Jsp Or Php

p_a

Sep 26 2005, 09:12 PM

I had bad experience with Java Server Pages. Lot of problems, website in difficulties, ....

PHP seems to be much better. Fast, reliable. Optimized for databases. Really good.

Many sites went from JSP to PHP.

patelg

Sep 26 2005, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(p_a @ Sep 27 2005, 08:12 AM)

It depends, why and how you are using this technologies. For Normal web use, PHP will be easy to use with many features....as you already know.

But for complex websites and applications, Java/Jsp solution is much preferable, secure.

This is the reason big organisations use Java/.NET solutions.

Once you site grows bigger and bigger it becomes hard to maintain as it becomes complex with more users, more application and features.

Also, it requires more security, as it also increases threat of being hacked into.

For normal website, PHP solutions is great way to start.

Anyway, different developer has their own opinion but this is mine.

vitrus

Oct 10 2005, 03:38 PM

You are totally right...
-PHP is much easier... You don't have to bother about object types (string, integer, array, enumeration ed).. you just enter $object = "whaaaatever"; and it allways works...
- PHP works fast for small applications (so most personal websites).
- PHP has more default methods (like stripslashes() sha1() md5() etc)...
- And a PHP host is very easy to find... JSP takes some more time....

However: JSP / J2EE r0000x..
if you use it where its made for "Jave 2 enterprise edition"...

dul

Oct 19 2005, 12:50 AM

Of course JSP. PHP good. ASP as well. But JSP's encoding is very good.

epox

Oct 19 2005, 02:51 AM

i think java is better than php, in one hand php is easy and it doesn't have language restrictions and at last it brings you the security that any other language offers you, but when you talk of proffesional coding it's worthless because it hasn't variable constraints and a lot of things respect to object oriented programming. In the other hand java is specially designed for a good object oriented programming, it's a litle hard to learn but it has the modularity needed to acomplish professional coding and also all the complex of java packets.

mcfly

Nov 5 2005, 08:51 PM

When I first encountered PHP about 5 years ago (can't even remember which version it was...an early 4.x, I think) it had some issues. We were thinking of switching from CF to PHP, but in our testing one of the dll's related to PHP kept throwing errors and gumming up the works. But that was a long time ago and PHP has seen some pretty serious changes since then.

A few days ago, Marc Andreeson was quoted as saying he thinks PHP will surpass Java as the "standard" server-side language (perhaps he specified "web-services language," I can't recall).

To be brutally honest, I think one of Java's biggest problems is Sun. I'd have more faith in it's longevity if it were an IBM product (which may be the case, some day).

Plenoptic

Nov 5 2005, 08:56 PM

I don't have experience in either of the programming languages yet but I think they both have their advantages. I prefer php though. I use it for navigation around my site.

michaelper22

Nov 26 2005, 11:38 PM

ASP.Net and JSP are better for large scale, enterprise level applications. I went to the MSDN event in NYC, and in the demonstrations, they were using Visual Studio, a rather expensive product (depending on the edition), and more affordable for companies than individuals. PHP is free and can be developed for with pretty much any editor (not to mention many good free IDEs).

masterio

Aug 28 2006, 02:27 PM

For me, PHP is the best programming tool even for enterprise solution. I know java is good. But for web programming, nothing is better than PHP.

if you talk about OOP, just remember, PHP 5 now support OOP 99,5% not like PHP 3 or 4. BTW, there is no system 100% secure. It's depend on the programmer side. Is he understand about security or writing secure code?

The most best market for java i think is for Mobile Application. I've learn java and it run so slow, than C or C++. Just an example, to open "open dialog box" java (I used JAVA 1.5) need at least 6 seconds. And C++ application only took 0.01 secs. Any one has some problem?

fffanatics

Aug 28 2006, 03:31 PM

You cant just say php or jsp. You have to look at the project you are currently creating and determine what features it needs and will needs and then you choose the language to do it. For smaller projects that dont need all of the windows look-and-feel that the jsp and ajax pages allow, you would stay with php. If you get into a page like gmail, etc. that need tons of complex features, multiple developers working on the same project, etc. you would go with java because it would decrease the time it would take for a project like that to be completed as compared to using php. Finally, you also could do similar types of pages in lisp and write your lisp code so it outputs to php / c code that can be used on the web. Those are your options but you have to know exactly what the person / company wants before you choose a language.

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masugidsk8r

Mar 13 2007, 11:19 AM

I think I prefer PHP because it\'s much easier. Plus it\'s object-oriented. It uses the same classes and objects functions as JAVA. Besides, some JAVA developers are trying to get to developing Javascript/AJAX applications with the help of Google Web Toolkit.

salamangkero

Mar 4 2007, 02:31 PM

Just a short interesting analogy I've heard fro a friend:

Java and JSP are like obsessive-compulsive people who cannot seem to trust their programmers/developers. It's a lot like they're thinking, "You are a developer. You are prone to mistakes. It is my job to call attention to even the tiniest of your mistakes. I know I'm slow but that's because I'm nitpicking your work so shut up and wait for me to finish."

C and PHP, on the other hand, are like totally gullible slobs. They trust their developers, sometimes a bit too much. "I know you can do it," they say. "If something goes wrong, though, it's not my problem 'coz maybe you want that something to go wrong. Maybe you aren't making mistakes but just doing that $#!+ on purpose. Go ahead I won't stop you."

So in the end of our dinner, I was even more befuddled with visions of talking programs. Still, though, it all depends on your needs. For general-purpose web development, though, I think PHP is better.

apacheNewbie

Mar 4 2007, 12:30 PM

JSP is usually used for big enterprise application and PHP for smaller ones

But I think newest version PHP has major upgrade which make it able to make enterprise application equal to those built using JSP.

And, I feel that JSP is overcomplex, so I choose PHP

FLaKes

Feb 24 2007, 05:48 PM

It totally depends on what you are using it for, for normal everyday applications I think php will be better but if we are talking about enterprise level kind of applications were lots of security is involved I would think that the better option would be jsp. Php has more user support and you can find help almost anywhere though.

everflame

Feb 24 2007, 05:39 PM

It mostly depends on the project itself. If it's a small one php will do just fine. But if you intend to build something big, evergrowing and with a lot of complexity and still you need to keep it neat and easy to maintain, I'll say go for JSP. But have in mind that it is far harder to find free JSP than PHP hosting. One more advantage...And here is the greatest advantage of developing in JSP....Whenever you reach a dead end in writing your J2EE app there is always someone that can help you out there on the numerous java forums.

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