Kill Murderers? - Should we do it?

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I do completely agree with heavensound, that none may take anyones life. Murder and child rapist etc. should get jailed for their whole life, the best thing would be to get them into psychotherapeutic observation or something similar. THey could rather work in camps, observed. But why should you kill them? You would be as bad as the defendant himself. Well, that is just my opinion...... read more.
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Kill Murderers? - Should we do it?

Tramposch
Well, i am not sure if somebody already posted this, just delete this if somebody did, but i didn't find anything smile.gif

I think that murderers should be hung, but in the electric chair, or whatever they do today, instead of being givin a life sentence in jail! What is the point! them goverment people are just wasting our money, by collecting extra taxes paying for food and items for people in jail! If somebody did something wron, like murdered, and given a life sentence, they have time to think of a new plan for a murder, if they escape!? I am thinking the head of the prisions, or whoever is wanting them to escape and go around and start murding people, but why? Do they know the people who are in jail? Or do they just feel bad for them. Dont feel bad for them, just look what they did, they ended somebodies life unexpectedly, and that is pure wrong, and all they do is give the murderers a time to think of another plan... I think anybody with a life sentence should be killed, or sent away to their death somewhere... somewhere.

Just think, part of your tax goes to.... cleaing up (dont think of it that way) messes from murderers, building new containment areas for the murderers, buying food for the murderers, buying clother for the murderers, buying more murders for the murderers!!

Please tell me what you think about this matter, your opinion..

 

 

 


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velma
Hi,

You have to think it in this way that if you do not feel bad for murderers then you are thinking like them and then are responsible for somebody's death so then it gives somebody else to take your life because you were a murderer. You might argue that you murdered the convict because he was a bad guy or something, similarly a woman light have killed her husband because he had tortured her for many years, Obviously you would feel bad for her but then again the law marks her as a murderer.

There is no use if we too behave like them and go on a massacre and If we really wanted to save resources like money, food, water, clothes and such I guess we should get rid of politicians for they are the ones who are responsible for the deaths of a lot of people in situations where they could have helped. A politician is mentally stable when he makes his decisions but a convict in most cases is mentally unstable at the time of the crime or from a long time leading to the time of murder.

Just because they acted foolishly does not mean that we too should go ahead and start decapitating heads.

 

 

 


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master_bacarra
you know that it takes someone with guts to kill or punish a murderer. in the past, those who do the execution wear masks in order to rid themselves of the guilt (if not all) of killing someone guilty. these days, punishments for the guilty are less strict (for lack of a better term). the punishment given to these criminals are the most "just", because they know they are also messing with people's lives. it's not as simple as shouting "burn at the stake!" or "off with his head!". i believe the justice system still has it's bases planted on the virtues of whatever religion they belong to. they believe that taking people's lives is not the best way to give the punishment, that it's their god who will lay the judgment. some people just think that they're no different if they killed these criminals themselves.

and i forgot to mention that we're talking about the guilty ones, not the innocent ones who are accused wrongly. i guess this is one of the reasons why what you're trying to say here can't work effectively. again, it's just the point of messing with people's lives.

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Jarlaxe
Yes, i am all for killing those who have committed crimes like murder. As long as there is sufficient evidence to back it up. In England we just have a life sentance which is about 30 years. Amazingly stupid. Thoses who have committed crimes that bad just deserve to die (in my opinion).

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Sprnknwn
If they scape? Oh, you must have seen a lot Prison Break recently laugh.gif

Well, seriously, if we start killing murderers we are violating human rights (which some states of the US already do, not to say other non-developed countries). Well, first we can kill murderers to avoid they do it again. And then we can cut thieves' hands to avoid robbery also. The justice cannot be based on the eye for an eye thing. It is supposed to also educate and make criminals think about what have they done. Because you complain for money being wasted on somebody you don't care about. But someone else could say he doesn't care about rapers, kidnappers or pick-pocketers lives. So we could kill them all just to earn some dollars.

It's not right... for me, in the 21st century, justice only kill people in barbarian countries.

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master_bacarra
QUOTE(Jarlaxe @ May 31 2007, 04:27 PM) *
Yes, i am all for killing those who have committed crimes like murder. As long as there is sufficient evidence to back it up. In England we just have a life sentance which is about 30 years. Amazingly stupid. Thoses who have committed crimes that bad just deserve to die (in my opinion).


the reason why it's 30 years because the life expectancy of humans are short. men on the average die around the age of 70-80, women die on a higher age. and if they ever come out alive after the years they've spent in jail, i believe they're old enough and probably tired already so they can't really commit a very heavy crime. it's a bit naive, but i don't think the elders aren't that much capable of commiting crimes any more. i'm actually quite sympathetic of those old ones that spend their lives in jail.

QUOTE(Sprnknwn @ May 31 2007, 05:05 PM) *
If they scape? Oh, you must have seen a lot Prison Break recently laugh.gif


well the competency of the security people is tested if they can't prevent the prisoners from escaping. but it's not enough reason to kill. i guess the part where people should be vigilant in protecting themselves comes in.

QUOTE(Sprnknwn @ May 31 2007, 05:05 PM) *
Well, seriously, if we start killing murderers we are violating human rights (which some states of the US already do, not to say other non-developed countries). Well, first we can kill murderers to avoid they do it again. And then we can cut thieves' hands to avoid robbery also. The justice cannot be based on the eye for an eye thing. It is supposed to also educate and make criminals think about what have they done. Because you complain for money being wasted on somebody you don't care about. But someone else could say he doesn't care about rapers, kidnappers or pick-pocketers lives. So we could kill them all just to earn some dollars.


like what i've said before, it's not the medieval times or the witch hunt era where people are accused and easily punished through ways that could be called inhumane. it's true that the main reason for putting criminals in jail is to keep them in check. but i don't believe that the government is wasting money by letting them stay in prison. in our country, prisons are one of the worst places, because it's so cramped. you'd see the criminals and you can't imagine the agony they're in. some of them can't even sleep because there are no space to lie onto. but i don't think it's enough reason to kill. staying in a prison like that is enough torture for someone to get into his senses.

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husker
I agree with Velma and Master bacarra here. If we kill the murderers, then we would be murderers. I believe if we started to kill murderers, then the topic of death will become more widespread. Believe it or not, most people enjoy watching people die (or they did at least). So then, they would want more to die for their entertainment and our population would just start decreasing and a civil war might break out. Yes, that is a stretch, but I don't think much good can come out of killing murderers. After their jail time, very very few of them will still be murderers because they know that taking someone's life isn't worth being in prison and suffering. Interesting idea though, keep thinking.

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truefusion
Killng the murderers would spare them any guilt they would have after being caught and sentenced to jail. Many would say that is enough punishment, if they at all have any guilt, for the murderers. Then there are those who, when caught, was proud of their act and even pleaded guilty due to their arrogance—should these be put to death?—obviously, old age isn't gonna stop them from committing the same crime, for, apparently, they live and thrive on such acts. Then there are those whose life sentences get cut short due to "good behavior." blink.gif

But killing murderers isn't gonna solve the problem. The person that they killed could not be saved, nor is getting rid of one gonna get rid of them all. But "good behavior" privileges should not be given.

QUOTE(Tramposch @ May 30 2007, 08:52 PM) *
Just think, part of your tax goes to ... buying more murders for the murderers!!

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Matt2
I personally don't think they should be killed. They deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their lives. But I can hwever see your point about them using up all of the tax payers money to house them, clean them, feed them etc. I would still say they deserve to rot away in prison, but I too would say that they have too many luxerys at the moment, in todays prison. The things they are allowed in prison are amazing. Like in my country I think they are allowed televisions and radios, if I had it my way, they wouldn't be allowed anything. But then again the government is trying to rehabilate them so they don't re-offend, like getting them a free education. I don't think we should kill them though sad.gif.

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salamangkero
I'd like to clarify that when I talk of murderers, I'm referring to real murderers, not those who were framed up or something.

Personally, I don't approve of murdering the murderers; it's too good a death for them. However, I also don't approve of carting them away into some prison where they could gloat about their feat to fellow prisoners. Wouldn't it be much better if they were subject to public humiliation and torture? Why take their lives when you can take something much more precious than that?

Also, I don't think killing them outright is a good idea. After all, not all judicial systems are perfect and we do get genuinely innocent people framed up. If we kill them, we can't just say "Ooops, sorry!" or something like that. (unless the government employs necromancers) In a way, incarcerating them is a better idea 'coz when a judge finally realizes his mistake, he can still do something for the poor guy.

However, I do notice that most, if not all, prison facilities here focus more on containment, rather than correction. For example, how does a rapist turn from his ways when he (or she?!?) encounters situational sexual coercion of some homosexual form every night in jail? How does a cold-blooded murderer turn his back on violence when, ever and anon, jailhouse brawls explode? How do smugglers and drug pushers say noto their craft when, day by day, their skills are honed by underhand trades in the prison's underground market?

The way I see it, jailing, alone, is not enough? If you tell a boy that what he did was a bad thing, there is a high chance that he won't even understand what you're saying. Experience is the best teacher so why not let these people experience much direr consequences of their actions? Jail time, bah! It's just another way of saying, "You get free food,only slight to moderate labor, a chance to meet new people and all the fvc<!ng you want (probably more) all night long."

For murderers, why don't we puncture their skin with long pins... everyday? The sensation of hundreds of pinpricks stabbing at him (or her) will make them wish they're dead. More importantly, though, it'd impress on their mind that such pain is very much avoidable if only they didn't pull the trigger back then.

How about slicing off the fingers of thieves and smugglers piece by piece every month? For the right hand alone, that makes for a year and two months of pure excitement. Castration for pedos and rapists, anyone? Public lashing for cases of fraud and tax evasion?

Bah! The world might be a safer place if only some human rights organizations weren't too squeamish on administering proper punishment that fits the crime. As it is, what's running on those people's minds right now is not repentance but revenge. They learn new tricks in jail but I doubt those tricks are the one beneficial to society happy.gif

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mojoman
I do completely agree with heavensound, that none may take anyones life. Murder and child rapist etc. should get jailed for their whole life, the best thing would be to get them into psychotherapeutic observation or something similar. THey could rather work in camps, observed. But why should you kill them? You would be as bad as the defendant himself. Well, that is just my opinion...

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Shimizu
I think that we should kill murderers, they have no reason to live, they have no respect for others lives and so they should be killed themselves. It is morrally wrong what they do and so morrality should not apply to them

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Archangel_Baw
lmao I just saw this in someones siggie: An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.
I'm inclined to agree. honestly, I believe murderers & rapists etc are newer souls who just dont know any better.

I also believe that in some cases, there is a REAL mental illness at play. This is not to excuse the behavior at all, but killing them or torturing them is also a form of murder and cruelty and makes you become the very thing you judge.

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heavensounds
In my opinion noone has the right to take others life! If your life is threatend, you can act in self defense and even kill your attacker but that is the only situation in which murder is ok. Even killing in revenge is not ok as that makes you the same as the one who did you harm or even worse.

So what to do with criminals who have killed 10 people for example. If they are to be killed, someone has to do it and by killing he creates a karmic bondage to this killer and is also forced to kill another human being! That is not OK and should not be requested from anyone. So this leaves the question open...

I think that the best thing to do is to use an island somewhere in the see COMPLETELY guarded. On that island I'd put each and every killer who should be there till the rest of his life with other people like him - killers. So we'd have an island full of psychopats and other heavy killers which would then have to work together if they wanted to survive, because all they'd get would be a showel and seeds so they could grow their own food. That's it and the only money you need is for the guards to be there, transportation and to find an island like that! Please bare in mind, that i am talking about serial "heavy" killers, not someone who in affect killed his "love triangle" opponent;) They should go to normal prisons till the rest of their lives without any excuse!

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csp4.0
only murderers who had a fair trial and still was guilty then they should be killed, but not by lethal injection or electric chair or even getting hanged, they should be STONED yes STONED to death, because they deserve it

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