now. I honestly want to start getting into politics to make America better ever since George Bush was president. My best friend said to me exactly," Whats so bad with George Bush. The media says how bad he is and never says why." I litteraly just was thinking what do i say. He is SO LOST. Has he NEVER seen the news before. Does he even know we are at war fighting "terror" that was never there and got invisible bombs that they lied about. No wait maybe it was "screw the UN" attitude when America wanted to go to war with Iraq and the UN said no. No i know! It was the 29% approval rating. I honestly CAN NOT WAIT till he is out of there. He has killed ENOUGH of OUR people. So I say F U Bush. We want our America back.
Did you know we have never invaded a country before when they have NEVER done anything to us first. Thank god for George Bush to do it for a completly UNJUST reason.
So far, all arguments against the war haven't even acknowledged that Iraq was a pretty big shitfest even before we went in there. I guess if you support execution-style shootings of Kurdish women and children and mustard gassing, suit yourself, pal.
As for the shock value pictures, people die in wars. "Arab world"? Congratulations on making a racist assumption. You're no better than one of the people you hate most, Bush. They're not from Saudi Arabia. "Muslim" should suffice.
Either way, I'm glad Saddam's out.
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Is it? Is cool, awesome, or funny? Two dead children? What if they were your children?
Yeah, it is funny. It's not your child, either. It's funny that you assume there aren't innocent deaths in any war. The terrorists coming in from Iran and Syria to blow themselves up in the streets are doing most of the killing. You should at least mention that. You should also stop flip-flopping and stay on point. Pulling out now when they're unable to stand up would just allow more terrorist attacks. We're there to help and protect them. You can't have it both ways. Nearly the same thing happened after WWII. We knocked the previous government out of control in Japan and helped them rebuild. The same goes here, but this time Saddam was knocked out of office. We need to help Iraq rebuild after we ruined their government.
OK first off you can't just stop going to work when your in the army. When they say you are done you can also get called back in. Make sure to know your facts. The only way to quit after signing up is getting injured where you can no longer fight.
Next why should we let them fight for America? You don't let gangs fight on the streets here and kill people. Why is it OK if we are in another country with camo on? It isn't. The only difference is the president said to. If the president told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? A big portion of America would just because he is our leader. Well *BLEEP* our leader. He is thee worst president we have ever had. Clinton got a bad wrap, but all he did was get oral. It's so aggravating and frustrating when people don't see this.
Finally. America pays back EVERYONE not only the people who "screw" with us, but people like Iraq who did nothing, but really flip off America. Yes, the leader of Iraq was evil and a horrible person, but do we really have to go and kill all those inocent people? Tell me is this really cool?
Is it? Is cool, awesome, or funny? Two dead children? What if they were your children? The people that say, well it's war, are the people i hate. You are the people who follow anyone. The people who never question anything. You go along in life just seeing the world as you were brought up. Step out side the box and just look at how many people are dead. There was NO reason to go over. Their was NO WMD, they did NOT have the terroists, and lastly they had never attacked us. If they do not attack us why should we go over there and start a god damn war?
Sorry if i get a little emotional, but i just can't see how you people think it's alright. I'm sorry. I would REALLY like the mods and admins to not take that picture off. It's not too bloody and nothing to gruesom. I think it would be good to keep it up and at least make my point of view stronger.
If you agree with me then i salutue you. You are a TRUE patriot. Patriots don't go out and kill innocent people. They are the ones that are supposed to bring PEACE and FREEDOM not DEATH and MURDER.
I agree that this picture should stay up. Please do not remove this image and assist in the censorship that we are subject to daily. We should already declare that this is a closed case - in light of the last picture especially. Thank you very much for making the point that we are looking like the overall bad guy here. Nobody can justify these killings to me.
If you disagree with what we are saying here, you simply don't want peace. That's the conclusion I have to make. Especially, no christian on the face of this earth should agree that the path to winning this war is through killing; we'd have to kill virtually all Arabs and then kill all who sympathize with Arab complaints - and then we'd probably have to quell the rest of the earth as they voice their dissent.
Tell your Senator that you think that we should leave the Arab world - tell the Arabs that our bullets and tanks will no longer threaten their holy lands, and they will have to adhere to their holy words that you should only fight the infidel as long as he is in your land.
obviously the people fighting this war right now, do not want to stop because if they wanted to, they couldq uite the military and stay home and not get shiped out the next time or ever again, but they keep going back, they keep going back and fighting. so i say, if they want to keep going back and fighting, let them fight for america and make sure the rest of the god damned terrorists in the world know if you screw with america you will pay immensley!!
OK first off you can't just stop going to work when your in the army. When they say you are done you can also get called back in. Make sure to know your facts. The only way to quit after signing up is getting injured where you can no longer fight.
Next why should we let them fight for America? You don't let gangs fight on the streets here and kill people. Why is it OK if we are in another country with camo on? It isn't. The only difference is the president said to. If the president told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? A big portion of America would just because he is our leader. Well *BLEEP* our leader. He is thee worst president we have ever had. Clinton got a bad wrap, but all he did was get oral. It's so aggravating and frustrating when people don't see this.
Finally. America pays back EVERYONE not only the people who "screw" with us, but people like Iraq who did nothing, but really flip off America. Yes, the leader of Iraq was evil and a horrible person, but do we really have to go and kill all those inocent people? Tell me is this really cool?
Is it? Is cool, awesome, or funny? Two dead children? What if they were your children? The people that say, well it's war, are the people i hate. You are the people who follow anyone. The people who never question anything. You go along in life just seeing the world as you were brought up. Step out side the box and just look at how many people are dead. There was NO reason to go over. Their was NO WMD, they did NOT have the terroists, and lastly they had never attacked us. If they do not attack us why should we go over there and start a god damn war?
Sorry if i get a little emotional, but i just can't see how you people think it's alright. I'm sorry. I would REALLY like the mods and admins to not take that picture off. It's not too bloody and nothing to gruesom. I think it would be good to keep it up and at least make my point of view stronger.
If you agree with me then i salutue you. You are a TRUE patriot. Patriots don't go out and kill innocent people. They are the ones that are supposed to bring PEACE and FREEDOM not DEATH and MURDER.
why you are responsible to act on behalf of Israel?
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Quote tags are fun, alright. I can arrange quotes, so you're answering your own questions. Thanks.
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There are international rules to not get rid from a regime just because you have problem with it. Why US didn't acted against Castro of Cuba for 50 years ?. Why US didn't Git red of Stallin, Khorochov or Breginev of Soviet Union. Why they didn't get rid of Mao of China and North Korea Regime?.
You don't know what Nuclear weapons are? Man.
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Is that"what you view things " is your sixth commonsense" You want people are dying that historian said that was to help economy.. The commonsense says that you are loosing materials, resources for unproven hypothetical economic benefit.
Alex Trebek: I was what solved the "Great Depression".
Me: What is "World war II"?
Alex Trebek: Correct. That is our Daily Double.
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Certainly, boosting the economy doesn't justify killing.
Certainly not if you're a pansy. We're defending our country and boosting our economy.
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Also, according to the Bible, killing is a sin, eh.
NOT THE RELIGION CARD. OH MAN, I JUST GOT SERVED.
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I am guessing that you are an idiot - about 22 years old, and you're still a virgin.
Stock insults from the Holy Roller? *BLEEP*! I won't live that down. Yeah. Anyone who knows that when the war machine gets rolling, money starts rolling in must have never had sex? Nice logic, dipshit. People die. Life's just a series of chemical reations. Chemical reactions stopping for money? I'm all for it.
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It is an educated guess of mine that you are NOT of japanese descent.
What brought up Japan? I got my name from a Tetris song for a Russia gimmick. Mainly to parody Donglish, which nobody will get, chances are.
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You cry because you learn that a majority of people believe that the war in Iraq is bad.... it is just terribly sad that the majority wasn't before we attacked!
Uh, what? How is being all for something crying? Unless if I'm mistaken, you're the one bleeding out of your womanly parts about some lives of scum bag terrorists being lost.
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You certainly heard the argument that this war is creating new terrorists (that hate America).
Good for them? If they blow themselves up, less terrorists. Hahaha.
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You should try to focus on peace.
"HAY TERRORISTS LOL LETS HAVE PEACE LOL" will solve everything? This isn't a *BLEEP*ing Disney movie. Insert quarter and try again. Just like all religious shitbags, they're willing to die for their cause. They can't be reasoned with. The only way to stop them is by force.
In short, man up. Stop fellating your political parties and even relying on them for opinions. I support the war and our troops. Let's go bomb Iran for round 2.
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.... I'm using common sense instead of blindly allowing a political party make opinions for me. My opinion?
.Let we analysis your to see how you are using commonsense. But before I start, I stress that my opinion doesn't mean I support Terrorism nor I like Saddam. I am Christian Copts not Muslim Arab.
1. You said:
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
My opinion?"Terrorism" is a problem. Yeah, yeah. Did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11? No. ?
In fact the war on terror has created more terrorism. Iraq and Al-Qaueda were at odd. Now the terrorism were recruited and came to Iraq by hundreds. Don't say that Al-Zarquwi was living in Iraq in Saddam's time. Living in country or passing or transit THROUGH COUNTRY Doesn't mean terrorism welcomed in that Country. Take example who did 11/9 events were lived and trained in US. Is this your first commonsense?
2. You said::
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
Was Saddam paying people to walk into Israel and blow themselves up?
What is the prove for that? This is the same as the claim of WMD. Even if it is true, why you are responsible to act on behalf of Israel?
3. You said::
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
Yeah. Did Saddam have WMDs? Yeah, but old ones from the Iran War. Most of the others he had are most likely in Syria. Case in point;
What you want to say about Iranian war? Do you know that America and West were blessing that war and providing the weapons to it?
The commonsense said that Saddam and Syria were at odd. So it can not transfer these WMD without prevailing that move. The matter can not determined by thought or :Likely". If CIA and other official haven't claimed that because will be another unproven facts.
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QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
Saddam was a problem. We had to get rid of him. ..
There are international rules to not get rid from a regime just because you have problem with it. Why US didn't acted against Castro of Cuba for 50 years ?. Why US didn't Git red of Stallin, Khorochov or Breginev of Soviet Union. Why they didn't get rid of Mao of China and North Korea Regime?. Are you happy with Saudi rulers where no right of another religion but their branch of Islam and women can not licensed to drive.
5. You said:
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
...Is blowing yourself up smart? *BLEEP* no. Anyone with common sense can gather up that's ending your ability to percieve reality. Your life ends. Nice going, dipshit. What did you prove? Nothing? Alright. That's right. You're dead, I'm not. America wins, *BLEEP*. Blow yourselves up more.
You speak about commonsense and forget that those who blow themselves is not killing themselves only but killing hiundred other. Who blow the planes in the Trade center have killed thousand of lives. In Iraq these blows are killing Iraqis and US and British and other soldiers.
6. You said about terrorists acts: :
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
..In fact, I encourage it. Perhaps if all of the extremists did it at once, the world would be a nicer place. That includes you far-right and far-left people, along with Al Queada. Hop to it if it sounds like that good of an idea.
The commonsense doesn't do with "Hope" and dream and "perhaps". extremists will not end with your "hope", dream and "perhaps"
7. You said about war: :
QUOTE(Kioku @ Sep 18 2006, 09:47 PM)
..War kicks *arse*. It helps our economy. When the war machines get rolling, the dollar bills go along with it. If I had to worry about everyone who died, I'd be a real pansy. That's how I view things, at least.
Is that"what you view things " is your sixth commonsense" You want people are dying that historian said that was to help economy.. The commonsense says that you are loosing materials, resources for unproven hypothetical economic benefit.
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..If you don't like my opinions, too bad.
Is this also commonsense that anybody have to agree with your view.
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