Goosestaf
Jun 10 2006, 07:04 PM
QUOTE(myrmidon @ Jun 9 2006, 11:50 AM)  bloddy wankers , they now how to fine you but they dont know to refund youre money if the bought stuff not working well ...
how is w**kers not censored lol . . . . but ontopic. . . .untill i see an article which is a bit clearer i will assume these are just BS threats. i mean. . . .fining anyone who installs a program It sounds like fear-mongering to me. . . . . Fair enough actually sueing wrong dooers who have a significant amount of illegaly downloaded material. .. but sueing ppl who install a p2p program?. . . .thats BS . . . remember P2P can be legit. . . . . its how you use a program of a P2P nature which determines it Legitamacy . . . . i mean. . .MSN messenger can be classed as an illegal P2P program aswell IF A USER DECIDES to swap liscenced materials. . . . . its all jus fear mongering
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FirefoxRocks
Jun 10 2006, 07:27 PM
KaZaA is supposed to be legal. The content on the network is illegal (or most of it is). Other programs do this also, why only KaZaA? Other P2P prgorams include LimeWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Gnutella2, BitTorrent, Azuerus, Zena, etc, etc. So we need to get rid of the illegal files, not the programs.
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bazranz
Jun 18 2006, 11:02 PM
Personally, I would not uses P2P's  . Oh, OK, yes I do, sometimes, but the likes of us who download a few songs, or the odd film aren't the problem. It is the people who download thousands of music albums, or films, and then sell them cheap. There was a case locally last week, where the police raided a house and found around 10,000 dvd's of films, some not even released over here yet, and these were being sold for £5 each, or 3 for £10. It was a major operation, with a huge market to fill. I agree that this kind of high volume piracy needs to be stopped, but how. Pandoras box is open now, and to close it would mean every single computer in the world being checked, and who has the resources for that.
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moldboy
Jun 19 2006, 01:37 AM
RIAA can't fine you they aren't a legal body. That's like If I were to send you a ticket in the mail fining you $400 for being rude to me at lunch, doesn't matter, nothing gonna make you pay it.
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WarFact
Jun 19 2006, 05:38 AM
QUOTE(moldboy @ Jun 18 2006, 08:37 PM)  RIAA can't fine you they aren't a legal body. That's like If I were to send you a ticket in the mail fining you $400 for being rude to me at lunch, doesn't matter, nothing gonna make you pay it.
Yeah I was just thinking about it. I didn't think someone could fine you for installing a program on your computer. It's a free country, you have the right to install a program. Now what it comes down to is what you do with the program. I could be installing it to share my band's music for all they know. I don't have kazaa but i'm just saying, how do they know that everyone who installs this program is going to use it for illegal purposes? They don't!
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tonyused
Jun 19 2006, 08:08 AM
I would not install Kazaa on my computer anyway because it downloads so much spyware and malware on your computer. It's absolute garbage these days. Limewire no problems. I have Limewire installed to look for the kind of stuff the RIAA wouldn't think of publishing these days and I wouldn't find in a music store or online legitimate stores. Stuff the RIAA they are not telling me what software I can and can't instaLL ON MY COMPUTER.
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Plenoptic
Jun 19 2006, 12:43 PM
From what I've heard, they are hunting down users of any program that shares files that should be paid for. They find out where you downloaded the program from like http://download.com and they trace your IP address and can find you that way. Or I'm pretty sure they can do that. I did hear that if you use the program way to much they notice who is downloading a lot and start to find out your information.
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garbage
Jun 19 2006, 03:51 PM
I also think its pretty stupid, if they fine you for just having the program.. either way, if your downloading ofcourse you make it easy for them to find you, but also what about the program Limewire they have also been around just as long as kazza and morpheus, and a few others that were named on a post above,, for some reason i rarely ever here anything on lime wire and also i think its interesting that limewire is a file share program such as kazza and you have options to pay for upgraded servies for better downnloads and such..pretty cool i think.. tho it is still illegal to download content from it.. one more thing.. Sony shouldnt be backing anything like they have chosen to back against kazza.. if i remember correctly just before the new year 2006 Sony was in the news for having a spyware on its music cds and the consumers not even knowing about it.. but yet they think its ok to do that and then go back up the RIAA against kazza
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nicholi.d
Jun 19 2006, 05:49 PM
hmm is that even possible for them to do.
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Gondero Werkus
Jun 19 2006, 06:01 PM
See one of the big things is, how are they supposed to know when you install the program in the first place? But I think with the new Windows OS, Vista, coming out real soon it might change things in the P2P community drastically. It has this thing called Trusted Computing Platform that Microsoft as well as other big companies like Sony, HP, Intel, and all those people helped come with to help get rid of software piracy and other things. All this being hardwired in the equipment (meaning you cannot remove it without modifiying your mother board and stuff) they could probably tell when your trying to install a bad program. So if Kazaa happens to get blacklisted then we don't get to use it anymore if we have Windows Vista. But there are still some rumors going around by some top people in the industry saying that this might not apply to Vista in the end.
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