miladinoski

Aug 12 2008, 06:40 PM

I hate that peace of junk web-browser, and I don't know what THE HELL were Microsoft's devs thinking when they made it and decided it to be bundled with the OS and not making it nearly good enough as other variants.
I can say, yes, I understand that a browser needs to be incorporated into the OS, otherwise how could a man go and surf the web or download other browser? But I can't understand on what crack were the devs when they created IE 4 (and higher browsers, though I suspect that can be told about the upcoming IE 8, but we'll let the time show us what the destiny foretold) and all it's evilness around it. IE 4 included things like the channel bar which put adverts on to the desktop, horrible, horrible and when I say horrible, I mean horrible rendering and the worst thing was that it was a necessary requirement for lots and lots of apps available for Windows at the time which made the continued versions of IE 5, 5.5 and 6.0 reach the peak of the web-browser share of around 85% in September/November at the year of 2003. Hopefully IE has a constant and steady drop of the share in turn of most notably Firefox on PCs/Macs, Safari on PCs/Macs and handheld devices (iPhone, iPod) and Opera on PCs/Macs and handheld devices (Opera mobile/mini). I also can understand why most of the people still use IE - they don't know about alternatives (yet), but I also can't understand why some people (I know a friend that does this, as do several other people I have spotted on the internet) still use IE and they know of other browsers, but still use their favoured browser of choice -- IE. Explaining that it makes the web-devs life harder doesn't matter, my friend says: "If they [web-devs] have problems with the browser not compatible with their site, why not make the site look good in IE and recommend users to use that browser to surf their website", after I explained to him that there are other OS's and other handheld devices that don't run IE, he just blows this stupidity to me: "Then they should switch to Windows and not use other OS's and as for handheld devices they should make Windows and IE too" and after telling him that it [Windows mobile + Pocket IE] exists he just says every phone should run that [Windows + IE] and ignores everything I say after that. That makes me mad, but that's what kind of friend I have: stubborn and stupid...

So, my conclusion is, not only IE makes web-devs life harder (no standards propriability), integrates stupid ActiveX and is only available for Windows and thus making it not free in both senses (free beer + free speech), but it also makes people stupid!!

I don't know what should I do, maybe I should not nerve myselve with my friend and continue spreading alternative browsers...

Yup, that's what I'll do!

P.S. I really, really hope that IE 8 will be great and not a failure like IE 7.

 

 

 

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A200

Aug 21 2008, 09:12 AM

IE is just as bad as the people who use it!

The IE addicts go out in the world and preach about IE and its "benefits".

It sickens me its like the newest cult to follow!

IE6 is really bad and annoying. heaps of people use it and dont bother to update to IE7 or heck swap to firefox, and then heaps of sites dont work in it

I also find it annoying when people make sites and put in some annoying code that blocks anyone using any other browser... giving them a message "your browser sucks, SWITCH TO IE " and I just leave the site entirely and never return.

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Dagoth Nereviar

Aug 21 2008, 04:20 PM

I think im the only one here who uses IE im guessing? I really dont mind using it. I don't see what the big fuss is about with it being "evil and horrible and its THE WORST IT SHOULD DIE AAAARRGGH". You're just as bad as the IE lovers who're like "OMG ITS GREAT ITS THE BEST THING EVAH FF SHOULD DIE!!".

I don't like using FF, but thats personal choice because I think it looks more cluttered than IE, and I cant get the same font size as IE (Yes, anal, but why change to something which slightly bugs me when its the same?) All the rest of it is the same to me, I dont even mind checking websites in more than one browser. However, saying "why does it have to different to the other browsers?!" is stupid, coz im sure IE came before FF, thus FF is different to IE, so if you're going to blame anyone technically you have to blame them.

QUOTE(A200 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:12 AM)

I also find it annoying when people make sites and put in some annoying code that blocks anyone using any other browser... giving them a message "your browser sucks, SWITCH TO IE " and I just leave the site entirely and never return.

This one really pisses me off. Not that he was having a go at IE, but that people do crap like this. Because people do it with FF too, or they say "You have IE! It sucks! Get FF and this website will load faster!" People complain about IE shoving crap down ya neck (Which i've never had, and I've never been forced to install toolbars) when people do the same with FF. Hell, I even tried the website in FF. Still was crap and didn't work/load.

QUOTE(miladinoski @ Aug 12 2008, 06:40 PM)

So, my conclusion is, not only IE makes web-devs life harder (no standards propriability), integrates stupid ActiveX and is only available for Windows and thus making it not free in both senses (free beer + free speech), but it also makes people stupid!!

To be perfectly honest? That poll makes you stupid...so does the bold thing

QUOTE(miladinoski @ Aug 12 2008, 06:40 PM)

P.S. I really, really hope that IE 8 will be great and not a failure like IE 7.

I'm not planning on switching to IE8, like I did'nt switch with IE7. But thats because I hate changing/updating program xD But in all honesty, if IE pisses you off that much, why do you care about its future versions? I dont like FF, I have no idea what version we're on and dont care. And im not going to make a topic on why I hate FF and talk about it. Dont like it? just dont use it and stay away.

QUOTE(miladinoski @ Aug 12 2008, 06:40 PM)

Explaining that it makes the web-devs life harder doesn't matter, my friend says: "If they [web-devs] have problems with the browser not compatible with their site, why not make the site look good in IE and recommend users to use that browser to surf their website", after I explained to him that there are other OS's and other handheld devices that don't run IE, he just blows this stupidity to me: "Then they should switch to Windows and not use other OS's and as for handheld devices they should make Windows and IE too" and after telling him that it [Windows mobile + Pocket IE] exists he just says every phone should run that [Windows + IE] and ignores everything I say after that.

Does anyone else see why this is hypocritical crap? You're pretty much telling everyone to stop using IE because its *BLEEP*, but then have a go at your mate because he says the same, just with something you didnt like? And no one can say "he didnt say that at all!" because...

QUOTE(miladinoski @ Aug 12 2008, 06:40 PM)

I don't know what should I do, maybe I should not nerve myselve with my friend and continue spreading alternative browsers...
Yup, that's what I'll do!

...so given the chance, I do believe he would make it so IE doesnt work handhelds/at all.

Anyways, to sum up, people should stop complaining so much about IE and stop forcing people to switch to FF. But, like wise, it shouldnt be done about people complaining about FF and forcing them to use IE.

Just use what you enjoy, sod the rest!

 

 

 

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