Saint_Michael
Nov 25 2007, 09:53 AM
Wow that soon, I guess they should start deleting 90% of the internet then because of most of consists of junk, porn, illegal activity, and websites that repeat themselves over and over again. I guess though there is more to it then just that though, and this little quote says it all or rather part of the problem we could be facing. QUOTE Internet users will create 161 exabytes of new data this year, and this exaflood is a positive development for Internet users and businesses, IIA says. An exabyte is 1 quintillion bytes or about 1.1 billion gigabytes. One exabyte is the equivalent of about 50,000 years of DVD quality video. One second while I faint over that, of course the other part of the size problem is that backbone providers are not catching up to this increase of size, including bandwidth usage as well. What is a backbone provider you ask well its as simple as this definition: QUOTE An organization that supplies access to high-speed transmission lines that connect users to the Internet. These lines comprise the backbone of the Internet. Different from an ISP, which provides users access to the Internet, a backbone provider supplies the ISPs with access to the lines, such as T1 or T3 lines, that connect ISPs to each other, allowing the ISPs to offer their customers Internet access at high speeds. So the next question people are going to ask how much is going to cost? Well that depends on who you ask, Yahoo article says $55-60 billion dollars, and PC World saying $137 billion, $40 billion of that for the US alone. Of course we all know they are not going to invest that kind of money or rather if they do talk about the very big price hike in ISP service and even cable service as well to cover this cost. So I say start pressing the delete button. SOURCE YahooPC World
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Liam_CF
Nov 25 2007, 10:45 AM
I believe that they will have to do something major to stop this happening. I just hope they don't touch my website.
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galexcd
Nov 25 2007, 10:56 PM
<sarcastic>They need to make a second internet. Its the only explanation. They need to start over and make it better. They need to make it a big truck, because this internet isn't a big truck. You can't just dump stuff on it. The internet is a SERIES OF TUBES! If we keep dumping all this junk on the internet and it clogs them up. Thousands of gallons of drano are used each year to unclog the internet. </sarcastic> (I'm glad that Ted knows his stuff because I sure didn't know that) But all seriousness, I don't think they can go around deleting stuff. I'm no network admin, but I know that we are just connecting to other computers and servers, and they aren't going to go hack into others computers and start erasing stuff. If anything is going to happen is domain names are going to perhaps be revoked, and we might even need a new top level domain suffix (or whatever they are called).
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Tetraca
Nov 25 2007, 11:28 PM
I think the only issue on the internet right now is the fact that everything is still using IPv4 when IPv6 would be able to accomodate many more people without need for shared IPs. Moore's law would also probably alleviate some of the issues. In the U.S. there might be some trouble because of an overabundance of connections while companies update technologies in a sluggish pace to accomodate what they can't accomodate if they don't start investing in better, faster, and more reliable-in-large-numbers technology now, I wouldn't be suprised if there would be executive orders forbidding the public from viewing mind numbing social networking sites lobbied by the ISPs so we can keep the internet connections up. The ISPs certainly have the money to do so - they make rediculous amounts of profit off phone calls working on automated machinery. Our bills shouldn't go up that far for them to upgrade the infastructure.
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krazygoddess
Nov 26 2007, 12:16 AM
ok so feeling kinda dumb here but not that computer literate, know how to do the things i want to do and thats about it..lol what exactly does this mean for us if the internet maxes out? will we not be able to use it anymore? is it gonna lock up? what will happen? 
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omarsdali
Nov 26 2007, 12:17 AM
There are some companies that say the only solution for the internet is to start over from a clean slate, and redesign everything so that it's more reliable and more secure. In other words replace the internet with a different totally new network. There are a couple of research project going on out there one of them is called GENI, I forgot what the other one was called. Check out this article from computer world http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl...mp;pageNumber=1
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de4thpr00f
Nov 26 2007, 01:35 AM
Ok, let's think. 1st 80% of this studies are a little bit exagerate (remember the comet that was supposed to collide earth?) 2nd, internet is a connection between computers, like a website. where is a website? On a computer. Is it affecting internet? How? I can't see the connection... And a isp? isn't it stored on a server? and don't tell me that the server is the internet... yet again... connection?! 3rd, if internet is so full, wasn't it supposed to crash?! how many times internet was down?Where's intnt?
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csp4.0
Nov 26 2007, 06:20 AM
lets see... The internet isn't some sort of central server. It is spread out amongst millions possibly even billions of different computers and servers. If all that space is used up then bye bye internet 1.1, hello web 2.0...
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omarsdali
Nov 26 2007, 06:56 AM
The article said that the study is the first to "apply Moore's Law (or something very like it) to the pace of application innovation on the Net", whereas Moore's law was only ment to be applied to semiconductors and not to web application development. So their conclusions cannot be too accurate. QUOTE 2nd, internet is a connection between computers, like a website. where is a website? On a computer. Is it affecting internet? How? I can't see the connection... And a isp? isn't it stored on a server? and don't tell me that the server is the internet... yet again... connection?! The more content you have hosted on each website, the more bandwidth you need for that content to be sent over the network, after a while you won't have enough bandwidth for all that content and you will have to upgrade the internet backbone.
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omarsdali
Nov 26 2007, 09:26 PM
QUOTE spam content removed from here zachoeser, are you just trying to get credits or what ?? what's the point of posting three replies and repeating 'ever' that many times ?? Do you mind telling us at least WHY this could never happen ??
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coolcat50
Mar 14 2008, 07:17 PM
I don't see how this even possible? How can the Internet crash when it is a connection of millions of servers. Of course with that large amount of space being taken up. I am not surprised this could happen though. Of course taking down useless websites like porno sites and illegal websites would probably take out a third of that space. But the Internet will never max out.
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jopak134
Mar 14 2008, 05:34 PM
that would be the day but i think its not true. this could be just another y2k bug ( anyone remember this one ) ohh scarry 
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csp4.0
Dec 27 2007, 11:39 AM
QUOTE(adriantc @ Dec 27 2007, 09:03 AM)  I think the Internet could max out some time in the future, but I don't think it will crash or something. When and if the Internet will max out then the cost will become to great; bandwidth will become more expensive and so the rapid growth of the Internet will halt. The Internet will crash when civilization will crash... it may stop growing as it does today but it won't simply crash. But as the Internet grows so will the technology... optic cables will be replaced by something better and the costs will go down. Of course that will not e enough to compensate, but it should give us more time.
On a small scale you are right, but the Internet is so much bigger. When you access a server from the USA and you are in Europe it is much more then a simple UTP cable. The costs skyrocket fast. Not to mention some connections are made by satellite. That is why bandwidth is so expensive... In short we aren't wiring as much as our traffic needs. And when request is larger then the offer the prices go up... Basic market economy. So the Internet won't really max out but it will become to expensive to grow... huh, by that time we'd be saying... 'Hey, remember back in the old days when we had those 'terabyte' hard drives?' *laughs* And by then, each one of us will probably have a direct optical fibre connection to the local telephone exchange... we'd have 3.5" HDD with space of over 10TB and the ISPs would always be getting cheaper, this is just like the year 2000 robot rebellion thing... and the internet is NOT a giant server, it is spread out amongst millions of computers and servers, those computers and servers are what keeps the internet alive, but the problem is... Bandwidth, its what keeps the internet together. Maybe in 5-10 years almost everyone in the world would have access to the internet, and we would need ISPs that can actually handle all the request, there are two main solutions... Have giant ISPs that can afford anything and has almost total control of the world's internet so they would have the money to upgrade everything and turn everything into fibre optics (not recommended) or there is thousands of little ISPs that control maybe a suburb or a small part of a city (recommended), because then nobody will ever have total control of the internet, and also will allow a lot more bandwidth... The chances of this happening are almost impossible, we are a lot more technologically advanced than you might think (think about it, we have access to plasma shields (yes plasma shields), rail guns (yes rail guns like the ones in Stargate and CNC (slightly different though)) and much much more... We'd evolve (technologically) fast enough to compensate for our needs although the most dangerous thing for humanity is our population growth, we'd soon run out of space to build outwards and then we'd have to build up, if NASA doesn't get those genetically modified bacteria on mars and start Terra-forming it so it could become a 'farming' world then we'd be screwed if Earth even remotely ends up like 'Coruscant' or even worse 'Holy Terra'
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A200
Dec 27 2007, 11:14 AM
I would not be surprised if the governments of the world try to shut it down, after all, it was originally only for military use and NOT for civilian use. No website is safe.
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adriantc
Dec 26 2007, 10:03 PM
I think the Internet could max out some time in the future, but I don't think it will crash or something. When and if the Internet will max out then the cost will become to great; bandwidth will become more expensive and so the rapid growth of the Internet will halt. The Internet will crash when civilization will crash... it may stop growing as it does today but it won't simply crash. But as the Internet grows so will the technology... optic cables will be replaced by something better and the costs will go down. Of course that will not e enough to compensate, but it should give us more time. QUOTE 2nd, internet is a connection between computers, like a website. where is a website? On a computer. Is it affecting internet? How? I can't see the connection... And a isp? isn't it stored on a server? and don't tell me that the server is the internet... yet again... connection?! On a small scale you are right, but the Internet is so much bigger. When you access a server from the USA and you are in Europe it is much more then a simple UTP cable. The costs skyrocket fast. Not to mention some connections are made by satellite. That is why bandwidth is so expensive... In short we aren't wiring as much as our traffic needs. And when request is larger then the offer the prices go up... Basic market economy. So the Internet won't really max out but it will become to expensive to grow...
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