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Is Homosexuality Right Or Wrong? - your views

ashiezai
i do think that homosexuality is nothing wrong ... they are no commiting a crime or anything that will hurt others .. it's just that they are borned that way ... as long as they do not cause any trouble to the society .. i do not see any reason for banning them ...

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Saint_Michael
me personally it doesn't matter what you are, its what inside that counts, but the fact that it has been a big issue since who knows when, tells us that people have nothing else better to do with thier life except to instigate problems and then throw feul in the fire by making it worse.

it may be wrong to some people it maybe right to other but guess what you have deal with it until the day you die some make good use of it and talk to people that are gay bi straight and you will see that they are agood person.


i do have a funny joke though but since i will be the good person i will not post it.

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rvovk
Hmm, is being a live a crime?? Or is making love or to love somebody a crime?? I guess no. So what do you think (author of this topic) if homosexual person asks you or tell that your heterosexual life is wrong. There is no wrong, there only IS. Like I can't resist to be in love with women, homosexual people can't resist to love person of same gender. It is simple as it IS.
Kinda hate question like this, cause this kind of things were "actual" few decades before our time. Everyone has right to live and love somebody.

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icemarle
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So you'"re saying that only those who'se bodies are "designed" for each other can be to together, that the rest is wrong. Well, how about the sizes of parts of the human body, they are not always compatible. Or the creation of new breeds of cats or dogs. That's having breeds reporduce with another breed. Yes, a cat and dog can not have babies, but the CAN fall in love. And homosexuality has very little to do with the longing to have babies (yes, it does happen), it has to do with falling in love.


OK, let me explain. It's wrong in the sense that we weren't made that way in the first place. For me it's only wrong for the BODY part. That's all I'm saying. As for that affection part. I'm not saying it's wrong. So, OK, I can't really define things that well. But anyway, that's what I think. huh.gif

 

 

 


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Peaktao
QUOTE(wakelim @ Jul 21 2005, 09:21 AM)
I wondered what people feel about this? I personally believe that it's wrong and wouldn't mind chatting to others who believe otherwise to see what they think.
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I think there is nothing wrong with homosexual....and I don't mind gay people.
Has the cause of being homosexual been proved? If it's because of people's genes and something which that person definitely has got no control, then you shouldn't blame him/her. In other words, if they cannot choose whether they like someone of the same sex or of the different one, then you cannot blame them.

Of course, if can be argued that even if they feel that deep down inside they like people of the same sex, but they don't have to express it. In other words, some people reasonably argue that homosexual should just lead normal life as if they are normal guy or girl. But why should they pretend? They have the right to express and be themselves as long as it doesn't harm other people, don't they? rolleyes.gif

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Joshua
Umm... I say it's just because we are all slaves to our lusts and sins. You could also say a murderer can't help being one, he just is. Even if he is able to physically refrain from murdering someone in his mind he's already committed the crime and thus is guilty. Even if you don't commit adultery/premarital sex with someone in your mind you've most likely already done it, making you guilty.

Until you're saved and given a new mind, a new heart, and a new Spirit you are not freed from the bondage of sin so that you are free instead to serve God.

So I suppose you can make that argument for anyone other then a Christian. And of course until that heart transaction occurs whereby you get in a right relationship with God through Jesus Christ's finished work on the cross you are not freed from that sin bondage, nor do you have eternal life. A person living rebelliously in known sin is almost certainly not a Christian is what I am saying. And the Bible makes it abundantly clear that homosexuality like hating others, adultery, lying (whether they're little and white or whatever their characteristics), stealing, coveting (wanting what other people have), etc... is a sin. Just check the first chapter of Romans if you don't believe me.

God views sodomy pretty seriously... where do you think the word comes from? Sodom and Gomorrah... Before the angels pulled Lot and his family out of the city before it got burned up, a bunch of homosexuals wanted to rape the angels who they thought were men... It's right there in Genesis 19 btw.

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canpolitics
QUOTE(jzyehoshua @ Aug 11 2005, 12:44 PM)
Umm...  I say it's just because we are all slaves to our lusts and sins.  You could also say a murderer can't help being one, he just is.  Even if he is able to physically refrain from murdering someone in his mind he's already committed the crime and thus is guilty.  Even if you don't commit adultery/premarital sex with someone in your mind you've most likely already done it, making you guilty. 

Until you're saved and given a new mind, a new heart, and a new Spirit you are not freed from the bondage of sin so that you are free instead to serve God.

So I suppose you can make that argument for anyone other then a Christian.  And of course until that heart transaction occurs whereby you get in a right relationship with God through Jesus Christ's finished work on the cross you are not freed from that sin bondage, nor do you have eternal life.  A person living rebelliously in known sin is almost certainly not a Christian is what I am saying.  And the Bible makes it abundantly clear that homosexuality like hating others, adultery, lying (whether they're little and white or whatever their characteristics), stealing, coveting (wanting what other people have), etc...  is a sin.  Just check the first chapter of Romans if you don't believe me.
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I am going to have to call you on that one... while Romans Chapter 1 does condemn fornicators, it does not single out homosexuality in any way, in other words homosexual sex is no worse than heterosexual sex in the eyes of god. Of course Romans Chapter one calls pretty much everything a sin, even ignorance is a sin according to Romans 1:31.

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God views sodomy pretty seriously...  where do you think the word comes from?  Sodom and Gomorrah...  Before the angels pulled Lot and his family out of the city before it got burned up, a bunch of homosexuals wanted to rape the angels who they thought were men...  It's right there in Genesis 19 btw.



Actually Genesis chapter 19 never really meantions why Sodam was destroyed specifically, it could be that the angels were angry that this mob did not respect thier host's (Lot) hospitality. Actually it doesn't even say the men of Sodam were attempting to rape the guests of Lot, just that they want to "know them", and in fact Lot offers them two of his virgin daughters as bait to keep them away from his guests. Not to mention Lot sins afterwards by having sex with his two surviving daughters after the fall of Sodam and Gomorrah.

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biscuitrat
The Bible is full of such things, but why look at it from a religious aspect when you can see it from a social aspect? To love within your gender is not such a bad thing to a lot of people, myself included. To walk up to a homosexual and say "Your love is a sin - you guys shouldn't be together because the Bible vaguely mentions that it's a horrible act." is a terrible thing to do. Some of my best friends are homosexuals and they're incredibly sweet.

A relationship does not always mean lust and sex - it can mean companionship and if it's a fact of science that you cannot control whom you will love, who are we to stop them? Personally, I think a lot of people, orthodox Christians in politics, mainly, are taking this way too seriously. I approve of it right along with selective abortion, and stem cell research.

Call me liberal, but our nation was founded on certain liberties. We're hypocrites if we deny people the right to love whom they will and marry whom they will. If I were homosexual, I would detest being forced out of a church on my wedding day (although I probably wouldn't get married in a church anyways). Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and look at the world then. You might be surprised.

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Florisjuh
I dont think there is anything rong about homosexuality. It might not be the way nature wanted humans to live, but does it make a real big difference in your daily life? I mean, would you care if you would know some people on this world are different if its about sexual attraction and that stuff? I aint religious but I think homosexuality is just a twist of nature... Not some sort of disease. When you have it you have it, it might be just as out of control as a girl loving a boy and vica versa.

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Joshua
QUOTE(canpolitics @ Aug 11 2005, 01:32 PM)
I am going to have to call you on that one... while Romans Chapter 1 does condemn fornicators, it does not single out homosexuality in any way, in other words homosexual sex is no worse than heterosexual sex in the eyes of god. Of course Romans Chapter one calls pretty much everything a sin, even ignorance is a sin according to Romans 1:31.
Actually Genesis chapter 19 never really meantions why Sodam was destroyed specifically, it could be that the angels were angry that this mob did not respect thier host's (Lot) hospitality. Actually it doesn't even say the men of Sodam were attempting to rape the guests of Lot, just that they want to "know them", and in fact Lot offers them two of his virgin daughters as bait to keep them away from his guests. Not to mention Lot sins afterwards by having sex with his two surviving daughters after the fall of Sodam and Gomorrah.
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Doesn't single out homosexuality in any way?!?!? blink.gif

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Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


Sounds like a pretty clearcut condemnation of homosexuality if you ask me. Romans 1:31 says being without understanding is a trait of those whom God has given over to a reprobate mind, it does NOT say it's a sin:

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Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


As for why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, it is even spoken of their homosexuality here:

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

All through the OT and even in the NT that phrase of someone "knowing" someone else refers to sexual intercourse. (i.e. Ge. 4:1, Ge. 4:17, Ge. 4:25, Jg. 11:39, Jg.19:25, 1 Sa. 1:19, 1 Ki. 1:4, Mt. 1:25)

Lot naturally was horrified by what they wanted to do so much even that he did end up offering his daughters instead. Also, if you'd read Genesis 19:33 you would know that Lot didn't participate willingly, his daughters had to get him so drunk he didn't even know they were in the room for them to be able to do it.



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I dont think there is anything rong about homosexuality. It might not be the way nature wanted humans to live, but does it make a real big difference in your daily life? I mean, would you care if you would know some people on this world are different if its about sexual attraction and that stuff? I aint religious but I think homosexuality is just a twist of nature... Not some sort of disease. When you have it you have it, it might be just as out of control as a girl loving a boy and vica versa.


While not all sin may affect anyone other then the sinners personally, it is still sinning against God. And sin is a disease. Christ came not only to forgive us of our sins but to make us new people that would turn from their sins and thus He will destroy the works of the devil, including sin (1 John 3:8).

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