Doesnt it work if you put whatever you want, for example pure html or xhtml, or even css in a file called wathever.js instead of print: <div>...</div> ?

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i like to use <iframes> and some php includes, thinking of using javascript makes me lazy, because in some explorer they don't work quite well (at least for me, maybe i did them wrong =P) you can also try php includes by using <? include("page.php/inc"); ?> i havent tried it in html or htm files but it sures works fine with me =)

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I've said this 3 times already! If it's JS, it can be turned off!!!!

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Yes, dont get mad, and please first read the whole question to avoid misunderstaning, im talking about the js file, not the agent support, im asking if the file itself can contain html code without the need of using the "print" js command...

Please read and understand... dont get mad

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hmm... lozbo, that's a really interesting idea! although i think that some super agressive browsers may try to block it. Tyssen has a good point about using server side integration though. The main reason why i don't want to do that is because it sorta slows things down a bit.... but i guess that doesn't matter alot when you don't get alot of heavy traffic anyway.

Tyssen, do you know if HTML 'include' statements are enabled by default on trap17? You sort-of implied that they were (or at least that trap17 allowed 'include' statements) but were kind of vague in this area. Thanks for all your help guys. Much appreciated

peace out

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Usually the amount of slow down is so small as to be almost unnoticeable.
I don't know if Trap17 is configured to accept includes in HTML documents but it is for PHP documents. Don't worry if you don't know any PHP. Just create your page as you would normally, but instead of saving it as .html, save it as .php and then where you want to include the code that is to appear on all pages put:


And that's it. To give you an example, a site I created recently looked like this:


Every page looked like that except for the different content in the middle.

 

 

 

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Wow that's very helpful. Normally I use iframes because I didn't know of anything else to use. Of course iframes didn't help much to validate my site. lol This is more efficient. Thanks everyone.

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you can use php to insert certain things into all pages, such as logos. take a close look at the source of my spudgun site (http://spudguns.trap17.com). I use a file claled "php" which inserts information into all the bars for ever page.

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amsho,

* * * NEWS FLASH ***

Problem with viewing your source is: there is no php in the page by the time it gets to my browser. It is Html code so my browser can display it.

Why don't you post a code snippet here for others to have a look?

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Tyssen's point about client side 'includes' being able to be turned off is very valid. It seems more and more people are wary of javascript and will turn it off as a security precaution. Where possible you are definitely better off to use server side includes. This doesn't mean client side includes don't have their place, use them when server side includes such as PHP or ASP etc are not available.

PHP is an easy and powerful language to use, even an old man like me can learn to use it. If you have it available like you do here at Trap17, make the most of it.

As for slowing down the page by using includes, I don't think it would matter which way you do it, the page loading would be much the same. Generally it's basically on text of html that you are including so it be a similar load to actually writing the code on the one page.

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