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QUOTE(Renaissance @ Oct 2 2007, 01:49 PM) Radiation, ecological and terrain damage aside genocide is a punishable crime even in war. You can't just kill people because you disagree with them or in this case because they are agressive towards you. This holy war is fought by extremists who take the teachings of their own people too far. It happened in a different form with the Christian... read more.
Most world leaders are afraid of hurting the feelings of any extremist religion.
Because of 9/11.
Have you ever had a dog? Do you know the differance between a dog which you let do whatever it want and a dog which you teach that you're the #1 strongest alpha dominant leader?
The dog which you don't disipline will disrespect you and it'll think it's the boss in the house while the dog you dicipline will respect you.
Now, if a countryindividual person today insults.. Islam, for example, the extremists of that religion will become furious and there will be protests etc etc you know the proceedure.
It's at this point I think we go the wrong way; What we do is blame the country in question for not censoring the person/newspaper that posted the incredibly humorousoffensive cartoons. We give THEM critique when...
What we should do is:
1. "grow a couple" and 2. instead of supporting the terrorists and saying that it's wrong to offend people the leader would call the extremist leaders on the phone and tell them something along the lines of <<REMOVED>>. This would teach them that they can't mess with todays nuclear superpowers. And of they mess with them, boom! instantly. MuHaha let's see you bi*ch now!
Or maybe thats the solution? Nukes instantly?
A couple of small nukes, blowing up well selected regions of the torabora mountains..?
please note that this is not a anti-islam post I do not think more or less about any religion in the world.
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Yeah... I don't know what cave you were raised in, but last time I checked nuclear explosions not only affect those in their immediate vicinity including every biological thing, you know, cats, dogs, horses, snakes, spiders... EVERYTHING, but everything down wind all the way across the planet, including YOU and ME. Wake up man! Start thinking critically! You're completely wasting your meager brain power thinking up garbage that CAN'T happen without giving us all CANCER! And how is it ever right to kill innocents anyway? I suppose next you'll be telling us fictional characters like Jack Bower are GOOD. Go spew your ignorance elsewhere. Or grow a pair.... of brain cells.
Radiation, ecological and terrain damage aside genocide is a punishable crime even in war. You can't just kill people because you disagree with them or in this case because they are agressive towards you. This holy war is fought by extremists who take the teachings of their own people too far. It happened in a different form with the Christians during the Crusades, but nonetheless it happened. The true way to defeat such a regime of unjust acition and ill-conceived action is knowledge; lift the veil of ignorance and work towards understanding.
I bring up a well known quote, "One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" So by definition
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A couple of small nukes, blowing up well selected regions of the torabora mountains..?
You would be a terrorist.
The truth of the matter is anyone who spreads terror is a terrorist, Bush, Blair, the UN are all terrorists really. Bush and Blair bring the worst of the three. I think the only way to rid the planet of terrorists is to rid the planet of humans.
Yeah... I don't know what cave you were raised in, but last time I checked nuclear explosions not only affect those in their immediate vicinity including every biological thing, you know, cats, dogs, horses, snakes, spiders... EVERYTHING, but everything down wind all the way across the planet, including YOU and ME. Wake up man! Start thinking critically! You're completely wasting your meager brain power thinking up garbage that CAN'T happen without giving us all CANCER! And how is it ever right to kill innocents anyway? I suppose next you'll be telling us fictional characters like Jack Bower are GOOD. Go spew your ignorance elsewhere. Or grow a pair.... of brain cells.
Who is Jack Bower? I'm sorry but I can't see all your awesome glorious American TV shows (I'm going out on a limb here and assuming it's a TVshow you're talking about) here on the other side of the atlantic ocean, so I really don't know who you're talking about.
btw, How many braincells do I need to grow and add to my current pool in order to understand humor and sarcasm on the internet?
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Radiation, ecological and terrain damage aside genocide is a punishable crime even in war. You can't just kill people because you disagree with them or in this case because they are agressive towards you. This holy war is fought by extremists who take the teachings of their own people too far. It happened in a different form with the Christians during the Crusades, but nonetheless it happened. The true way to defeat such a regime of unjust acition and ill-conceived action is knowledge; lift the veil of ignorance and work towards understanding.
Genocide? When did religious fanatics become a separate part of the human race?
Are we now categorised into whites, blacks, asians, extremists, etc etc?
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You can't just kill people because you disagree with them
Man, this gets me, it really does.Go ahead and name me one war that wouldn't have happened unless people "disagreed" with eachother.
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I bring up a well known quote, "One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" So by definition. You would be a terrorist. The truth of the matter is anyone who spreads terror is a terrorist, Bush, Blair, the UN are all terrorists really. Bush and Blair bring the worst of the three. I think the only way to rid the planet of terrorists is to rid the planet of humans.
So by definition, the Dalai Lama is a terrorist? How about mother Theresa? Jesus?
Now, I don't know what the "Middle East envoy" is but I'm having a hard time understanding how Tony could use it to advance his "reign of terror".
What frustrates me is that no one is willing to actually do anything that would end the whole issue of this "war on terror" that we have.
Realistically-speaking, the terrorists are, well, ourselves.
Think about how many people are still rather skeptical about taking planes to destinations because of 9/11.
Think about how many people are probably a bit shaky about the state of our road bridges after Minnesota.
Think about how many people are afraid to feed their pets, let children have toys, or even eat certain foods after China's whole ordeal with releasing tainted products out of the country.
I believe there was even a fear of peanut butter at one point, tainted with salmonella.
People are friggin' retarded. We're like sheep, swayed by the exposure of media. We dress and act like MTV, believe every little bit of the news on CNN, FOX, or what-have-you. Conspirators are out there, spreading the many possibilities of what happened on 9/11 (the "truth"), not to mention their political propoganda in between the lines. Peers, friends, and even family constantly keep each other brainwashed and limiting open thought by barraging what they learn from these sources onto each other. There aren't a lot of free thinkers out there anymore.
Once we start learning that we are in control of our own lives and shouldn't fret over every friggin' thing out there BECAUSE the idiot box told us to, we'll be fine. As for the "war" in Iraq, we really need to throw in a massive operation to clean everything out, police the area, rebuild, then get the heck out and leave some posts there to try to keep the peace. Or just get the heck out and blow up anything considered unfriendly with controlled munitions and fuel-air bombs or something (anything non-nuclear), then settle in with a policing force.
But the politicians and idiots running the country are too afraid of ruining reputability and losing political influence with the use of weapons of that scale. Then again, why the hell do we even develop weapons like the MOAB if we aren't even going to use them?
(I'm sure there's more to it, but I'm not exactly in a position to make any calls, so I'll just leave this out there as a sort of rant.)
Who is Jack Bower? I'm sorry but I can't see all your awesome glorious American TV shows (I'm going out on a limb here and assuming it's a TVshow you're talking about) here on the other side of the atlantic ocean, so I really don't know who you're talking about.
That's what almighty Google is for...
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Most world leaders are afraid of hurting the feelings of any extremist religion.
If you ask me, we hurt a lot more than their feelings .
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What we do is blame the country in question for not censoring the person/newspaper
So when Afghanistan was taken over by the regime we said "You suck, what the hell dude" ? Tell me what you're basing that off of.
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instead of supporting the terrorists and saying that it's wrong to offend people the leader would call the extremist leaders on the phone and tell them something along the lines of <<REMOVED>>. This would teach them that they can't mess with todays nuclear superpowers.
So if I called you up on the phone today and demanded that you couldn't go potty from now on, and if you did I would nuke you, you would listen?
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A couple of small nukes, blowing up well selected regions of the torabora mountains..?
Yes, I'm quite sure they have very sophisticated infrastructure up there, including mud huts and caves, just to name a few.
Well, he was trying to insult me and because I didn't know what he was talking about the insult failed. And therefore I informed him about my ignorance of American television in order for him to be able to make a better attampt
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If you ask me, we hurt a lot more than their feelings
What, besides their feelings, did the Danish cartoons actually hurt then?
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So when Afghanistan was taken over by the regime then we said "You suck, what the hell dude" ? Tell me what you're basing that off of.
Just an impression I got from watching the news everyday. Didin't claim it was a fact or that everyone does it.
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So if I called you up on the phone today and demanded that you couldn't go potty from now on, and if you did I would nuke you, you would listen?
I sure as hell would think twice about going though. And when I decide to test my luck and go anyway at least the neighbour next door sees what happens when your warnings are ignored.
This is however quite an unfair comparison you're making here. I need to go potty or I'll *BLEEP* my pants, terrorists will surely not *BLEEP* their pants just for avoiding blowing themselves up..
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Yes, I'm quite sure they have very sophisticated infrastructure up there, including mud huts and caves, just to name a few.
What, besides their feelings, did the Danish cartoons actually hurt then?
I was thinking more like bullet holes. And being turned into mist by a 2k pound bomb.
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This is however quite an unfair comparison you're making here. I need to go potty or I'll *BLEEP* my pants, terrorists will surely not *BLEEP* their pants just for avoiding blowing themselves up..
But terrorists will not stop at their task until every American or anybody else who is opposed to them is dead. I think that's a bit more fair.
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Yes, I'm quite sure they have very sophisticated infrastructure up there, including mud huts and caves, just to name a few.
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I was being sarcastic. The fact is there isn't much to blow up with nukes besides rocks if you aim it at mountains. Maybe you'll get lucky and kill a few dozen, but why would you waste billions of dollars making all those bombs?
war cannot get rid of terrorism. people need to come together no matter what religion, price of peace not freedom, or race. when people die hating another for no reason, they will be judged by a far greater force than missiles and guns.
Radiation, ecological and terrain damage aside genocide is a punishable crime even in war. You can't just kill people because you disagree with them or in this case because they are agressive towards you. This holy war is fought by extremists who take the teachings of their own people too far. It happened in a different form with the Christians during the Crusades, but nonetheless it happened. The true way to defeat such a regime of unjust acition and ill-conceived action is knowledge; lift the veil of ignorance and work towards understanding.
Spoken like a true gentleman. Also, we must keep terrorism in perspective. Over the past 35 years, since the 1972 Olympics, about 45,000 people have been killed worldwide by so-called terrorism. Most of these have been in India. Cancer, in the U.S. alone kills more than twice that many people each year. The money spent by the U.S. Government in the name of fighting terrorism is like spending a million dollars to have a hangnail cut off. A complete waste of resources for so small a problem. Better and more just economic foreign policies would eliminate terrorism for 1/10 the cost. And instead of having enemies in the Middle East, we would likely have loyal trading partners and allies. I think some Americans just have to have someone to hate.
Most world leaders are afraid of hurting the feelings of any extremist religion.
Because of 9/11.
Have you ever had a dog? Do you know the differance between a dog which you let do whatever it want and a dog which you teach that you're the #1 strongest alpha dominant leader?
The dog which you don't disipline will disrespect you and it'll think it's the boss in the house while the dog you dicipline will respect you.
Now, if a countryindividual person today insults.. Islam, for example, the extremists of that religion will become furious and there will be protests etc etc you know the proceedure.
It's at this point I think we go the wrong way; What we do is blame the country in question for not censoring the person/newspaper that posted the incredibly humorousoffensive cartoons. We give THEM critique when...
What we should do is:
1. "grow a couple" and 2. instead of supporting the terrorists and saying that it's wrong to offend people the leader would call the extremist leaders on the phone and tell them something along the lines of <<REMOVED>>. This would teach them that they can't mess with todays nuclear superpowers. And of they mess with them, boom! instantly. MuHaha let's see you bi*ch now!
Or maybe thats the solution? Nukes instantly?
A couple of small nukes, blowing up well selected regions of the torabora mountains..? please note that this is not a anti-islam post I do not think more or less about any religion in the world.
Notice from rvalkass:
Please watch your language. A lot of minors use this forum, so its best if you try and keep to clean language.
How about if WE stopped mistreating them, stealing from them, lying on them, trying to control them, depriving them of their own natural resources, and things of that nature. Suppose we really learned to live and let live. Suppose we became the nobles we profess to be instead of violent animal-minded laggards whose only strength is in a willingness and ability to kill people in order to get our way. What about that? Nukes in the face of a real and unjustified threat may be a deterrent, but when we are 90% wrong.... God is watching. No matter what we call Him. He sees through our ruses and lies. Wake up young man, and be a man. Live and let live. It actually works.
Terrorists really don't have any justification in doing what they do. The way forward is not to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. That's just making it go backwards.
If you don't agree with what a country is doing, then write them a letter telling them that. Tell them how they should improve it and let them see what they think. Resorting to terrorism doesnt open people's ideas to corruption and problems, but makes them close their eyes and ignore what you think.
Terrorism is powered by the everyday media. They will put on the news the latest terrorist attack and oif course, show suspects. As always, muslim people. We see this and without realising we are, start hating muslim people. You will treat them differently just because of their faith. Now that you are discrimating against innocent muslim people this, of course, makes them angry. If you were were constantly suspected to be a terrorist, wouldn't you get abit angry?
True, our media is the biggest reason, only due to the fact they only choose to tell one side of the story. I can remember there was a terrorist action on the Washington bridge, they arrested some Isreali people and removed it from the media right after that. But if it were muslims we would hear it every hour of the day.
I would be furious if I were muslim and saw these things happen.
QUOTE(Forbez @ Oct 14 2007, 10:23 AM)
The terrorist recruiters use this and with their own make, make them join their terrorist group. I'm not saying ALL muslims do this, but this is a form of recruitment the terroist group use.
In addition, I would like to note that the American government sponsored such training camps, in fact, they made the Taliban powerfull enough to pull off 9/11
QUOTE(Forbez @ Oct 14 2007, 10:23 AM)
Also america reley on those parts of the countries for supplies in oil and food, would be a HUGE cost to fire a nuke as well. Too many disadvantages and not enouh advantages.
So true, if they really were to 'save the world', they would have acted towards North Korea instead of Iraq. But because there isn't much to gain from invading Korea, they refuse to do so.
Now they are seeking trouble with Turkey as well, a European country... Somewhere I hope Europe will stand up against the most powerfull government, if it was only to balance the power in the world. (in politics I mean, not war, that would be the end lol)
Terrorism is powered by the everyday media. They will put on the news the latest terrorist attack and oif course, show suspects. As always, muslim people. We see this and without realising we are, start hating muslim people. You will treat them differently just because of their faith. Now that you are discrimating against innocent muslim people this, of course, makes them angry. If you were were constantly suspected to be a terrorist, wouldn't you get abit angry?
The terrorist recruiters use this and with their own make, make them join their terrorist group. I'm not saying ALL muslims do this, but this is a form of recruitment the terroist group use.
To stop terrorism, stop hating them.
No country can nuke another, without the back-up of the UN, if they do that is all out war on that country. I strongly doubt america, infact any country could deal with that.
Also america reley on those parts of the countries for supplies in oil and food, would be a HUGE cost to fire a nuke as well. Too many disadvantages and not enouh advantages.
Nukes instantly?
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