RGPHNX
May 18 2005, 10:13 PM
Hi all, Nobody has reported on this so.. thought I'd open it for a forum opinion poll. As reported in a recent CNET.com article.. QUOTE Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows
Published: April 26, 2005, 4:00 AM PDT
By Ina Fried
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
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SEATTLE--In a move that could rankle privacy advocates, Microsoft said Monday that it is adding the PC equivalent of a flight data recorder to the next version of Windows, in an effort to better understand and prevent computer crashes.
The tool will build on the existing Watson error-reporting tool in Windows but will provide Microsoft with much deeper information, including what programs were running at the time of the error and even the contents of documents that were being created. Businesses will also choose whether they want their own technology managers to receive such data when an employee's machine crashes.
"Think of it as a flight data recorder, so that any time there's a problem, that 'black box' is there helping us work together and diagnose what's going on," Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates said during a speech at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here.............. . You can read the entire article here.. Longhorn Spyware detailsWhat this means ..According to the article.. is.. If Windows Longhorn crashes while you are using ANY program.. the ENTIRE contents (ie a EXACT copy) of what you were working on will go to Misco$oft when you click on the "Report the problem" popup screen. That means MicroSoft will get a EXACT COPY of your.. -email -IM -IRC -Word document(s) -XL document(s) -Powerpoint document(s) -password information, including banking & credit card information. -ANY OTHER program documents your working on -the names, serial numbers, registration numbers of ANY PROGRAM installed on your computer. Basically, Micro$oft will get a copy of anything it wants from your computer... as long as you have the program open at the time that Window$ crashes.... AND they won't even notify you of what info they have taken. So.. the poll question is.. Do you trust Micro$oft with your confidential information ??
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BuffaloHELP
May 18 2005, 10:24 PM
This is true. Actually Windows XP does that now. But it’s minus the all the actual data but it records what was running at the time of the crash. However, according to an inside source, Microsoft has to pay hundreds of hours of man power to sit there and sniff through the error record to find maybe one faulty line error. Therefore, as a personal PC data record, and unless you want to pay extra for Microsoft to figure out only your problem, Microsoft would never look at an error data coming from a personal computer. Microsoft will, however, look at the data error from DuPont, IBM, banks and other establishments that is willing to fork over millions of dollars to unpack the error data and recompile it line by line to see what went on. It is scary that this error data dump is getting smarter and smarter that it can flash-backup the state of your PC. Think about the bandwidth it’ll eat up while uploading…HA~!
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midnightvamp
May 18 2005, 10:48 PM
This is all way too creepy. It's like I'm being spied on and I don't even know about it. I had no idea what is going on in these computers and the more I hear, the less I like, not that I can do anything about it. I know too that since I had to rent this computer off the college, when they get it back, they'll probably know every little thing I've done on this computer. I haven't done anything illegal, so that wouldn't be a problem, but just knowing that someone else could go through my personal files (even if I delete them) is kind of scary. Whatever, the marvels of technology...
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snlildude87
May 19 2005, 12:47 AM
Bah! I've known about this for a while now. However, I don't think you can really prevent your computer from being spied on if you plan to buy a computer after 2006 because, like Windows XP, I think that Windows Longhorn will be installed on all new computers. The only effective way to prevent Microsoft, spywares, adwares, or viruses from entering your computer is abstinence. That is, don't connect to the internet, and never let any computer stick their dirty little CDs and floppies into your computer. And even if you get a virus, you can easily get rid of it with all the good antivirus programs out there. *cough* NOT Norton *cough*
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midnightvamp
May 19 2005, 12:53 AM
Yea... this is true. I'm sure eventually everything will be monitored just like you see in the movies. Not exactly a good thing, but I suppose you just learn to live with it or hide out in the woods for the rest of your life. I actually planned to do this as a child. I had it all planned out... build myself a little house... live of the land... not that I'd ever be able to do that. Especially now that I have the internet. I love technology more than my privacy. How sad is that? That said... what is wrong with Norton? I'm just curious, it's not like I use it anyway... but perhaps I should know why I shouldn't choose it in the future?
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icemarle
May 19 2005, 05:06 AM
Honestly, I wouldn't exactly call that spyware... but an operating system that spies on you when your computer has a problem. It's virtually impossible to avoid problems... Isn't there supposed to be an option not to send info? But if it works very similar to a black box... That means it records everything?
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moldboy
May 19 2005, 05:22 AM
QUOTE That means it records everything? Well technicacly speaking everything is recorded already, and there is nothing you can do about it! That's how the computer works, Linux, Windows, Mac, you name it everything you type/ run is recorded, it needs to be how else do you expect the info to get from your KB to the program? As far as the send error, I don't honestly think that's a good Idea, if I were a bank manager (or any other person of great authority) I wouldn't be allowing this feature in my office as I would fear the private personal info of my customers that might be open. And as such sent to Micrsoft. Yeah I trust them with my info, But that doesn't mean I want all my open information sent to microsoft, say you were being investigaed by CSIS (canadian equivlant of FBI) and they felt that you were hiding something that might have apeened durring a crash, a warrant of that information from microsft might be granted, and then it doesn't matter how much I trust micrsoft 
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guangdian
May 19 2005, 09:39 AM
oh.... i think we need Giant anti spyware for it.. but Gint anti is soft of microsoft then they kill themselves.haha:)_
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coolkarthik007
May 19 2005, 01:29 PM
well i always knew that. i think win95 is the best windows ever. no spying nothing longhorn promises a lot but takes a lot too i think it steals source code rather
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wariorpk
May 19 2005, 07:00 PM
Ok this is Bad! I personally think that there should be an option to turn this off or Microsoft scrap it completely or I'm switching to MAC since its better anyways. Ok thats what I think most people would agree I think.
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JimiHex
Aug 2 2005, 10:29 PM
 again "black box" like in Windows NT long live open source  !
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bureX
Aug 2 2005, 05:55 PM
No, actually, that's not true...  This does not look exactly like Windows XP. Windows are now "popping up" with an animation before it is displayed. File management is allot easier, allot of multimedia features have been added, and overall computer performance is boosted. I like the fact that Windows Vista uses my graphics card more than ever instead of hogging my processor in order to do some effects! Now it is using pixel shaders to draw very stylish and flexible windows! At www.winsupersite.com, you can download a bunch of video clips and screenshots of Windows Vista (Longhorn, if you will). I saw some clips myself and I was pleased to see that the graphical user interface is greatly improved, that the search function is now searching your hard disk, the internet and your "history" for your search terms! (kind of like Google desktop search, although I sure hope that I can configure this Vista's tool to search using Google, instead of MSN search).  You can also create virtual folders! This feature is looking pretty good! Take a look: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvi...tualfolders.aspI sure hope that the new Windows version gets more secure, beautiful and functional than ever, otherwise, hello Linux (permanently this time)! All of the pictures were downloaded from the already mentioned site: www.winsupersite.com
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SecureA
Aug 2 2005, 04:25 PM
oh,really? is that true?
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rayishu
Jul 26 2005, 05:52 PM
longhorn looks exactly like windows Xp i hope they make a upgrade disk so i dont have to pay the full money for the OS
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Dominic
Jul 26 2005, 05:26 PM
I think that is terrible! I wouldn't really call it spyware but... MicroSoft looking at everything on your computer!? Hopefully when LongHorn comes out on OSes.... They will make a option NOT to send error reports!
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