rlineker
Apr 18 2006, 07:18 AM
| | If the next trip to mars that NASA do they should take up lots and lots of green house gasses. The green house gasses would create an atmostphere on mars and this would also keep heat in. Then NASA should take lots of plants to mars so that they can turn the vast amounts of carbon dioxide to oxygen so human beings can breath. Once the plants have created oxygen take water up and humans will be able to survive. |
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serverph
Apr 18 2006, 09:15 AM
something like this?
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amhso
Apr 18 2006, 11:11 AM
they already plan to put lots of plants because there is a TON of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere there. The plants would help produce oxygen, but then we also need nitrogen. Our air is composed not only of oxygen, just we USE the oxygen. If we go to Mars and dump a ton of oxygen, it become toxic.
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Cerebral Stasis
Apr 18 2006, 09:33 PM
The problem is that Mar's atmosphere allegedly isn't thick enough to hold much heat, so the plants would simply freeze and die. As for taking greenhouse gasses, it's not like we can just pack them in a suitcase. They have to be compressed, stored, hauled, etc. which means lots of fuel and lots of money, plus if we expected to put Earth's atmosphere on Mars to make it more liveable, that would be taking away from the atmosphere we have (obviously), therefore making Earth less habitable.
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Europe
Apr 23 2006, 12:10 PM
as for the plants they could go very well protected and then as for N2 we could just send some of ours for the time being bcoz we have loads, plus they should obvoiusly start with a closed envoirement expanding afterwards! QUOTE(rlineker @ Apr 18 2006, 08:18 AM)  If the next trip to mars that NASA do they should take up lots and lots of green house gasses. The green house gasses would create an atmostphere on mars and this would also keep heat in. Then NASA should take lots of plants to mars so that they can turn the vast amounts of carbon dioxide to oxygen so human beings can breath. Once the plants have created oxygen take water up and humans will be able to survive.
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AlanDS
Apr 24 2006, 04:39 PM
QUOTE(rlineker @ Apr 18 2006, 12:48 PM)  If the next trip to mars that NASA do they should take up lots and lots of green house gasses. The green house gasses would create an atmostphere on mars and this would also keep heat in. Then NASA should take lots of plants to mars so that they can turn the vast amounts of carbon dioxide to oxygen so human beings can breath. Once the plants have created oxygen take water up and humans will be able to survive.
The problems are: 1) You may be thinking that plants only need Oxygen. , but let me tell you that the plants need oxygen for its respiration all day. The only thing they do on earth is that they give out more Oxygen than the Carbon-di-oxide. This is not possible on Mars coz the major content up there is CO2. 2) The normal temperature in the lower atmosphere is about 200 Kelvin, which is generally cooler than the average day time surface temperature which is around 250 K. 3) The powerful sun rays (due to absence of atmosphere) may cause mutations in the plants up there. 4) Plants on Earth are adjusted to the physical and chemical conditions of Earth through mutations. But if a plant was to adjust itself to mars then, it will just die (of continuous mutations). The Viking experiments found no persuasive evidence for life on the surface of Mars. But on account of my imagination, I sometimes think that mars was once like our beautiful Earth. People polluted the environment, the level of CO2 increased until the percentage was so large that it ultimately ended life on Mars. And it is Earth’s turn now…
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Cerebral Stasis
Apr 25 2006, 05:39 PM
Alan, maybe I completely missed what you're trying to say, but if I didn't, I see a few problems with your statements. 1) Plants take in carbon dioxide and give out oxygen, so there wouldn't be a problem with the CO2 content, although there may not be enough nitrogen in the atmosphere to support plant life. 2) Yeah, I'd say that 200K is usually cooler than 250K, unless special circumstances apply. 3) Mutations due to radiation aren't as common as science fiction makes them seem. More likely, the plants would simply die from the radiation, not mutate into some form of super-plant, like what happens in the science fiction movies of the '60s. 4) The plants wouldn't die of continuous mutations, they would just die of a lack of necessary nutrients and chemicals to keep them alive. The soil of Mars would probably be very high in radiation and low in nitrogen and other necessary nutrients, since, as far as we know, there was never any life on Mars (and as such, no organic material to feed the plant), plus the extreme temperatures would be too much for most kinds of plants.
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minimcmonkey
Jun 24 2008, 06:29 PM
They would be beter off using water for air - If you apply a large amount of electricity to water, it will release oxygen, and with so little pressure on mars, oxygen would be safely breathable! Also, you still have the water to drink, and live. But call idea, and cool thread!!
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Galahad
Jun 24 2008, 09:43 PM
As it was said, aside from needing CO2, plants also need something to eat, minerals and other nutrients... If we were to take just any plant to Mars, and put it there, it would simply die, plain and simple... It just wouldn't work... What my idea was (and still is), and I'm sure NASA brains are also thinking of it, is to create a form of bacteria, that would use CO2, to create Oxygene, or perhaps just to create some sort of nutrient in the soil... Ofcourse, terraforming a planet is a long tie process, which would probably take a 100 years or more, to accomplish... For now, I can only see glass domes on Mars, where people will live in colonies, while thebacteria, the plants, and who knows what other tech, terrafroms the mars into what we need to live...
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Carson
Jun 25 2008, 01:40 AM
Well, if you believe the theory of evolution then it's quite unlikely that anything from this planet will live on Mars. Over millions of years organisms have adapted to the conditions and climate change of earth(thats not actually evolution, thats just adapting). They conditions on Mars are far too different from that of Earth, it's just not going to happen. It's so far away anyway, the temperature will never be suitable. Even if you could get plants up there, we could still never live there. What's the point in having an outerspace garden? Not much point at all. I think it will never happen.
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mm22
Jul 8 2008, 03:46 AM
Has anyone mentioned that plants actually NEED oxygen to survive? just like any other (or almost any other) living organism on Earth they "breathe" by consuming oxygen and releasing CO2... then of course comes the star, photosynthesis, that can turn the "bad guy" CO2 into breathable O2! as far as I remember from biology classes the two processes (breathing and photosynthesis) are independent one from the other so in an atmosphere containing solely or mostly CO2 plants won't be able to breathe, thus to live, thus to carry on the photosynthesis process... let aside, as mentioned earlier, the lack of nutrients in the soil... nevertheless, I believe someday humans will be able to make whatever change they'll like on Mars, given they'll had survived by then
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merlin22
Jul 7 2008, 07:53 PM
Cool dude, I love it! =p
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merlin22
Jul 7 2008, 07:52 PM
Cool dude, I love it! =p
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litchy
Jul 5 2008, 04:44 PM
Wow these ideas are truely interesting and could one day become realistic
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AbdurahmanL
Jul 4 2008, 04:34 PM
The problem is, we are nowhere near having the technology to doing that stuff on Mars now. Maybe in 100-200 years or so, but definitely not now.
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