truefusion
May 14 2007, 02:46 PM
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Microsoft claims that Linux, the free operating system, is violating over 200 of their patents. This is the silliest thing. If Microsoft wins, Linux may no longer exist. Open-source software as we know it will no longer exist. This is the silliest thing i have ever seen Microsoft try to do—i can't stress this enough. I believe in open-source. Some people, even though there may be an open-source alternative, will still choose to buy commercial software, so there shouldn't be a problem. As far as i'm concerned, Microsoft is just money hungry. I, for one, don't see Windows winning this; there are many open-source supporters out there that i'm sure will support Linux. Microsoft is already a huge company, but i guess the rich just wanna get richer... |
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midnightvamp
May 14 2007, 02:56 PM
That's a bit ridiculous... It's open source, so it really wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft grabbed the code and used some of it on their own products and then 'patented' it, calling it their own. It's already basically a monopoly out there with that company, and what does the world's richest (or still very close to it!) man really need by trying to get even more money hungry by getting rid of the open source world. Yes, it seems that once again, the rich get richer and the people out there just trying to do something real without trying to dip into everyone's pockets will get in trouble for it. I hope that the case gets thrown out before it even goes through any court proceedings. Yes, I run Microsoft on my own machines... but I've run Linux too and I support the idea of open source. At least it offers the option for people to pick something other than Microsoft. Yes, lets take away the freedom of choice. Great idea. Thanks Microsoft.
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Saint_Michael
May 14 2007, 03:11 PM
Man that is huge news and to think I was goign to try my hand into partition and install a version of linux on a computer I guess I have to wait. But what really got this really going was these two paragraphs: QUOTE
As with the Internet, though, Microsoft came late to the party, then crashed it with a vengeance. In 2002, the year Smith became general counsel, the company applied for 1,411 patents. By 2004 it had more than doubled that number, submitting 3,780.
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But he does break down the total number allegedly violated - 235 - into categories. He says that the Linux kernel - the deepest layer of the free operating system, which interacts most directly with the computer hardware - violates 42 Microsoft patents. The Linux graphical user interfaces - essentially, the way design elements like menus and toolbars are set up - run afoul of another 65, he claims. The Open Office suite of programs, which is analogous to Microsoft Office, infringes 45 more. E-mail programs infringe 15, while other assorted FOSS programs allegedly transgress 68.
But the Big question is if it happens, how many companies and people will get bankrupt out of this and how would that affect our economy as well? Since many web hosting companies use both windows and apache for it's primary servers. OF course it's bad enough Microsoft is like the the number 1 tech business and it's founder the richest person in the world, they want control of all the software thats out there as well and knowing Microsoft they are going to go way back in the 1990's when linux first came out and nail everyone and that could be in the billions if this does go through. Of course this huge case could take years or even decades as they go through everyone of those patent and see if Microsoft holds those tights, but Microsoft could be pulling a scare tatic and make everyone settle out of court and thus closing small companies down and what not. This should be a very interestin case and the whole tech world will be watching this as it unfolds.
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sylenzednuke
May 14 2007, 03:13 PM
This is the stupidest thing I've heard in all day long. And I even agree with midnightvamp, I run Microsoft on this PC, but the thing is I'm just too lazy to install Ubuntu, I own the DVD!  I don't think there is any chance of Microsoft winning this!
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reelkill
May 14 2007, 07:54 PM
I doubt microsoft will win but even if they do I doubt it will end open source software. I hope not anyway imagine if they did win and then said everyone was using their patent when they used a programming language aaah I doubt it though,and I wanted to put Linux on my old computer too,I never used it though,I am going to check it out,I'm sure even if microsoft would win people could still use the source code to change and update Linux and I doubt it would ever become impossible to get.
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Renaissance
May 14 2007, 08:27 PM
Didn't they pull this type of stunt before? I might be thinking of another "battle" but I could have sworn that Microsoft already made this claim; perhaps they took this long to "acquire their evidence".
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t3jem
May 14 2007, 10:57 PM
Microsoft will lose. There is no way that they can uphold 235 copywright infringments on an opensource project. I believe in copywright programs, but algorithms/function cannot be copywrighted because they can be rewritten; however, it would be very hard to accuratly rewrite a game/operating system. I use microsoft machines, but only because I'm too lazy to find a free linux that smoothly runs windows applications/games. I full heartedly support linux and my view has now been lowered even more by this low move by microsoft.
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ghostrider
May 14 2007, 11:17 PM
This is a very sad thing to hear, but I doubt Microsoft will win. Even if they do win, there's programmers like me that will just develop something in better  . One of my goals for myself is to have a working operating system before the end of high school, that is written from scratch. I too use Windows, but I have Linux on a livecd. Knoppix rules. I find that its better for web development, because it has KWrite, which is the best text editor ever.
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matak
May 15 2007, 02:01 AM
Microsoft. Ah, a giant dieing. This is one of it's last breaths, and it shows the true face of MS. Stupidity. Also i belive that all of their patents are lousy, and can be done better. This suit needs to determine a lot of stuff, and it's a hard job on judges. I belive that their gonna need to listen to lot's off ppl opinions and decide what is the best for the internet community. Why internet? Microsoft not while ago stated that they want to buy Yahoo. Yahoo has some shares in Google, and i also belive that MS is gonna reach for 51% shares of google by sleaziest ways possible. This suit is probably just an distraction of community while they try to buy Google shares one by one until they reach more than 50% and if that happens, it really wouldn't matter wheater open source egzists or not. A Corporation like Microsoft owning Google would throw such a stink on whole internet population. If that ever happens, like ghostrider said, i want to be in a possition to own my OS. To even have the access to main sites on the internet that haven't been touched by MS, and just to work all my life on convincing ppl why that Corporation needs to wanish from this planet. From this new growing population on Internet. MS sucks. I must say that i like Vista. But i hate their politics. They just kill the inner kid in people, making you belive that without them you are nothing. If this suit passes and MS wins, i'm gonna Lol a lot. I'm gonna lol few days, and then, get back to my regular duties. MS SUCKS! IF YOU READ THIS MS YOU SUCK!!!!
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TripleH13
May 15 2007, 03:33 AM
I really don't think Microsoft will win this one. I can think they are just trying to scare people, making them think they are doing something wrong so linux will stop. But this really shows that Microsoft knows that linux will eventually be a threat to them in the future.
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dre
Aug 12 2007, 10:01 PM
Maybe I'll just go back to MS-DOS 
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shadowlusterx
Aug 11 2007, 01:15 PM
But that still doesn't seem that smart to me. Maybe this had an effect on their stock dropping. I think that this is going to be a big hit on their popularity. "The rich get richer." but "Those that are the highest have the biggest fall". They would probably go down eventually, but I was hoping Linux would be the next one. Oh well.
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Dungeon Master
Aug 11 2007, 12:42 AM
QUOTE(truefusion @ May 14 2007, 02:46 PM)  SourceMicrosoft claims that Linux, the free operating system, is violating over 200 of their patents. This is the silliest thing. If Microsoft wins, Linux may no longer exist. Open-source software as we know it will no longer exist. This is the silliest thing i have ever seen Microsoft try to do—i can't stress this enough. I believe in open-source. Some people, even though there may be an open-source alternative, will still choose to buy commercial software, so there shouldn't be a problem. As far as i'm concerned, Microsoft is just money hungry. I, for one, don't see Windows winning this; there are many open-source supporters out there that i'm sure will support Linux. Microsoft is already a huge company, but i guess the rich just wanna get richer... Yup the rich get richer. But you just gotta keep in mind that Microsoft is a monopoly. What does a monopoly tries to do? Have control over the market. If they get Linux out of the way, the consumer wouldnt have any other choice but Mac or Microsoft. We all know what the obvious choice is. Microsoft is sort of like the Borg they want to assimilate everyone into their ways.
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eviljoints
Aug 11 2007, 12:37 AM
no microsoft are going bloody mad the silly people they are trying to take over everything its making no sense everything will change if they win and computers all around the word will just get buggered is there no poll we can vote on to help linux?
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kuberan_swe
Aug 10 2007, 08:04 PM
Thats the most stupid thing that can happen to the world of software and software developers. linux is the most powerful and better OS than Windows and Micrsoft cannot do such silly things to make their product sell. Then can improve their product quality instead.
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